Infectious diseases hospital in Dudley

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Infectious diseases hospital in Dudley

Postby blackcountrybiker » Sun Jun 24, 2012 10:59 am

A question for all you lovely Black Country connectors????

Does anybody know where the Infectious Diseases Hospital was in Dudley? My great grandparents and grand aunt all died there in 1901 and so far my enquiries have been inconclusive. There are three possibilities as far as I can tell... There was an Infectious Diseases Hospital on Stallings Lane in Kingswinford, but that wasn't founded until 1904. The Dudley Union Workhouse had an infectious disease ward which was separate from the main block. The Workhouse was situated on Burton Road. The workhouse buildings eventually became the Burton Road Hospital and the IF ward became the Rosemary Ednam Maternity Hospital (which is where I was born!!). The third possible comes from a mention in another file in the Dudley Archives. In the records for Tanfields, Solicitors, there are some 1917 building plans regarding... "land on Aston Road, Dudley at the rear of Infectious Diseases Hospital".... never heard of that one before :?: I also believe there were Infectious disease hospitals in Tipton too, but the death certificate for Maggie Taylor and Esther Taylor definitely say "Infectious Diseases Hospital, Dudley" for place of death.

Dudley Archives have been doing some research for me but they have drawn a blank and haven't been able to add anything to the knowledge I already have. I have also been told that was is a letter regarding isolation hospitals' printed in The Blackcountryman, vol.34, no.3, Summer 2001... anybody have a copy?
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Re: Infectious diseases hospital in Dudley

Postby Northern Lass » Sun Jun 24, 2012 11:48 am

What about Guest Hospital oppo the Black Country museum?

surprised the archives don't know where it was
anyone else know?
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Re: Infectious diseases hospital in Dudley

Postby blackcountrybiker » Sun Jun 24, 2012 11:51 am

Guest hospital definitely had some TB patients, there are some surviving photos of them.
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Re: Infectious diseases hospital in Dudley

Postby MarkCDodd » Sun Jun 24, 2012 12:08 pm

These are all the Staffordshire hospitals in the 1901 census. I have highlighted the most likely infectious disease hospital for Dudley.

Hospital Endon & Stanley Leek Piece 2619
Hospital Tipton Dudley Piece 2735
Hospital Kingston Hill Hopton & Coton Stafford Piece 2569
Hospital Road Hammerwich Lichfield Piece 2656
Hospital Street Tamworth Tamworth Piece 2649
Hospital Street Wolverhampton Wolverhampton Piece 2682
Hospital Street Bilston Wolverhampton Piece 2691
Hospital Street Walsall Walsall Piece 2698
Hospital Street Walsall Walsall Piece 2699
Hospital Street Cottage Hospital Tamworth Tamworth Piece 2649
Hospital The Green Darlaston Walsall Piece 2693
Asylum Hospital Basford, Cheddleton Cheadle Piece 2629
Belgrave Road Longton Cottage Hospital Longton Stoke upon Trent Piece 2617
Borough Tavern Hospital Outwoods Burton upon Trent Piece 2641
Cemetery Lane Infections Hospital West Bromwich West Bromwich Piece 2723
Corporation Isolation Hospital Wednesbury West Bromwich Piece 2728
Coton Hill Registered Lunatic Hospital Hopton & Coton Stafford Piece 2569
Cottage Hospital Littleworth, Cannock Cannock Piece 2664
Cottage Hospital Tever Etwall Burton upon Trent Piece 2637
District Hospital West Bromwich West Bromwich Piece 2720
District Hospital Edward Street West Bromwich West Bromwich Piece 2720
Etwall Hospital Porters Lodge Etwall Burton upon Trent Piece 2637
Fever Hospital Perry Barr West Bromwich Piece 2714
Fever Hospitall Leek Leek Piece 2623
Guest Hospital Dudley Dudley Piece 2749
Guest Hospital Lodge Dudley Dudley Piece 2745
Hanley, Stoke And Fenton Joint Hospital, Bucknall Stoke Rural Stoke upon Trent Piece 2603
Haywood Hospital Burslem Wolstanton Piece 2596
Haywood Hospital Moorland Road Burslem Wolstanton Piece 2596
Infactions Disease Hospital Moseley Village, Heathtown Wolverhampton Piece 2688
Infection Hospital Church Gresley Burton upon Trent Piece 2638
Isolation Hospital Tillington Stafford Piece 2569
Isolation Hospital Kings Bromley Lichfield Piece 2657
Isolation Hospital Cannock Cannock Piece 2662
Isolation Hospital Orton, Wombourne Wolverhampton Piece 2670
Isolation Hospital Dudley Road Rowley Regis Dudley Piece 2730
Leek Memorial Cottage Hospital Leek Leek Piece 2622
Longton Cottage Hospital Longton Stoke upon Trent Piece 2617
Main Road Stone Joint Hospital Board Infectious Diseases Hispital Yarnfield, Swynnerton Stone Piece 2576
Main Road Stone Joint Hospital Board Infectious Diseases Hospital Yarnfield, Swynnerton Stone Piece 2576
Meection Hospital New Berry Lane Oldbury West Bromwich Piece 2715
Old Cott Hospital Longton Stoke upon Trent Piece 2615
Porters Lodge Hospital Walsall Walsall Piece 2701
Rugeley District Hospital Brereton Road Rugeley Lichfield Piece 2659
Short Lane, Cottage Hospital Barton-under-Needwood Burton upon Trent Piece 2641
Spidemic Hospital Sneyd Lane Walsall Walsall Piece 2697
St Johns Hospital Lichfield St Michael Lichfield Piece 2654
St Marks Road Womans Hospital Wolverhampton Wolverhampton Piece 2673
St Mary Hospital For Incresble Cases Stone Stone Piece 2574
St Marys Hospital Stone Stone Piece 2574
Tamworth Solation Hospital Bolehall & Glascote Tamworth Piece 2652
The Hospital Yoxall Lichfield Piece 2657
The Hospital Hammerwich Cottage Hammerwich Lichfield Piece 2656
Tower Hospital Meadow Style Biddulph Leek Piece 2621
Walsall And District Hospital Walsall Walsall Piece 2701
Wolverhampton Borough Hospital Wolverhampton Wolverhampton Piece 2682
Wolverhampton South Staffordshire General Hospital, Cleveland Road Wolverhampton Wolverhampton Piece 2683
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Re: Infectious diseases hospital in Dudley

