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*Archived * Help! Eliza Parish or Cox!

Postby Northern Lass » Wed Dec 10, 2008 1:56 pm

Ok did a marriage look up and I am confused...

Ira Dunn married Eliza Parish in 1859 @ St peters Cradley
Elizas father is Edwin Cox yet she is down as a spinster!

so what is going on there then?

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Re: Help! Eliza Parish or Cox!

Postby Jimmy » Wed Dec 10, 2008 2:33 pm

Hi NL,

Found this, extracted.

ELIZA PARISH.
Christening, 23 JUN 1835. Halesowen, Worcester,
Mother: ANN PARISH.
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Re: Help! Eliza Parish or Cox!

Postby Jimmy » Wed Dec 10, 2008 2:38 pm

Is this them.

1881 census.
Ira DUNN Head M Male 49 Lye Horse Nail Maker
Eliza DUNN Wife M Female 45 Two Gates
Charles DUNN Son U Male 20 Two Gates Shoe Maker
Elijah DUNN Son U Male 18 Two Gates Felt Maker
Selina DUNN Daur U Female 15 Two Gates Serv General
Albert DUNN Son U Male 13 Two Gates Errand Boy
Eli DUNN Son Male 8 Two Gates Scholar


Dwelling Two Gates
Census Place Cradley, Worcester,
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Re: Help! Eliza Parish or Cox!

Postby Northern Lass » Wed Dec 10, 2008 2:42 pm

thanks Jimmy- so maybe mother Ann married Edwin Cox?
is there a marriage?
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Re: Help! Eliza Parish or Cox!

Postby Jimmy » Wed Dec 10, 2008 2:51 pm

This is the only one I can see.

Marriages Dec 1838.
Cox Edwin. Dudley 18 414.
FELLOWS Hannah. Dudley 18 414.
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Re: Help! Eliza Parish or Cox!

Postby Jimmy » Wed Dec 10, 2008 2:55 pm

Subbmitted
There is this one for an EDWARD COX.

EDWARD COX.
ANN PARISH.
Marriage, 25 DEC 1835. Old Swinford, Worcester,
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Re: Help! Eliza Parish or Cox!

Postby Jimmy » Wed Dec 10, 2008 3:02 pm

Could this be them.

1881 census.
Edwin COX Head M Male 72 Cradley, Worcester, Gem Maker
Ann COX Wife M Female 68 Halesowen, Worcester,
Simeon COX Son U Male 31 Cradley, Worcester, Gem Barrel Grinder
Fanny COX Daur U Female 21 Cradley, Worcester, Tailoress
Blanche ADAMS Grand Daur Female 2 Cradley, Worcester,


Dwelling Windmill Hill Nes
Census Place Cradley, Worcester,
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Re: Help! Eliza Parish or Cox!

Postby dianel » Wed Dec 10, 2008 3:05 pm

Ah, I think that explains it, Jimmy. I was thinking the other way round, that maybe Eliza took her stepfather's name, but found Ann & Edwin still together all the way through the census. Might as well post them in case it's useful ...

1841 - Two Gates, Cradley
Edwin Cox 30 Grinder
Ann Cox 25
Eliza Cox 6
Charles Cox 4
Thos Cox 1

Lotta Coxes on this page. Looks like father, Daniel, mother, Phebe, and several brothers.

1851 - Two Gates, Cradley
Edwin Cox 41 Gun Barrel Grinder b. Worcs., Cradley
Ann Cox 37 Nailor b. Worcs., Hasbury
Eliza Cox 15 Nailor b. Worcs., Cradley
Charles Cox 14 Gun Barrel Grinder b. Worcs., Cradley
Thos Cox 12 Gun Barrel Grinder b. Worcs., Cradley
Willm Cox 9 b. Worcs., Cradley
Sarah Cox 6 b. Worcs., Cradley
Thos Cox (should be Simeon?) 3 b. Worcs., Cradley
Emma Cox 1 b. Worcs., Cradley

