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Re: Stumped! Who did she marry first time round!!

PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:53 pm
by Jimmy
It looks like Sarah is in the 1861 and 1871 census's as BROCKHOUSE.

Re: Stumped! Who did she marry first time round!!

PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:25 pm
by Northern Lass
Thanks Jimmy

So those are deffo the kids well some of them. Ann maria is an odd one why isnt Charles down as the father for her.
He was still alive by then.
But just Sarah the mother is on ...odd.

and why did she put the name Plyance on 41 and 51 and then change it as Jimmy says then change it back for her married name.

Wonder who her mother was?

James Dale m Susannah ?
poss abt 1805?

Re: Stumped! Who did she marry first time round!!

PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 9:07 am
by Jimmy
The only one on the IGI at about the right time. Extracted.
JAMES DALE.
SUSANNA BELLAMY.
Marriage, 30 JUN 1795. Basford, Nottingham,

Re: Stumped! Who did she marry first time round!!

PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 9:12 am
by Jimmy
There are 6 children christened to James and Susannah in Nottignham, and only Sarah in Staffordshire.

Re: Stumped! Who did she marry first time round!!

PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 10:35 am
by Northern Lass
thanks Jimmy I am going to add that lot to Connections

still want to know why she called herself Pylance...dog with a bone me!
:lol: :roll:

Re: Stumped! Who did she marry first time round!!

PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 10:53 am
by Jimmy
All extracted, I hope the are right.

JAMES DALE.
Christening, 26 APR 1796. Saint Mary, Nottingham, Nottingham,

JEMIMA DALE.
Christening, 11 DEC 1797. Saint Mary, Nottingham, Nottingham,

JANE DALE.
Christening, 05 JUN 1799. Saint Mary, Nottingham, Nottingham,

SARAH BELLAMY DALE.
Christening, 14 JAN 1801. Saint Mary, Nottingham, Nottingham,

RICHARD MEADOWS DALE.
Christening, 14 SEP 1804. Saint Mary, Nottingham, Nottingham,

HARRIET DALE.
Christening, 09 AUG 1816. Saint Mary, Nottingham, Nottingham,

Parents to all James and Susanna Dale

Re: Stumped! Who did she marry first time round!!

PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 10:57 am
by Northern Lass
So that Sarah must have died then cos the Sarah we have is bapt 1805 at Tipton?

Having that Sarah there has made me unsure now and those middle names ...hmmmm :?

Re: Stumped! Who did she marry first time round!!

PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 11:15 am
by Jimmy
I have just looked up the name PLIANCE in the NBI 2 burials and there are only 2 in the country,

William Pliance, age 1, 11/11/1827, St Martin , Tipton,

Mary, 02.08/1829, age 3, St Martin, Tipton.

Re: Stumped! Who did she marry first time round!!

PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 11:24 am
by Jimmy
Charles Brockhouse, burial, 19/08/1832, age, 27, St Martin, Tipton.

And the next day,

Elizabeth Brockhouse, burial, 20/08/1832, age, 5, St Martin, Tipton.

Re: Stumped! Who did she marry first time round!!

PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 12:18 pm
by Northern Lass
Jimmy wrote:I have just looked up the name PLIANCE in the NBI 2 burials and there are only 2 in the country,

William Pliance, age 1, 11/11/1827, St Martin , Tipton,

Mary, 02.08/1829, age 3, St Martin, Tipton.


I don't see how these could belong to Sarah Brockhouse( nee Dale) as she is married during this time and husband charles doesnt die until 1832.

Something is very odd though.
I wonder if he dies (Charles) and she lives with a William Pliance and those are his kids from another marriage.

Is there a bapt for those 2?

Re: Stumped! Who did she marry first time round!!

PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 12:24 pm
by Northern Lass

Re: Sarah Dale b 1805

PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 1:31 pm
by Jimmy
I can't find any christenings or marriages in the IGI, FAMILYHISTORY online, FREEBMD, or anywhere.
There is a death for Mary Pliance in 1844,
PLIANCE Mary. Tipton. Sandwell Register Office. TIP/7/280.

Deaths Mar 1844.
PLIANCE Mary. Dudley. 18. 287.

And the only other is Sarah's Marriage PLYANCE in 1876.
It seems the name only crops up with this family.

Re: Sarah Dale b 1805

PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 1:36 pm
by Jimmy
The witness's to this marriage,
SARAH DALE. Spinster,
CHARLES BROCKHOUSE. Bachelor.
Marriage, 10 OCT 1824. Saint Peter Or Collegiate, Wolverhampton, Stafford,

were, Charles Constable and Samuel Hancher.

From,
http://www.gpt63.dial.pipex.com/stpeter ... les-da.pdf

Re: Sarah Dale b 1805

PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 1:57 pm
by Northern Lass
Ok thanks Jimmy for looking.

Are we done with this one off for now?

So unless otherwise advised this topic will be archived within 24 hrs
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