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Re: *Archived tbc * Harrys query in Islington!

Postby peterd » Wed Nov 26, 2008 8:31 pm

poss joseph smart 1881

Joseph SMART Head 61 Halesowen, Worcester, Bricklayer
Ruth SMART Wife 55 Halesowen, Worcester, Nailer
Ann SMART 29 Halesowen, Worcester, Button Factory Hand
George SMART 23 Halesowen, Worcester, Nailer
Fanny E. SMART 15 Halesowen, Worcester, Button Factory Hand
Alice SMART 12 Halesowen, Worcester, Scholar
Harriett Ann COLEY Grand Daur 9 Halesowen, Worcester, Scholar


poss his marriage

SMART Joseph STOKES Ruth 1847 Halesowen, St John the Baptist

poss older daug harrietts parents

SMART Susan COLEY Thomas 1869 Halesowen, St John the Baptist

any one find him on 51,61
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Re: *Archived tbc * Harrys query in Islington!

Postby peterd » Wed Nov 26, 2008 8:41 pm

poss jane smart marriage

Marriages Mar 1844

LEA George Stourbridge
SMART Jane Stourbridge


1881 census

Blackberry Lane, Hasbury, Worcester

Jane LEE Head W 56 HalesOwen, Worcester, Nail Maker
Mary E.J. LEE 24 Hasbury, Worcester, Rivet Maker
Carthina LEE 20 Hasbury, Worcester, Rivet Maker
Harry LEE 18 Hasbury, Worcester, Nail Maker
John Albert LEE 15 Hasbury, Worcester, Nail Maker
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Re: *Archived tbc *Harrys query in Islington! (P putting on C's)

Postby Northern Lass » Thu Nov 27, 2008 5:01 pm

Pete Ok to archive this and you work it from there or do you need it left?
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Re: *Archived tbc *Harrys query in Islington! (P putting on C's)

Postby peterd » Thu Nov 27, 2008 5:55 pm

leave as i asked people for census info on this page and page 1

also is mary wite married to joseph and mary cocksey married to joseph to be put on bcc or do they need more investigating
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Re: *Archived tbc *Harrys query in Islington! (P putting on C's)

Postby Northern Lass » Thu Nov 27, 2008 6:13 pm

peterd wrote:leave as i asked people for census info on this page and page 1

also is mary wite married to joseph and mary cocksey married to joseph to be put on bcc or do they need more investigating


I suggest that you put them in the notes for Joseph Smart the father and put down Edward and then put his father Joseph Smart on and mother Mary with marriage info in notes for both of them
On Josephs notes mention the possible marriage for Parents
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Re: Harrys query in Islington! (P putting on C's)

Postby FarSide » Thu Nov 27, 2008 6:57 pm

Looks like them
1851
113
Roundbow, Halesowen
Joseph Smart 30
Ruth Smart 24
Susanna Smart 3
Both nailors all b Halesowen

1861
113
Spring Hill, Hasbury
Ann Smart 10 - b Hasbury
George Smart 2 - b Hasbury
Joseph Smart 41 - Halesowen
Ruth Smart 34 -Lutley?
Susannah Smart 13 - Hasbury - Nurse girl?
others nailors
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Re: Harrys query in Islington! (P putting on C's)

Postby FarSide » Thu Nov 27, 2008 7:04 pm

Do we have this
1871
43
Cowbock?, Halesowen
Emma Coley 1
Susan Coley 22
Thomas Coley 21 - son in law - nailmaker
Alice Smart 2
Ann Smart 19 - Button maker
Fanny E Smart 5
George Smart 12
Joseph Smart 51 - Bricklayer journeyman
Ruth Smart 44 - nailmaker
Mary Ann Webb 20 - lodger
All b Halesowen
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Re: *Archived tbc * Harrys query in Islington!

Postby peterd » Thu Nov 27, 2008 7:25 pm

peterd wrote:these are all children of joseph and mary smart (All submitted)




EDWARD SMART Christening: 12 OCT 1817 Halesowen,........................ Worcester on 51 married

JOSEPH SMART Christening: 30 JAN 1820 Halesowen, Worcester, ............ married ruth 51,61,71

FANNY SMART Christening: 08 SEP 1822 Halesowen, Worcester................ on 51 married to thomas dingley

JANE SMART Christening: 23 JAN 1825 Halesowen, Worcester, poss married james lea 1844

JOHN SMART Christening: 23 JAN 1825 Halesowen, Worcester,.... john married to emma, Islington 1851

THOMAS SMART Christening: 14 AUG 1831 Halesowen, Worcester,

ELLEN SMART Christening: 07 DEC 1834 Halesowen, Worcester,....... poss living with mother at bro edward


can any one find these together on 1841,51 census


thanks fs

any chance of finding the remaing two jane and thomas

have a jane married to a james lea 1844 think that might be her
nothing on thomas at the moment
nothing on family as a whole in 1841 census either


any chance anyone can find any of the above
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Re: Harrys query in Islington! (P putting on C's)

Postby peterd » Thu Nov 27, 2008 8:36 pm

could this be thomas ?