1861 - Windmill Hill, Cradley
Edwin Cox Head 51 Gun Barrel Grinder b. Worcs., Cradley
Ann Cox Wife 47 Nailer b. Worcs., Cradley
Thomas Cox Son 22 Gun Barrel Grinder b. Worcs., Cradley
William Cox Son 19 Gun Barrel Grinder b. Worcs., Cradley
Sarah Cox Daur 16 Nailer b. Worcs., Cradley
Simeon Cox Son 14 Nailer b. Worcs., Cradley
Emma Cox Daur 11 Scholar b. Worcs., Cradley
Louisa Cox Daur 9 Scholar b. Worcs., Cradley
Caleb Cox Son 6 Scholar b. Worcs., Cradley
Fanny Cox Daur 1 b. Worcs., Cradley
Charles Edmonds Visitor 30 Forge Man b. Worcs., Cradley

1871 - Windmill Hill, Cradley
Edwin Cox Head 61 Gun Barrel Grinder b. Worcs., Cradley
Ann Cox Wife 57 Gun Barrel Grinder’s Wife b. Worcs., Cradley
Simeon Cox Son 23 Gun Barrel Grinder b. Worcs., Cradley
Emma Cox Daur 21 Chain maker b. Worcs., Cradley
Louisa Cox Daur 18 Chain maker b. Worcs., Cradley
Caleb Cox Son 16 Gun filer b. Worcs., Cradley
Fanny Cox Daur 11 Scholar b. Worcs., Cradley

1881 - Windmill Hill N.E.
Edwin Cox Head 72 Gun Maker b. Worcs., Cradley
Ann Cox Wife 68 b. Worcs., Halesowen
Simeon Cox Son 31 Gun Barrel Grinder b. Worcs., Cradley
Fanny Cox Daur 21 Tailoress b. Worcs., Cradley
Blanche Adams Granddaur 2 b. Worcs., Cradley

I think it is daughter, Emma, next door, married to John Adams.
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Re: Help! Eliza Parish or Cox!

Postby Jimmy » Wed Dec 10, 2008 3:06 pm

Extracted.

ANN PARISH.
Christening, 21 OCT 1814. Halesowen, Worcester,
Parents:
JOSEPH PARISH.
SARAH.
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Re: Help! Eliza Parish or Cox!

Postby linell » Wed Dec 10, 2008 4:09 pm

Jimmy wrote:Extracted.

ANN PARISH.
Christening, 21 OCT 1814. Halesowen, Worcester,
Parents:
JOSEPH PARISH.
SARAH.


Hi all, Joseph Parish and Sarah Bagley are all ready on BCC, don't think Eliza is on there? These families all lived in the Two Gates/Windmill Hill area of Cradley, so it's a forgone conclusion that they all married into each others families, thanks Jimmy from linell.
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Re: Help! Eliza Parish or Cox!

Postby Northern Lass » Wed Dec 10, 2008 4:38 pm

Ok so are we saying that Eliza is the dau of Edwin/Edward Cox?
and hence he is down as father on marriage certif of dau?
But she was born before they married so she was called Parish on official docs ie bapt and marriage certif?

:?

do we put her down as Cox or Parish?

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =768013038

and Parish's here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections
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Re: Help! Eliza Parish or Cox!

Postby linell » Wed Dec 10, 2008 6:57 pm

Bit more info from the Vicar's Notebook 1857. Edwin Cox Gun Borer at Hayseech, Rents Church Pew, Brother of Ann Harris, has a Well 30 yards deep :!: Wife Ann attends Church, children Wm 22 Chainmaker attends Church is wild :lol: Simeon 16 Gun Maker, Louisa 11 attends Methodist New Connexion Sunday School, Caleb 9 also attends New Connexion Sunday School, Fanny aged 4.
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Re: Help! Eliza Parish or Cox!

Postby Jimmy » Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:22 pm

Both Extracted.

EDWIN COX.
Christening, 11 NOV 1810. Cradley, Worcester,
Parents:
JOHN COX.
SARAH.


JOHN COX.
SARAH JONES.
Marriage, 25 DEC 1809, Halesowen, Worcester,
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Re: Help! Eliza Parish or Cox!

Postby Northern Lass » Thu Dec 11, 2008 3:01 pm

Thanks guys!
ok gonna archive this

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