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Slaughter Pit---Buffery Field

PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:00 pm
by linell
Hi this was a local name for one of the Dudley or RR Coal Mines, does anyone know the proper name please?

Cheers from Linell.

Re: Slaughter Pit

PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 7:27 am
by FarSide
I'm not too good on the distance between places..
maybe getting warmer with this tree online that mentions Buffery field.

http://www.creativegraces.net/data/garland.pdf

Extract
he went to Dudley and began to work at the slaughter pit in old Buffery Field


poss Buffery Colliery
http://blackcountryhistory.org/collecti ... mit=Search

cool site too
http://www.newmanlocalhistory.org.uk/?tag=oldbury

Re: Slaughter Pit

PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 10:06 am
by linell
Oh well done Farside, brilliant stuff there, so it looks like Buffery Colliery was known as the Slaughter Pit, thanks a million for your help from Linell.

Re: Slaughter Pit

PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 10:54 am
by gardener


That is a brilliant site! Great to see what must be typed notes making it onto the internet. Do you know when Eliza Orme visited the Black Country? I don't see a date on the notes there (may not have looked carefully enough)?

Re: Slaughter Pit

PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:08 am
by FarSide
Had a read about Eliza, to be honest I had never heard of her, now I have much admiration for her
gosh the places and people see met and in the most horrid of situations, great that they were documented
I read them shaking my head at the living conditions, no wonder they drank explains alot in my tree
reading thru the article I didn't see any dates for her visits tho the typed pages seem to start at page 16
I cruised google, there's a couple of google books that mention her in the blackcountry but I
could only get snippet views. Will have another look tomorrow..

Re: Slaughter Pit

PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:08 am
by gardener
I think it was this one

Royal Commission on Labour and the Employment of Women
(reports by Miss Eliza Orme, Miss Clara E Collet, Miss May E Abraham and
Miss Margaret H Irwin on the Conditions of Work in Various Industries in England, 1893)
http://www.ampltd.co.uk/collections_az/ ... reels.aspx

There was a Mrs Eliza Orme who was into women's rights but died in 1893, perhaps it was her daughter. There is an unmarried daughter Eliza aged 32 in the 1881 census so that would make her the right sort of age and background I think.

Re: Slaughter Pit

PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 1:12 am
by FarSide
From Wiki
Eliza Orme (1848-1937)
Source: Death. The Times Saturday, Jun 26, 1937; Issue 47721;pg. 1; col A
ORME.—On June 22, 1937, at Streatham, Eliza, daughter of the late Charles Orme, in her 89th year.

Trying to tie down the poss date Eliza visited the blackcountry, I think between 1901 & 1905 (Mary Ann Tibbetts age & death of J Russell)

http://www.newmanlocalhistory.org.uk/wp ... -vol13.pdf

In her first visit Eliza speaks to a Miss Mary Ann Tibbets, a woman between 50 & 60. Mary Ann's brother & two nephews work together..
I believe this is Mary Ann
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... tts-Family

1891
45 Tibbetts gardens, Rowley
Joseph Tibbetts 54 - single - Chainmaker
Mary A Tibbetts 47 - sister - single - Chainmaker
Fred Tibbets 9 - nephew
Joseph Chatwin 29 - nephew - Chainmaker
all b Rowley

1901
45 Tibbetts garden, Rowley
Joseph Tibbetts 64 - Chainmaker
Mary A Tibbetts 54 - sister - Chainmaker
Fred Tibbetts 18 - nephew - Chainmaker
all b Cradley Heath


Eliza's report mentions examining 2 maunfacturers -:

Mr J Russell (nail & edge tool manufacturer od Dudley under the name of Swindell & Co)

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations),1861-1941
Joseph Russell, of Churchfield house, Dudley, Worcestershire, died 12 March 1905, Probate London 26 May to Joseph William Russell iron-merchant and James Ernest Russell and George William Walker manufacturers Effects £19781 7s 8d.

The 1881
Joseph's occ is J.P. Edge Tool. Nail And Chain Manuf
son James E Russell

Mr George Green (nail & chain manufacturer of Oldhill)

I believe it's this guy
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... een-Family

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations),1861-1941
George Green, of Norton, Oldswinford, Worcestershire died 22 February 1906
Probate London 10 May to Mary Ann Green, widow and George Harry Green and Charles William Thomas manufacturers Effects £27421 5s 3d


http://www.angelfire.com/trek/stevesgen ... making.htm
BOARD OF ARBITRATION AND CONCILIATION
FOR THE
WROUGHT NAIL TRADE
President- MR BALL
Vice-President- MR SCROXTON
Treasurer-MR RUSSELL (mentioned in Eliza's report)
Referee-W.BASSANO,ESQ., J.P.
Secretary-MR.GEO.GREEN.
RULES, AS ADOPTED AT THE MEETING OF DELEGATES,
Held at the GRAND HOTEL, BIRMINGHAM,
January 5th 1880