peterd wrote:right opened a topic here (me thinks opened a can of worms ha ha ) rather than added to the one in the black country social history
As society altered since corporal punishment at school was abolished.?
where once kids got discplined at school if they wernt getting discplined at home it would teach them what is acceptable and what is not acceptable, now CP is not done at school and some parent dont or not botherd about teaching kids right from wrong that we have such an expolsion in bad social behavour since the end of CP in the late 70s early 80s ?
will it only get worse as now the children who have not had such discipline are parents themselves?
do modern method of discipline work ?
Hi petard, nice to meet you
I think your reference to 'the one in Black Country Social History' is referring to my story about Oldswinford Hospital.
I don't think that corporal punishment did any harm and anyone who was unfortunate enough to receive it, thought twice before performing the crime again.
One such 'crime' was being caught smoking and invariably those same offenders did get caught on a number of occasions.
The punishment administered to persistent offenders got increasingly worse. A first offence was six of the best, administered by hand. A second offence was administered by a slipper. Subsequent beatings graduated from a rounders bat, to finally the cricket bat. Boys had been known to pass out at this final punishment. All these beatings given on the bare buttocks and a set number of strokes, either six, or twelve. We often lay in bed at night listening and counting the number of strokes, when some unfortunate was 'called in', as these were always given at bedtime.
Strangely enough the Master who administered this punishment was one of the most popular teachers in the school, his punishments were usually just and deserved. You may also note that the use of a flat object rather than a cane did not leave the wounds that I described in my other story.
I have to say that it didn't stop people from smoking but it did stop other 'crimes', like 'going out of bounds'.
Personally I only ever got 'the hand' twice. Once for shouting out in class and once for throwing wet papier mache round the art room. I don't think I deserved the first time, as another boy pinched me but the second time I certainly did.
I certainly agree that National Service was a good thing, though it took two years from my life that I could never recover. In fact my life changed completely after demob, as far as my job was concerned.
I don't think it taught me discipline, as I had already been taught that at school but I'm sure that some of today's louts would maybe learn to control their aggression and become decent people.
I have to admit that I did smack my daughters on a couple of occasions, they are both in their fifties now and we still love each other dearly. I am pleased to report that I am very proud of them both but I think their boys do get the odd clout.
Jackienock