Postby MarkCDodd » Sun Jun 24, 2012 12:13 pm

These are the people living in the hospital in 1901.

1901 census transcription details for: Isolation Hospital, Near Dudley Road, Rowley Regis

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 2730
Folio: 60
Page: 27
Reg. District: Dudley
Sub District: Rowley Regis
Parish: Rowley Regis
Enum. District: 3
Ecclesiastical District: St Michael
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Isolation Hospital, Near Dudley Road, Rowley Regis
County: Staffordshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
THOMAS, Mary Ann Head Widow F 45 1856 Matron To Isolation Hospital Tividale, Staffordshire
THOMAS, Mary Ann Daughter Single F 23 1878 Board School Teacher Tividale, Staffordshire
WALFORD, Henry Thos Patient In Hospital Married M 26 1875 Coal Miner (Hewer) Dudley, Worcestershire
MALLEN, Susan Servant Single F 47 1854 Wards Maid Cradley Hth, Staffordshire
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Re: Infectious diseases hospital in Dudley

Postby MarkCDodd » Sun Jun 24, 2012 12:16 pm

These are the neighbours, might be usefull to find the actual address....but Maud had married and they moved by 1911.

1901 census transcription details for: California Oakham, Rowley Regis
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 2730
Folio: 60
Page: 27
Reg. District: Dudley
Sub District: Rowley Regis
Parish: Rowley Regis
Enum. District: 3
Ecclesiastical District: St Michael
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: California Oakham, Rowley Regis
County: Staffordshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
PEARSON, Jane Head Single F 38 1863 Milk Seller Blind From Childhood Dudley, Worcestershire
PEARSON, Maud Sister Single F 10 1891 Dudley, Worcestershire
BRIGHTMAN, George Nephew Single M 8 1893 Dudley, Worcestershire
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Re: Infectious diseases hospital in Dudley

Postby blackcountrybiker » Sun Jun 24, 2012 12:21 pm

Thanks Mark... that adds another possible to the list. :? Netherton and Dudley were actually both in Worcestershire at the time, although this hospital and the Burton road Workhouse were in Staffordshire! Great grandma Esther and her daughter Maggie were only in for a few days during February 1901.
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Re: Infectious diseases hospital in Dudley

Postby MarkCDodd » Sun Jun 24, 2012 12:27 pm

On the 1911 census the Matron is still living their but there is no address on the cover of the census return.

