*Archived * -SELINA BRITTLE

[sirrom]

Hello Getting frustrated can u help 1881 census SELINA BRITTLE born Sedgley 1832 age 49 green grocer widowed
39 Hacket st ROWLEY REGIS this is the only record that she appears on that I have found.....39 Hacket st could have been a shop because the same census has my GG/father JOB MORRIS and his family living there Im trying to find if SELINA & JOB are related because on the 1841 census there was a Selina MORRIS but again can find any reference...If she is related would be another shoot on my family tree Regards sirrom

[peterd]

tried looking for a selina brettle might be mistranscribed ?

put that 1841 census you have on so we can have a look ?

[dianel]

Hi sirrom,
I think Selena is Job's older sister. The ages are a bit wonky, but it wouldn't be the first time a girl lied about her age

1841 - Sedgley
Thos Morris 30 C. Miner
Mary Morris 30 Added to BC to here
Selena Morris 9
Sarah Morris 5
Comfort Morris 3
Isaiah Morris 1

1851 – Mincing Lane
Thomas Morris Head 37 Coal Miner b. Staffs., Sedgley
Mary Morris Wife 41 b. Staffs., Sedgley
Sarah Morris Daur 16 Nailer b. Staffs., Sedgley
Comfort Morris Daur 14 Nailer b. Staffs., Sedgley
Benjamin Morris Son 8 Scholar b. Staffs., Sedgley
Job Morris 4 b. Staffs., Sedgley
Abel Morris 2 b. Staffs., Sedgley

1861 - Mincing Lane, Rowley Regis
Thomas Morris Head 48 Coal Miner b. Staffs., Coseley
Mary Morris Wife 49 Nail Maker b. Staffs., Gornall
Comfort Morris Daur 23 Nail Maker b. Staffs., Gornall
Benjamin Morris Son 19 Coal Miner b. Staffs., Gornall
Job Morris Son 14 Coal Miner b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Abel Morris Son 12 Coal Miner b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Thomas Morris Son 10 b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Martha Morris Daur 7 Mo b. Staffs., Rowley Regis

1861 – Moor Lane, Rowley Regis
Benjamin Brettell Head 27 Coal Miner b. Staffs., Rowley
Selina Brettell Wife 20 b. Staffs., Sedgley
Benjamin Morris Lodger 29 Coal Miner b. Staffs., Sedgley

1871 – Cockshead Lane, The Hill, Blackheath
Benjamin Brettell Head 35 Miner b. Staffs., Rowley
Slena Brettell Wife 33 Dressmaker b. Staffs., Sedgley

On next page – only 2 doors away in Cockshead Lane, are:
Job Morris Head 25 Miner b. Staffs., Rowley
Margrett Morris Wife 26 Nail Forger b. Warley Wigan
Mary Elizabeth Morris Daur 4 b. Cockshead Lane
Abel Morris Son 1 month b. Cockshead Lane
Mary Morris Mother 60 Nail Forger b. Staffs., Rowley
Thomas Morris Lodger 20 Miner b. Staffs., Rowley


Poss Benjamin in 1851 ...
1851 – Back of Garratt's Lane, Rowley Regis
Nancy Tromans Head W 50 Nailmaker b. Worcs., Halesowen
Mary A Brittle Daur U 20 Nailmaker b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Benjamin Brittle Son U 16 Coal Miner
Josiah Brittle Son U 12 Chainmaker
Maria Cooper Lodger M 23 Chainmaker
Timothy Cooper Son 5
Hannah Cooper Daur 3
Thomas Cooper Son 2
Mary A Brittle Lodger U 18 Nailmaker
Benjamin Brittle Son 2
John Brittle Son 1 Mo

Marriage for Benjamin Brettle? (only person on page):
1853 Jul-Aug-Sep
District:Dudley (To 1912)
County: Staffordshire, Worcestershire

[dianel]

However, the only appropriate marriage that I can find is ...
BENJAMIN BRETTLE
Spouse: SELENA WORTON
Marriage: 15 AUG 1853 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England

Did Selena have a previous marriage to a Whorton??? Maybe this is why I couldn't find her in 1851?

[dianel]

Hmmm ... then there's this:
IGI - Extracted
THOMAS MORRIS
Spouse: MARY WORTON
Marriage: 07 JUN 1836 Sedgley, Stafford, England

So maybe Selena's mum is the Worton/Whorton ?

Have we been here before? I suddenly had a strong Deja Vu sensation.

[dianel]

Yes! These folks are on BC here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tribe/browse?userid=bcconnections&view=0&pid=13981&rand=678241330

And

England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906 about Selena
Name: Selena
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 15 Mar 1832
Christening Place: Sedgley, Staffordshire, England
Mother's Name: Mary Worton

Note: Mother's name only given. I reckon this means either that Mary is an unmarried mum or that Selena's dad has died before her birth - not unlikely as many of the males in this family grouping seem to be coal miners.

I think this connects in the Morrises, by step relationship at least to the Brettells.

[FarSide]

Poss addition to Di's post..
Could be Selena living with Grandparents
1851
42
Old Furnace, Sedgley
Joseph Warton 62 - Furnace Lab
Ann Warton 69
Samuel Warton 23 - Stone Miner
Harriet Warton 24 - daug in law
Selma Warton 19 - Grandaug - Nailmaker ( does look like Selena)
all b Sedgley

Marriages Sep 1853
Worton Silena Dudley 6c 81
Brettle Benjamin Dudley 6c [18]1

Extracted
MARY WORTON
Christening: 13 MAY 1810 Sedgley
Father: JOSEPH WORTON
Mother: ANN

[Northern Lass]

Oooh anyone fancy putting any of this relevant info on Connections?.....please

ps moving this to the BC section too cos that covers this thread

[sirrom]

Hello Many Many thanks DIANEL also FARSIDE an Northern Lass for all your help on this much appreciated believe me it all fits names dates locations will sleep tonite thank you so much my regards to all sirrom

[Northern Lass]

Well I only moved the thread all the credit has to go to those 2 brilliant gene detectives

Well done Di and FS...

rite who is putting this on Connections ...go on you know you want to!

and presume this is now completed
so unless otherwise advised this topic will be archived

[Northern Lass]

Ok struggling to add this to Connections .....could anyone possibly add it to connections same to lose the info

[dianel]

Will make a start with Thomas Morris & Mary Whorton. Will mark on post of census where I am up to as I go.

[Northern Lass]

Thanks so much Di xx

[Northern Lass]

Hi Di wondered if we are ok to archive this and you work from there re adding stuff or would you rather
it be left here where you can mark it where you are up to!
Let me know chuck!

[dianel]

I can work from Archives, NL