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Postby benrymnd » Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:08 pm

Does anyone have access to the ww1 records, I am trying to trace my grandfather Joseph Bennett b Warrington 1877 he was in the Royal Irish Fusiliers there is a number on his medals 16576 I want to know which battalion he was in , Thankyou in advance
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Postby Jimmy » Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:06 pm

Joseph Bennett.
Regiment or Corps: Princess Victoria's (Royal Irish Fusiliers).
Regimental Number: 16576.

Joseph Bennett.
Military Year: 1914-1920.
Rank: Private.
Company: WO 329.
Regiment or Corps: Royal Irish Fusiliers (Princess Victoria´s).
Regiment Number: 16576.
Medal Awarded: British War Medal and Victory Medal.
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Postby Rob » Thu Nov 26, 2020 3:59 pm

Jimmy can you look up my grandfather Frank Williams b.1896 Blackheath,Staffs ? He served in the Armed Forces and theres a photograph of him in the Gallery on this Forum . Beardie told me a couple of years ago that the buttons on his uniform were ordinary buttons which was common practice during WW1 due to lack of regimental ones. I haven't as yet found his military records and i have no idea which regiment he was in.
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Postby Jimmy » Thu Nov 26, 2020 4:14 pm

Did he have a middle name.?
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Postby Rob » Thu Nov 26, 2020 5:48 pm

No.
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Postby gardener » Thu Nov 26, 2020 6:26 pm

Jimmy wrote:Joseph Bennett.
Regiment or Corps: Princess Victoria's (Royal Irish Fusiliers).
Regimental Number: 16576.

Joseph Bennett.
Military Year: 1914-1920.
Rank: Private.
Company: WO 329.
Regiment or Corps: Royal Irish Fusiliers (Princess Victoria´s).
Regiment Number: 16576.
Medal Awarded: British War Medal and Victory Medal.


And in the column headed “In sequence Units and Corps previously served with by each individual and Regtl. Nos. therein; the highest rank, whether substantive, acting or temporary, recorded as having been held for any period in a theatre of War, unless reverted for misconduct, being shown against the name of the regiment or Corps which is to be inscribed on the medal.” it lists:
8 R. Ir. Fus. 16576 Pte; 7/8 R. Ir. Fus. 16576; 1 R. Ir. Fus. 16576.

So I take it that he began in the first battalion and then was transferred. Something here https://www.nam.ac.uk/explore/royal-iri ... -victorias :

"First World War
1st Battalion was back in Britain well before the outbreak of war. It deployed to the Western Front in August 1914, fighting at Mons and Le Cateau that year. It remained in France and Flanders until the Armistice in 1918.

2nd Battalion moved from India to join 1st Battalion on the Western Front in December 1914. It was then sent to Salonika in November 1915 and Palestine in October 1917, before being disbanded in 1919.

The 3rd (Reserve) Battalion fought against the 1916 Easter Rising in Dublin. The regiment also raised six New Army battalions during the conflict, including 5th and 6th (Service) Battalions, which landed at Gallipoli in 1915."
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Postby gardener » Thu Nov 26, 2020 6:29 pm

"The present is the key to the past" - Charles Lyell
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Postby Jimmy » Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:11 am

Rob wrote:Jimmy can you look up my grandfather Frank Williams b.1896 Blackheath,Staffs ? He served in the Armed Forces and theres a photograph of him in the Gallery on this Forum . Beardie told me a couple of years ago that the buttons on his uniform were ordinary buttons which was common practice during WW1 due to lack of regimental ones. I haven't as yet found his military records and i have no idea which regiment he was in.


I cant see anyone that fits Rob.
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Postby Rob » Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:21 pm

Thanks anyway Jimmy.Its a mystery to me. I should have asked him but its too late now.
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Re: ww1 records

Postby Northern Lass » Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:29 am

moving to military section
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Postby mallosa » Tue Jan 26, 2021 6:56 am

Rob wrote:Jimmy can you look up my grandfather Frank Williams b.1896 Blackheath,Staffs ? He served in the Armed Forces and theres a photograph of him in the Gallery on this Forum . Beardie told me a couple of years ago that the buttons on his uniform were ordinary buttons which was common practice during WW1 due to lack of regimental ones. I haven't as yet found his military records and i have no idea which regiment he was in.


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Postby Jimmy » Tue Jan 26, 2021 12:17 pm

It dosn't help.
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Re: ww1 records

Postby gardener » Thu Jan 28, 2021 1:33 pm

On this old thread viewtopic.php?f=68&t=19246&p=192966&hilit=+frank+williams+#p192966 Adrian said that he was confident Frank was in the Training Reserve. Did anyone follow up on that? Could it mean that he was moved into a non-local regiment?

Has this entry been checked? (needs top-notch access to Ancestry)


Name: Frank Williams
Record Type: Card
Discharge Date: 22 Nov 1917
Service Number: Tr3/6447
Corps, Regiment or Unit: 49th. Training Reserve
Title: WWI Pension Record Cards and Ledgers
Description: Other Ranks Survived
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Postby Jimmy » Thu Jan 28, 2021 2:00 pm

Not the one,

Ancestry,
I don't have access to fold 3.

Frank Williams.
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1889
Age: 26.
Document Year: 1915.
Residence Place: 2 Wood St, Brurfield, Hopkinson of Sons Birkby Nr Burnley, Lancs.
Regimental Number: 6447.
Form Title: Short Service Attestation.

Name Relation to Soldier
Frank Williams Self (Head).
Joseph Williams Father.
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