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Re: John William Frederick Bissell b abt 1870

Postby linell » Sun Nov 16, 2008 6:35 pm

Hi all, don't know if this ties in but I have Elisha Bissell born 1814 RR Married Elizabeth Willetts 1815 Halesowen at Old Swinford 3.4.1836. Elizabeth is the daughter of George Willetts and Sarah Harris. Elisha and Elizabeth had children, Sarah 1836, Fanny 1838, Elisha 1840, Joseph 1842, Elizabeth 1844, Mary Ann 1847, Hannah 1848, Benjamin 1850, Wm and John both born about 1857? Best Wishes linell.
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Re: John William Frederick Bissell b abt 1870

Postby peterd » Sun Nov 16, 2008 9:13 pm

Northern Lass wrote:Have done a look up on a marriage and the occupation is this...and I have seen it now a few times....

a Fosbrook norton - well that is what it looked like

wot is it??

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found this

Forsbrook, Stafford - its a place
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Re: John William Frederick Bissell b abt 1870

Postby Carol » Sun Nov 16, 2008 9:44 pm

What a detective :idea:
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Re: John William Frederick Bissell b abt 1870

Postby FarSide » Sun Nov 16, 2008 9:59 pm

Possible
1891
38 Pear Street, Rowley
Samuel Bissell 44 - Chainmaker - born Cradley
Hannah E Bissell 42 - Chainmaker
Florry Bissell 14 - Chainmaker
Constance P Bissell 11
Fanny M Bissell 7
Mary E Bissell 5
Others born Rowley
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Re: John William Frederick Bissell b abt 1870

Postby FarSide » Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:05 pm

2 Possibles
#1
1851
20
Hew Road, Cradley
Ann Bissell 1 week
Joseph Bissell 27
Samuel Bissell 4
Susannah Bissell 29 - born Halesowen
Others born Cradley

#2
1851
30
Gibbett Lane, Hasbury
Emila Bissell 2 - born Halesowen
Hannah Bissell 10 Mo - born Hasbury
Neri Bissell 26 - Gun Barrel grinder
Samuel Bissell 4
Simion Bissell 25
William Bissell 6
Others born Cradley
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Re: John William Frederick Bissell b abt 1870

Postby Northern Lass » Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:27 pm

theres that Neri again .... and the name Florrie

I wonder if Neri Bissell had sons John who married Mary a. White and Samuel who married hannah Willetts

so we need a look up to see if father is neri dont we?

John called his dau in 2nd marriage to an Ann Florrie...... :?
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Re: John William Frederick Bissell b abt 1870

Postby FarSide » Sun Nov 16, 2008 11:46 pm

1861
90
Gibbet Lane, Hasbury
Emily Bissell 12 - Nail forger - born Halesowen
Hannah Bissell 10 - Nail forger - born Hasbury
Jemima Bissell 35 - Nail forger - born Cradley
John Bissell 6 - born Hasbury
Joseph Bissell 8 - born Hasbury
Mary Bissell 4 - born Hasbury
Neri Bissell 34 - Gun barrell grinder
Neri Bissell 2 - born Hasbury
Samuel Bissell 14 - Ironworks Lab - born Cradley
William Bissell 16 - Ironworks Lab- born Cradley

1871
131
Gibbet Lane, Cradley
Emily Bissell 22
Jimmima Bissell 45
John Bissell 16
Joseph Bissell 18
Mary Bissell 14
Neri Bissell 47
Neri Bissell 18
Olive Bissell 2 - born Hasbury
Sarah Bissell 8 - born Hasbury
Thomas Bissell 6 - born Hasbury
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Re: John William Frederick Bissell b abt 1870

Postby Northern Lass » Sun Nov 16, 2008 11:54 pm

Ok so do we think that this Neri Bissell with John here...

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections


had this Samuel too here...

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections

I think they are bros Samuel and John and I can join the tree up...need the look up to back it up so will add it to look ups


Wot do we think?
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Re: John William Frederick Bissell b abt 1870

Postby dianel » Mon Nov 17, 2008 6:25 am

FarSide wrote:Possible
1891
38 Pear Street, Rowley
Samuel Bissell 44 - Chainmaker - born Cradley
Hannah E Bissell 42 - Chainmaker
Florry Bissell 14 - Chainmaker
Constance P Bissell 11
Fanny M Bissell 7
Mary E Bissell 5
Others born Rowley


Hmmm... In my tree I have Benjamin WILLETTs (!!!) married to a Flora BISSELL.

In the 1901 Census there is:

Pearson Street., Cradley Heath, Rowley Regis
Benjamin Willetts Head 28 Chain maker b. Rowley Regis
Flora Willetts Wife 24 b. Rowley Regis
Isaac Willetts Son 6 months b. Rowley Regis

Then 3 entries away, there is:

Samuel BISSELL Head 54 Chain maker b. Worcs., Cradley
Elizabeth BISSELL Wife 52 b. Rowley Regis
Constance P BISSELL Dau 21 Dressmaker b. Rowley Regis
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Re: John William Frederick Bissell b abt 1870

Postby linell » Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:06 am

Hi NL I have some notes for Neri Bissell, no DOB but he had two daughters Emily 1848 Cradley Married Alfred Withers and Hannah Bissell 1849 Cradley Married John Withers, brothers maybe, I haven't checked as they are not in my tree? Best Wishes from linell.
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Re: John William Frederick Bissell b abt 1870

Postby Jimmy » Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:57 am

1881 he is down as NEAL BISSELL.


Neal BISSELL. Head M Male 56 Cradley, Worcester, Gun Barrel Grinder
Jemmima BISSELL. Wife M Female 55 Cradley, Worcester,
Sarah BISSELL. Daur Female 17 Halesowen, Worcester, Button Fty Examiner Goods
Thomas BISSELL. Son Male 16 Halesowen, Worcester, Lab Gun Barrel Wks
Olive BISSELL. Daur Female 12 Halesowen, Worcester, Scholar
Elizabeth BISSELL. Daur Female 9 Halesowen, Worcester, Scholar


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Census Place Hasbury, Worcester, England
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Re: John William Frederick Bissell b abt 1870

Postby Carol » Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:20 am

Further to Peter's discovery that Forsbrook is a place, Norton is a small pace near to Forsbrook in Staffordshire-put it into Google map
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Re: John William Frederick Bissell b abt 1870

Postby Jimmy » Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:32 am

SAMUEL BISSELL.
Christening, 26 SEP 1847. Halesowen, Worcester,

JOHN BISSELL.
Christening, 24 MAR 1856. Halesowen, Worcester,

MARY BISSELL.
Christening, 25 MAR 1857. Halesowen, Worcester,

NERI BISSELL.
Christening, 01 NOV 1858. Halesowen, Worcester,

THOMAS BISSELL,
Christening, 19 APR 1865. Halesowen, Worcester,

NERIA BISSELL.
Christening, 08 APR 1874. Halesowen, Worcester,
Parents:
NERIA BISSELL.
JEMIMA.

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Re: John William Frederick Bissell b abt 1870

Postby Northern Lass » Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:51 am

Thanks guys will get this all on connections.....soon... :shock:

yes well done Pete and Carol mystery solved :wink:
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Re: John William Frederick Bissell b abt 1870

Postby Jimmy » Mon Nov 17, 2008 10:26 am

Extracted.

NEIRI BISSEL.
Christening, 08 MAY 1825, Cradley, Worcester,
Parents:
WILLIAM BISSEL.
SARAH.

Extracted.
NERI BISSELL.
JEMIMAH WORTON.
Marriage, 13 SEP 1846. Clent, Worcester,
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