1881

44 High St, Rowley Regis, Stafford,

Thomas SMART Age 51 Occupation Whitesmith Birthplace Halesowen, Worcester

Ann E. SMART Age 46 Occupation – Birthplace Stoke, Stafford,

Elijah SMART Age 18 Occupation – Birthplace Rowley Regis, Stafford,

Ellen SMART 17 Occupation Dressmaker Birthplace Rowley Regis, Stafford,

Jeremiah SMART 14 Occupation – Birthplace Rowley Regis, Stafford,

Walter SMART 13 Occupation Scholar Birthplace Rowley Regis, Stafford,

Thomas SMART Relationship Relative Condition W Age 78 Occupation Annuitant Birthplace Halesowen, Worcester,



is thomas srn a brother to joseph or is this the wrong thomas and its thomas jr father ?

poss marr
SMART Thomas ROSE Susannah 1860 Halesowen, St John the Baptist
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Re: Harrys query in Islington! dingley/smart (P in C)

Postby FarSide » Thu Nov 27, 2008 10:54 pm

Added to BCC
Poss
George rather than James

Marriages Mar 1844
LEA George Stourbridge 18 461
SMART Jane Stourbridge 18 461

1861
96
Spring hill, Hasbury
Carthina Lea 4 Mo
Charles Lea 12
David G Lea 6
George Lea 39 - b Illy
Jane Lea 37 - b Halesowen
Joseph Lea 14 - b Halesowen
Mary E J Lea 4
Thomas Lea 9
Others b Hasbury, all nailors

1871
98
Hagley Road, Hasbury
Carthena Lea 10
David C Lea 15 - nailor
George Lea 49 - Gardner
Harry Lea 8
Jane Lea 46
John A Lea 5
Mary E I Lea 16 - nailor
Thomas Lea 19 - Iron lab
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Re: Harrys query in Islington! dingley/smart (P in C)

Postby peterd » Thu Nov 27, 2008 11:09 pm

thanks fs i meant george
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Re: Harrys query in Islington! dingley/smart (P in C)

Postby FarSide » Fri Nov 28, 2008 5:55 am

Mally from thread.....need to link Thomas Dingley in
Just filling in on connections & wondered where Ann Dingley b1844 was as she is not with her parents, Thomas & Francis

Here she is:

1851: Islington

Edward Swart 34 Head (Smart?) Already on connections
Sarah Swart 30 Wife
Thomas Swart 11 Son
George Swart 6 Son
Edward Swart 4 Son
Sarah Anne Swart 2 Dau
Anne Dingley 7 Neice
Ellen Swart 16 Lodger
Mary Swart 55 Lodger


Could Ellen Swart/Smart be this Ellen -:

Pete... this thread
ELLEN SMART Christening: 07 DEC 1834 Halesowen, Worcester,....... poss living with mother at bro edward
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Re: Harrys query in Islington! dingley/smart (P in C)

Postby FarSide » Fri Nov 28, 2008 6:10 am

Added to BCC
I'm a bit lost with this lot, do you have this
1841
Islington, Halesowen
Mary Smart 45 - Ind
Joseph Smart 20 - Nailor
Faney Smart 15
John Smart 15
Ann Smart 14
Mary Smart 12
Elen Smart 6

living at same place
Edward Smart 20
Sarah Smart 15 - not b in county - could this be Sarah Hardman.. clearly looks like 15 years old tho
Thomas Smart 8 Mo
All b in county

IGI
THOMAS SMART 25 DEC 1840 Halesowen parents Thomas Smart and Sarah
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Re: Harrys query in Islington! dingley/smart (P in C)

Postby Northern Lass » Fri Nov 28, 2008 11:08 am

thats the ones FS do add anything to that lot not already on... :wink:

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I bet that mother is not Cocksey but Cooksey
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Re: Harrys query in Islington! dingley/smart (P in C)

Postby FarSide » Fri Nov 28, 2008 11:13 am

so you think Sarah age 15 is wife of Edward, I reckon it is...
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