I'm the first to agree that our immigration policies are ludicrous, when Indian restaurants are having to employ Bulgarians in their kitchens because our government requires non-EU workers to earn over £30k there has to be something wrong, but why is it that they aren't employing Brits? Why don't British workers want to work hard for £7.20 an hour in a hot kitchen between the hours of 4.00pm and midnight to provide us with inexpensive places to eat?dudleytaylor wrote:I want out , because the change I have seen in Evesham in the last ten years is beyond belief, we no longer see the Indian and Pakistani family's working in the fields ,they are now Polish . There is a street in Evesham now known has Pole Street. A nurse at my doctors has informed me that they (the surgery ) are overwhelmed by the amount of immigrants they now have , three thousand and rising. This is probably just the beginning ,and I am worried that it will get worse.
Why is it that, when we want to find a cleaner, a window cleaner, a gardener there just aren't any Brits prepared to do the work legitimately, OK, they'll take £10 - £15 an hour in cash, do a poor job and regularly fail to turn up, but the legitimate companies, who provide all of the out of work benefits such as sick pay, holiday pay, maternity leave etc, and who pay above minimum wages, can only find immigrants prepared to do the work?
Why is it that our local plant nursery, purveyors to the Royal family for three generations, nearly closed because they couldn't get Brits to work for them, it was only the influx of Polish workers who saved the business?
Why is it that if I go to a local British tradesman such as a plumber or electrician I'm lucky if they're able to come to do work within eight months, and when they do come and I ask them why, given that they're so busy, they don't have trainees working with them they say that they wouldn't want to train anyone because they'll only take their work but if I find a Polish company not only do they arrive within a month, actually work for 8 hours five days a week (rather than 5 - 6 hours, four days a week that their Brit compatriots do) and usually have a lad with them whose learning the business?
And as for their shops, bring them on, the British High Street has been failing for years and to have shops with fresh vegetables, meats, preserves etc. there is a joy.
MrsSRD has many health problems, large numbers of the staff who have looked after her are immigrants, some from Europe, some from further afield. The NHS would collapse without immigrant workers. Farmers, especially in vegetable and fruit production, would go to the wall leaving us with nothing but imported fruit & veg and our landscape looking like the American Prairies.
Our surgery is trying to expand due to the increase in local population, admittedly not too many immigrants, house prices are way too high for their purses, they live in local towns in grotty flats above shops owned by Brit landlords (although we are beginning to see Chinese and Russians buying the properties up), flats that have laid empty for years because no Brit wants to rent them. But the village is expanding with more and more late middle aged, comparatively affluent, middle class people who all want services from Surgeries but there are no young working Brits to provide those services, they won't stay to earn minimum wages doing ordinary jobs.
If we want to have Brits doing all those jobs we have to breed, we need to have a large enough population who are so poor that they will do the horrible jobs for low pay and no prospects simply to survive.
As for class, my grandfathers worked on the railways, one as a porter, one as a clerk, one grandmother was a housewife from a family of bakers who were failing, the other was an upholsterer and seamstress, both my parents were teachers and I have worked in a variety of jobs from messenger, colour mixer in a serviette printing factory, banana packer in a wholesale market stand, band roadie, shop worker, house keeper & au pair and have spent the last 25 years as full time carer of my disabled wife living on state benefits, savings and an accident insurance pay out, what class does that make me? And what has class to do with whether we're In or Out? Aren't there working class people throughout Europe? 
we can get back to serious things like the Football and our family trees 
