*Archived * -Sarah Tromans b 1836

[mumbles]

Peter & Jan,
Whilst inserting details on BCC I found another possible connection as folllows:-
Joseph Darby born 1833 son of Thomas and Catherine Darby married a Sarah Tromans born 1833/4 RR in Dec. Q. of 1854 Dud.vol.6c page 161. Joseph died and she married a Joseph Bennett also a widow and son of Daniel and Parthenia Bennett.
there is already a Sarah Tromans on tree born 1834 ( inserted by Manc) and family details by Dennis Wood inserted by Sedge.
If this is same Sarah Tromans who married Joseph Darby it would make another connection to Tromans tree

[Northern Lass]

Peter & Jan,
Whilst inserting details on BCC I found another possible connection as folllows:-
Joseph Darby born 1833 son of Thomas and Catherine Darby married a Sarah Tromans born 1833/4 RR in Dec. Q. of 1854 Dud.vol.6c page 161. Joseph died and she married a Joseph Bennett also a widow and son of Daniel and Parthenia Bennett.
there is already a Sarah Tromans on tree born 1834 ( inserted by Manc) and family details by Dennis Wood inserted by Sedge.
If this is same Sarah Tromans who married Joseph Darby it would make another connection to Tromans tree

So do you know the parents of this Sarah Tromans at all? The one who married Joseph Darby?
Ok well really need the marriage checked and at the moment I am not going to Smethwick....but may be soon!

1854
DARBY Joseph TROMAN Sarah Rowley Regis, St Giles Sandwell Register Office 18/2/241

Do you have the other marriage?
When did she marry Bennett?
When did joseph Darby die?
Did they call their kids Ruth at all?

[mumbles]

Jan,
I cannot find marriages of Joseph Darby to Matilda or Sarah Tromans nor death of Joseph ( c. 1866 too many Joseph Darby entries at 1866) .
I have sent you an e-mail with details validating marriages and relationships. It could be 2nd and third marriages did not take place ?

[Northern Lass]

Really need that marriage certif or look up to verify who Sarahs parents are before we join anything up - as there are so many Tromans.

[dianel]

1861 - Rowley Village
Thomas Darby Head 50 Nailor b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Catherine Darby Wife 49 Nailor b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
John Darby Son 20 Pipe Maker b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Sarah Darby Daur 17 Nailor b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Eliza Darby Daur 15 Nailor b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Mary Darby Daur 9 Nailor b. Staffs., Rowley Regis

Next entry:
Joseph Darby Head 28 Nailor b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Sarah Darby Wife 25 Nailor b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
William Darby Son 6 Nailor b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Sarah Darby Daur 4 Nailor b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Thomas Darby Son 2 Nailor b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Eliza Darby Daur 10 Mo Nailor b. Staffs., Rowley Regis

1871 - Rowley Village
Thomas Darby Head 60 Nailor b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Catherine Darby Wife 58 Nailor b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
James Simpson Head (Lodger) 29 Minor b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Eliza Simpson Wife 25 Nailor b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Sarah Ann Simpson Daur 4 Scholar b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Mary Jane Simpson 1 b. Staffs., Rowley Regis

Next entry:
Sarah Darley Head Widow 35 Nailor b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Wm Darley Son 16 Pottery Boy b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Sarah Darley Daur 14 Nailor b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Thomas Darley Son 13 Nailor b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Eliza Darley Daur 8 Scholar b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Joseph Darley Son 5 Scholar b. Staffs., Rowley Regis

1881 - 34 Rowley Village
Joseph Bennett Head 57 Boiler Smith b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Sarah Bennett Wife 47 Nail Maker b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Elizabeth Bennett Daur 21 Nail Maker b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Joseph Darby Step-son 15 Labourer at Pipe Works b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Fanny Bennett Daur 14 Scholar b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Rebecca Bennett Daur 7 Scholar b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Hannah Bennett Daur 4 Scholar b. Staffs., Rowley Regis

At 33 Rowley Village
Thomas Darby Head Widr 71 No Occupation b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Eliza Darby Daur Widow 34 Nail Maker b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Sarah Ann Darby Grand-daur 14 Scholar b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Mary Jane Darby Grand-daur 11 Scholar b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Fanny Darby Grand-daur 8 Scholar b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Hannah Darby Grand-daur 4 Scholar b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
William Darby Grandson 2 b. Staffs., Rowley Regis

[Northern Lass]

Thanks Di for all this info you are a star!


ps anyone gonna stick it on connections? ...pretty please....

