Joseph Hill b abt 1889

[Northern Lass]

His father is Timothy
could do with a dob for Timothy and mother for Joseph pls

24 Dec 1913 St Luke Cradley Heath
Joseph Hill 24 B Ironworker Old Hill Father Timothy Hill Miner
Edith Siviter 22 S Old Hill Father Samuel Siviter (Dec) Chain Maker
Wit;Francis Parsons Mary A H Bache

opening thread for Edith

thanks to RF for look up

[Jimmy]

1901. 251 Halesowen Rd, Old Hill, Rowley Regis.
Timothy Hill 47. Widow. Coalminer.
Thomas Hill 21.
Isaac Hill 18.
Frederick James Hill 16.
William Hill 13.
Joseph Hill 11.
May Hill 8.
Sophia Smith 46. Servant.

All others born Old Hill.

1891. 196 Halesowen Rd.
Timothy Hill 37. Coalminer.
Eliza Hill 34.
Timothy Hill 14.
Thomas Hill 11.
Isaac Hill 9.
Fredrick James Hill 6.
William Hill 3.
Joseph Hill 1.

All born Rowley Regis.

1881.
Timothy HILL Head. M. Male. 27. Rowley Regis, Stafford, Coal Miner.
Eliza HILL Wife. M. Female. 25. Rowley Regis, Stafford, Nail Forger.
Timothy HILL Son. Male. 4.
Thomas HILL Son. Male. 1.

King St No 10.
Rowley Regis, Stafford.

West Midlands Marriage 1872.
HILL Timothy, POWELL Eliza, Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office. 204/029/455.

TIMOTHY HILL.
ELIZA POWELL.
Marriage: 02 SEP 1872, Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester.

[Northern Lass]

Flagging for help adding this lot pls

we dont seem to have Timothy b abt 1854 or Joseph b abt 1890 on

but the others may be on so would need checking

[grangers14]

I'll add it.
Jo

[Northern Lass]

Thanks JO

[Jimmy]

1861. Cherry Orchard, Rowley Regis.
Timothy Hill 37. Coal miner.
Eliza Hill 39. born Tipton.
Phebe Hill 17.
Eliza Hill 11.
Timothy Hill 7.
Joseph Hill 1.

Others born Rowley Regis.

[Jimmy]

TIMOTHY HILL.
ELIZA WORTON.
Marriage, 14 FEB 1842, Old Swinford, Worcester.

[grangers14]

Children and Census added her
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... d=14983234

I'll add that marriage to be looked up.
Jo

[Northern Lass]

1861. Cherry Orchard, Rowley Regis.
Timothy Hill 37. Coal miner.
Eliza Hill 39. born Tipton.
Phebe Hill 17.
Eliza Hill 11.
Timothy Hill 7.
Joseph Hill 1.

Others born Rowley Regis.

So hang on

we have 2 Timothy Hills born 1824-26 ish

one marries a Sarah one marries an Eliza

and either could be this one
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =363835601

[Northern Lass]

So does he marry twice

TIMOTHY HILL.
ELIZA WORTON.
Marriage, 14 FEB 1842, Old Swinford, Worcester.


1861. Cherry Orchard, Rowley Regis.
Timothy Hill 37. Coal miner.
Eliza Hill 39. born Tipton.
Phebe Hill 17.
Eliza Hill 11.
Timothy Hill 7.
Joseph Hill 1.

Others born Rowley Regis.
TIMOTHY HILL
SARAH MARSH OR PEARSON.
Marriage: 14 AUG 1865, Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester.

1881.
Timothy HILL Head M Male 55 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Coal Miner.
Sarah HILL Wife M Female 54 Rowley Regis, Stafford.
James HILL Son U Male 14 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Coal Miner.
Hannah HILL Daur U Female 18 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Nailer.

12 Spring Meadow.
Rowley Regis, Stafford.

[grangers14]

1851 census is showing 2 Timothys and theres an odd thing in 1871. Best wait for marriage look up I think?
1871 Census. Spring meadow, Rowley Regis
Timothy Hill, head, 45, Stone Miner
Sarah, wife, 43,
Timothy, son, 17, stone miner
Anne, daur, 8,
James, son, 4,
Isaac, son, 2,
Leah Marsh, step daur, 16, Nail Maker
John Marsh, grand son, under 1 month
Edward Marsh, step son, 13, stone Miner
All born Rowley Regis

(missed surname and one out, just added)

[Northern Lass]

1861. Cherry Orchard, Rowley Regis.
Timothy Hill 37. Coal miner.
Eliza Hill 39. born Tipton.
Phebe Hill 17.
Eliza Hill 11.
Timothy Hill 7.
Joseph Hill 1.

1871 Census. Spring meadow, Rowley Regis
Timothy Hill, head, 45, Stone Miner
Sarah, wife, 43,
Timothy, son, 17, stone miner
Anne, daur, 8,
James, son, 4,
Isaac, son, 2,
Leah, step daur, 16, Nail Maker
John, grand son, under 1 month
All born Rowley Regis

It is the same family

1881.12 Spring Meadow.Rowley Regis, Stafford
Timothy HILL Head M Male 55 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Coal Miner.
Sarah HILL Wife M Female 54 Rowley Regis, Stafford.
James HILL Son U Male 14 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Coal Miner.
Hannah HILL Daur U Female 18 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Nailer.


same addresss
Ann/ Hannah
James

[Northern Lass]

I think that is our Timothy in 1861 with father Timothy and mother Eliza

she must die and he remarries in 1865 to Sarah

[Jimmy]

West Midlands Death 1863. Sept. Qtr.
HILL Eliza, Rowley Regis Sandwell, Register Office, RR/19/15,

[grangers14]

1851 Census. New Street, Rowley Regis.
Joseph Bannister, head, 24, Miner, Worcestershire parish of ?
Ann, wife, 20, Worcestershire parish of ?
Sarah Ann, daur, 2, Worcestershire parish of ?
Timothy Hill, Lodger, 25, Miner, Rowley
Eliza, wife, 27, Tipton
Phebe, daur, 7, Rowley
Eliza, daur, ? Rowley

1851 census. Gadds Green, Rowley regis
David Priest, head, 40, nail forger
Ann, wife, 47,
William, son, 19,
Mary, daur, 17,
Elizabeth, daur, 15,
Ann, daur, 9,
John Hill, Inmate, 24, Coal miner
Timothy Hill, inmate, 22, Coal Miner
All born Rowley Regis

next door,
Joseph Hill, head, 30, nail Forger
Elizabeth, wife, 33,
Caroline, daur, 11,
Honor, daur, 4,
Jane Hackett, inmate, W, 42, nail Forger,
Thomas, inmate, 14, Coal Miner
Jane, inmate, 12, nail Forger
Sarah, inmate, 10,
Joseph, inmate, 8,
Alice, inmate, 7,
Leah, inmate, 6
All born Rowley Regis