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*Archived* -Phillis Chandler 1895-1914

Postby mumbles » Mon Dec 29, 2008 2:21 pm

NL,
I just read your story on couple who walked into Canal on a Foggy nght and picked up the Bugle From 18th of December to note full story.
My interest was raised because my grandfather John Joseph Richard Parsons drowned at exactly same spot at Windmill End in 1902 and my brother fell in at same spot in c.1990 ( survived). I also had two Canal Boat Fires at same spot in c. 1994.I wrote an article called Ghosts of the Canal for Bugle a few years back which detailed my family experiences and a number of other drownings at same locationm.
The one in latest article I did not know about but it adds to the list of strange happenings at this spot.
Miss Phyliss Chandleraged 19 of Bumble Hole and Samuel Crew aged 21 of Church Rd. Netherton and Mary Ann Wells aged 17 of Bumble Hole were people who drowned in fog of X-mas 1914 .
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Re: Who were those people? What was their story?

Postby Northern Lass » Mon Dec 29, 2008 2:29 pm

mumbles wrote:NL,
I just read your story on couple who walked into Canal on a Foggy nght and picked up the Bugle From 18th of December to note full story.
My interest was raised because my grandfather John Joseph Richard Parsons drowned at exactly same spot at Windmill End in 1902 and my brother fell in at same spot in c.1990 ( survived). I also had two Canal Boat Fires at same spot in c. 1994.I wrote an article called Ghosts of the Canal for Bugle a few years back which detailed my family experiences and a number of other drownings at same locationm.
The one in latest article I did not know about but it adds to the list of strange happenings at this spot.
Miss Phyliss Chandleraged 19 of Bumble Hole and Samuel Crew aged 21 of Church Rd. Netherton and Mary Ann Wells aged 17 of Bumble Hole were people who drowned in fog of X-mas 1914 .


Thanks Mumbles well let's run with those tragic individuals i would love to know more about them.
I think they were engaged? Does it detail that in the bugle?

this looks like Phyllis

1895
CHANDLER Phillis Dudley Dudley Register Office DUD/214/186
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Re: Who were those people? What was their story?

Postby mumbles » Mon Dec 29, 2008 3:05 pm

Nl,
THe writer of article is an Ian Crew and has history of Crew family and is willing to share with anyone interested e-mail [email protected]
Parents of Phyliss were Benjamin Chandler and Mary of 199 Bumble Hole Road
Parent of Samuel Crew was Samuel Crew of 94 Church Road Netherton
Parents of Mary Ann Wells were Thomas Wells and Mary Jane Wells of 201 Bumble Hole Road
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Re: Who were those people? What was their story?

Postby Northern Lass » Mon Dec 29, 2008 5:19 pm

Ok well this is going on the tree... does anyone know the exact story? so I can put something in the notes?

can we find this lot on census
bapts
birth regis....
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Re: Who were those people? What was their story?

Postby peterd » Mon Dec 29, 2008 5:37 pm

might be worth putting the story in here with a link to the tree

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Re: Who were those people? What was their story?

Postby mumbles » Mon Dec 29, 2008 6:04 pm

A distressing drowning fatality occurred at Windmill End on Christmas Eve 1914 ,when owing to the fearful fog three young people from Netherton walked into the canal and were drowned. The unfortunate victims were Miss Phyliss Chandler aged 19 of 199, Bumble Hole Road ; her sweetheart Samuel Crew aged 21 of 94 Church Road and Mary Ann Wells aged 17 of 201 Bumble Hole Road.
The girls worked in Birmingham and journeyed to Windmill End Station where they were met by Samuel and took shortest route back to Bumble Hole via the canal.
When recovered the next morning the bodies of Crew and Miss Chandler ( his Sweetheart) were locked in an embracwe asif crew had made a valiant attempt to save her.
The three were buried together with Samuel between the two girls at Netherton Parish Church
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Re: Who were those people? What was their story?