[mumbles]

Hi NL,
I have already started putting in connections including connection to Lench family. .
However I cannot make connection to Sarah Tromans already on tree as it has not been validated . I will put on as another Sarah Tromans and connection can be inserted if proven later.
Regards

[Northern Lass]

Nice one Mumbles really good work!

Ok this is the marriage...
1854
DARBY Joseph TROMAN Sarah Rowley Regis, St Giles Sandwell Register Office 18/2/241

so we need the father dont we.

Now I am going to open up a list for Sandwell/Smethwick archives seeing as how Dudley are closed soon for a couple of weeks.

So I will open up another list...but I am not making any promises

[Northern Lass]

Just flagging this with everyone to see if we can move this to archived section...pending (hopefully) the look up at archives re marriage...

So unless otherwise advised this will be moved to archived section within 24 hrs

[Northern Lass]

Bringing this back to the boards as I have done the marriage look up for Sarah Tromans and for Joseph Darby here ...

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =413145705

It is not the same Sarah as is on Connections already as that one has father Benjamin

This Sarah has father Thomas so can we try and find Sarah pre marriage in 1854 on the census and find her mother and then fit Thomas Tromans nailer living at Rowley village, into the Tromans line



ps Sarah is coming out as born abt 1836 so a bapt would be good too

[Jimmy]

Extracted

SARAH TROWMANS.
Christening: 12 JUN 1836. Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England

Parents:
THOMAS TROWMANS,
SARAH,

[Northern Lass]

Ok thanks Jimmy well I am a bit stumped on this as we need to fit this Thomas now into the huge Tromans tree
and there are 2 possibles on the Connections but equally well could be loads more not on Connections...

So can we find Thomas Tromans with Sarah b 1836 to pinpoint his dob on the census?

[FarSide]

Is this them

1851
104
Whitehall, Halesowen
Betsy Andrews 14 - nail maker b Gornal? wood
Joseph Andrews 48 - Ag lab
Martin Andrews 9
Phebe Andrews 46 - nail maker b Halesowen Candwood, Cheshire??
William Andrews 13 - spade maker
Sarah Tromans 20 - b Selly Oak
Thomas Tromans 21 - son in law

1861
168
Forge Lane, Halesowen
Jemima Tromans 2
Sarah A Tromans 30 - b Selly Oak
Sarah A Tromans 7
Thomas Tromans 29 -Nailor
Other b Halesowen

1871
14
Forge Lane, The hill, Halesowen
Ann Troman 18 - Nail forger
Charles Troman 3
Jemina Troman 12
Ruth Troman 10
Sarah Troman 39 - Nail forger
Thomas Troman 36 - Gun barrel maker
Thomas Troman 5
William Troman 7
All b Halesowen

next door
Emma Andrews 1
Harry Andrews 3
Martin Andrews 37
Mria Andrews 31

1891
13
Dudley Lane, The hill, Haleowen
Thomas Tromans 56
Sarah Ann Tromans 57 - b Selly Oak
Jennina Tromans 6

[FarSide]

Poss marriage

Marriages Mar 1851
Andrews Sarah Ann Stourbridge 18 525
TROMANS THOMAS STOURBRIDGE 18 525

[Northern Lass]

I might not be thinking clearly but Thomas should be b pre 1820 and his dau Sarah is abt 1836.

so not sure it could be this one....or is it me?