1911 census transcription details for: Isolation Hospital

National Archive Reference:

RG14PN17351 RG78PN1064 RD372 SD1 ED2 SN140
Reg. District: Dudley
Sub District: Rowley Regis
Parish: Rowley Regis
Enum. District: 2
Address: Tividale Tipton
County: Staffordshire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
THOMAS, Mary Ann Matron Widow F 55 1856 Hospital Matron Staffordshire Rowley Regis
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Re: Infectious diseases hospital in Dudley

Postby Northern Lass » Sun Jun 24, 2012 12:47 pm

This was on Rootschat
http://www.ponies.me.uk/maps/osmap.html ... 6611136366

so possibly oppo tividale football club
allotments where once was a hospital

you can see hospital on old map
Dudley road a4123 runs between

and Oakham is Tividale there is a California Rd in Tividale
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Re: Infectious diseases hospital in Dudley

Postby Antie Em » Sun Jun 24, 2012 3:05 pm

Might be worth trying Sandwell Archives :

http://www.sandwell.gov.uk/info/200111/ ... d_archives
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Re: Infectious diseases hospital in Dudley

Postby Antie Em » Sun Jun 24, 2012 3:15 pm

There is an Aston Road in Tividale, at the bottom of California Road and just above Birch Crescent.
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Re: Infectious diseases hospital in Dudley

Postby Antie Em » Sun Jun 24, 2012 3:43 pm

From the Description of the 1911 Census for the area :

"Along the middle of Dudley Road, Tividale, from the Parish Boundary to the West, near St Michael’s Church into its junction with Gipsy Lane, (or Parkes Lane), thence along the middle of Gipsy Lane or Parkes Lane, to its junction with the Ecclesiatical Boundary of St Michael at Darby’s Hill, thence along the Ecclesiastical boundary of St Michael to its junction with the Parish Boundary on the West at Oakham, thence along the Parish boundary to the starting point

Dudley Road, from South side to Parish boundary near St Michael’s Church to Gipsy or Parkes Lane

Gipsy or Parkes Lane Nos 4 and 5. The City, Coxes Farm and two cottages adjoining. Darbys Hill 1 – 9

Oakham 1 – 5, including a house in Oakham Colliery. Four houses in California, Back of Oakham Colliery. The Hollies

Upper Oakham Farm. House at the back of Council School. Tividale Hall and houses adjoining.

Sandwell Archives might have photos

Isolation Hospital. Hill Road. The Hainge Colliery. House in Darby’s Hill Quarry.

Boats on Canal from Canal Bridge in Dudley Road, near Seven Stars Inn to Canal Bridge at bottom of Gipsy Lane or Parkes Lane"

Hill Road is still there and is on the opposite side of the New Birmingham Road. There is a bridge going over the New Birmingham Road which was used to transport coal from the Oakham Colliery. It's now a footbridge going to the Tividale School.

Tividale Hall is the name also used for the housing estate built after the war on California Road.

The City became City Road, running across the Birmingham New Road from Tividale (by the school) up to Oakham.
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Re: Infectious diseases hospital in Dudley

Postby Antie Em » Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:24 pm

In 1901 Mary Ann Thomas is the Matron and the Isolation Hospital is recorded in Tividale, Rowley Regis, Parliamentary Division of Kingswinford

Address is California, Oakham, near Dudley Road.

On Ancestry here : http://search.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/vie ... sid=&gskw=
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Re: Infectious diseases hospital in Dudley

Postby Antie Em » Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:33 pm

In 1891 Mary Ann Thomas is a nurse at the Institition Hospital, Dudley Road, Tividale, Rowley Regis

My guess it was on the gounds of what is now Tividale Park, which lies between the Dudley Road and the New Birmingham Road.

On Ancestry here : http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?htx= ... d=16704433

Tividale Hall is recorded a few doors away and very close to the Wagon and Horses pub, which was at the bottom of Hill Road.

Used to take me just a few minutes to walk from my grandparents house in Hill Road to the Tividale Park and a few minutes in the opposite direction to get to Burnt Tree.
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Re: Infectious diseases hospital in Dudley

Postby blackcountrybiker » Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:49 pm

Thanks for this Auntie M , the plans in the Dudley Archives must relate to Aston Road, Tividale. I've been searching the maps of Aston Road in Dudley looking for clues about the hospital. This now makes far more sense... like I said earlier, the Stallings Lane Isolation hospital didn't open until 1904 and there was only an Isolation unit at the Workhouse... This unit at Tividale looks a far more likely bet to be the hospital I'm searching for. Thanks Auntie M and MarkCDodd, By jove I think you've cracked it :P The knowledge on this forum never fails to impress me.
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