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*Archived * -George Smart b abt 1858

Postby Northern Lass » Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:59 am

Done a look up for Pete on George Smart and Mary Jane Taylor..here....

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =905353697

his father is a William Smart- Labourer.

can we find Georges parents etc
witness is a John thomas Smart and Hannah Smart

( nb posting the spouse Mary jane Taylor as a separate thread)

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Re: George Smart b abt 1858

Postby Jimmy » Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:44 pm

1881 census.Living in the same road as Mary Jane,


William SMART. Head M Male 60 Tipton, Stafford, Brick Maker
Sarah SMART. Wife M Female 76 Tipton, Stafford,
George SMART. Son U Male 20 Tipton, Stafford, Engineer Brickworks
Joseph SMART. Son U Male 14 Tipton, Stafford, Brick Maker
Mary DAVIS. Visitor M Female 60 Tipton, Stafford,

Dwelling 29 Coneygate Road
Census Place Tipton, Stafford, England
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Re: George Smart b abt 1858

Postby Jimmy » Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:53 pm

Looking at the age of Sarah I would think she is a second wife to William, this could be it, extracted.

William Smart.
SARAH PLYANCE OR DALE.
Marriage, 03 APR 1876. Saint Thomas, Dudley,


Marriages Jun 1876.
Plyance Sarah. Dudley 6c 81.
Smart William. Dudley 6c 81.
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Re: George Smart b abt 1858

Postby Northern Lass » Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:11 pm

I think that is the correct one Jimmy
got George and Mary Jane Smart on the 1891 census at 28 Coneygree tipton

1891 census 28 Coneygree tipton
George Smart h m 33 General Labourer b Staffs tipton
Mary J wife 28 b Tipton
George son 9
Ellen dau 4
Lucy dau 1
Samuel Taylor boarder m b West Brom
Thomas Taylor boarder 17 general labourer b Tipton.

so her father is with them there.
That lot in 1881 with wife Ellen is the correct ones and I will enter those. for taylor
name of dau is Ellen so it fits.

So that looks good for the Smart family but is Sarah his mother as you say bit old
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Re: George Smart b abt 1858

Postby Northern Lass » Fri Dec 12, 2008 3:49 pm

I think this is the family on the 1861 census

1861 Tipton Randles? lane private

William Smart h m 43 labourer
Ann Smart wife 36
Robert son 15
John Thomas son 5
Benjamin son 1
all b Tipton Staffs

that is I believe the John Thomas on the certif.
But no George so he must have been b 1861 as on the 1881 age 20 and not 1858 age 33 on 1891.

So marriage would be good for Ann and William Smart ... :grin:
and on the 1851 census to confirm that she is an Ann and not a Mary ann as there are 2 marriages

1848
SMART William VENABLE Ann Sedgley, All Saints Dudley Register Office 216/005/288

and
1845
SMART William EVANS Mary A Sedgley, All Saints Dudley Register Office 216/004/19
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Re: George Smart b abt 1858

Postby Jimmy » Fri Dec 12, 2008 4:36 pm

There is only this one extracted.

WILLIAM SMART.
ANN VENABLE.
Marriage:
13 JUN 1848 Sedgley, Stafford,
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Re: George Smart b abt 1858

Postby Northern Lass » Fri Dec 12, 2008 4:57 pm

I think it must be that one cos found both William Smarts one with Ann and one with Mary Ann on the 1851.
The one with Mary ann is the incorrect one.

So 1851 Turners lane Tipton Staffs

William Smart h m 32 b Shrops Dovenby?????
Ann Smart wife 26 b Dudley Port
Robert son 5
James son 2
Elizah dau 8 mths
Emmanuel Buck lodger 20

I will look the 2 marriages up for William hopefully they will have the same father.
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Re: George Smart b abt 1858

Postby Northern Lass » Fri Dec 12, 2008 5:19 pm

Well now look here.... :grin:

think this confirms it
that dob for Robert was worrying me! b abt 1845/6 and yet parents married 1848

1845
VENABLE Robert D Dudley Dudley Register Office DUD/022/480

so that'll do me!

so unless anyone has anything further to add this will be moved to archived section within 24 hrs pending look ups at archives
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