Postby Northern Lass » Mon Dec 29, 2008 6:17 pm

Thanks Mumbles I will add this to the Roll up Roll up History section.

It is 1914 isnt it not 1904?
as the birth for Phyllis fits a 1914

this may be Samuel
1893
CREW Samuel Dudley Dudley Register Office DUD/208/284

and Mary A

1897
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference
WELLS Mary A Dudley Dudley Register Office DUD/223/169

Rite it is 1914
Deaths Dec 1914 Chandler Phillis 19 Dudley 6b 988

Want now to find Phillis on the 1901 census, anyone?
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Re: Who were those people? What was their story?

Postby FarSide » Mon Dec 29, 2008 7:38 pm

Poss on Samuel
1901
59 Church Road, Netherton
Samuel Crew 36 - collier engine winder
Ellen Crew 36
Bertha A Crew 15
Lillian Crew 12
Samuel Crew 7
May Crew 4
Gladys Crew 5 months
all b Netherton
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Re: Who were those people? What was their story?

Postby Northern Lass » Mon Dec 29, 2008 7:39 pm

1894
CHANDLER Benjamin BURGESS Mary H Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/041/9

nice one FS

I cant see em on teh 1901 these Chandlers
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Re: Who were those people? What was their story?

Postby FarSide » Mon Dec 29, 2008 7:40 pm

I don't see the others, is Bumble hole close to where Samuel is in Church Street?
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Re: Who were those people? What was their story?

Postby Northern Lass » Mon Dec 29, 2008 7:48 pm

Bumble hole is I think Netherton, so Worcestershire

Church Rd is St Andrews Netherton

so yes very close well not far
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Re: Who were those people? What was their story?

Postby Northern Lass » Mon Dec 29, 2008 8:03 pm

Think this is him Benj in 1861 see the name Phillis a sister

so that must be a 2nd marriage for Benj

1861 Dudley St andrew ( that is Netherton)

Joseph Chandler 39 coalminer b Netherton
Mary Chandler 38 wife b Bumble Hole
Mary Chandler 16 ditto
Joseph Chandler 14 ditto
John or Job cant read it....Chandler 12
Benjamin Chandler 10 b Bumble Hole, Worcestershire
Thomas Chandler 8
Elice ? Chandler 6
Phillis Chandler 1
Mary Perren 66 lodger
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Re: Who were those people? What was their story?

Postby peterd » Mon Dec 29, 2008 8:03 pm

this is ironic

Deaths Dec 1914

Belcher Alice 0 Dudley 6b 988
Chandler Phillis 19 Dudley 6b 988
Griffiths Ethel A 0 Dudley 6b 988
Rose William 55 Dudley 6b 988 who this is it your nl
WELLS Mary A 17 Dudley 6b 988


Deaths Dec 1914

Batson Albert W 1 Dudley 6b 987
Coley Beatrice M 1 Dudley 6b 987
Crew Samuel 21 Dudley 6b 987
Perry Hilda V 4 Dudley 6b 987
WHILE Amplias 53 Dudley 6b 987
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Re: Who were those people? What was their story?

Postby FarSide » Mon Dec 29, 2008 8:09 pm

1901
36
Bumble hole
Benjamin Challenor 49 - something? in coal mine
Mary A Challenor 43
Thomas Burgans 24 - Blast furnace labourer - stepson
Mary A Pritchard 22 - daug married
Elizabeth Burgess 13 - step daug
Annie Burgess 9 - step daug
Philis Challener 5
John T Pritchard 1 - grandson
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Re: Who were those people? What was their story?

Postby FarSide » Mon Dec 29, 2008 8:16 pm

1901
63 Bumble hole
Isaac Walls 61 - Furnace lab
James Walls 23 - Canal boatman barge
Thomas Walls 27 - Furnance lab
Jane Walls 24 - dau in law
Mary A Walls 3 - granddau
Nancy Walls 2 - granddau
Eliza Walls 3 months - granddau
all b Netherton
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