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Postby juba » Mon Oct 20, 2008 4:55 pm

Hello

I have just joined and my name is not one of the popular ones in this area.

I have a George DYSON b c 1803 in Rowley Regis who married Mary ? also born Rowley Regis.

Their son William was born c 1833 in Oldbury. They all ended up in Brum.

Are there any other DYSON researchers on the list?

Does anyone recognise these people? Their occupation on census was Grinder. One of the daughters became a steel pen grinder.

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Re: DYSON in Oldbury and Rowley Regis

Postby Northern Lass » Mon Oct 20, 2008 5:09 pm

Hi Juba
not had a look at the census to see when first kids came along do you know?

there is a submitted entry on IGI that says Rowley but marriage b'ham then this extracted entry

GEORGE DYSON Spouse: MARY BENNETT
Marriage: 26 DEC 1825 Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick,
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Extracted

where is Mary born on census?
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Re: DYSON in Oldbury and Rowley Regis

Postby peterd » Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:25 pm

juba what census do you have?
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Re: DYSON in Oldbury and Rowley Regis

Postby juba » Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:46 am

I wrote a detailed reply - had a phone call and several other interruptions and then finished it and sent it and -------- got a new page telling me to log in again.

I did so, returned to previous page and my email was not there - all gone.

Why did this happen??? Anyhow - in summary - I have george and mary in census in brum 1841 onwards
I have william and wife emma ditto
the three children of george and mary were all christened in 1837 in brum at one go - oldest two were not born in brum

can't find ann/anna/hannah - the eldest
have followed both william (my direct line) and elizabeth (betty married john foster) in later census

mary bennett is distinct possiblity - but unproven.

but where did the DYSONs come from originally?

And are there any other families in the Oldbury area in the early 1800s?

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Re: DYSON in Oldbury and Rowley Regis

Postby peterd » Wed Oct 22, 2008 11:32 am

here all three christened together


ANN DYSON
Birth: 16 JUL 1828
Christening: 02 MAR 1837 Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick

ELIZABETH DYSON
Birth: 13 OCT 1834
Christening: 02 MAR 1837 Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick

WILLIAM DYSON
Birth: 06 MAY 1832
Christening: 02 MAR 1837 Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick
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Re: DYSON in Oldbury and Rowley Regis

Postby peterd » Wed Oct 22, 2008 11:40 am

this william marriage

WILLIAM DYSON
EMMA TYE
Marriage: 28 AUG 1853 Aston Juxta Birmingham, Warwick

poss elizabeths

Dec 1853

Dyson Betsy Aston
Forster John Aston

Lloyd Prudence Aston
Main Richard Thomas Aston


juba can you put the census info on for 41,51,61 and the adresses cheers pete

is there any dyson living near them in the census juba?

also can only see a couple of dyson in oldbury but the name might change to dison or diason let try to find out
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Re: DYSON in Oldbury and Rowley Regis

Postby juba » Wed Oct 22, 2008 12:32 pm

peterd wrote:here all three christened together


ANN DYSON
Birth: 16 JUL 1828
Christening: 02 MAR 1837 Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick

ELIZABETH DYSON
Birth: 13 OCT 1834
Christening: 02 MAR 1837 Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick

WILLIAM DYSON
Birth: 06 MAY 1832
Christening: 02 MAR 1837 Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick



yes these are the only three children this couple seems to have had - though some could have died - esp between ann and william.

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Re: DYSON in Oldbury and Rowley Regis

Postby juba » Wed Oct 22, 2008 12:43 pm

juba wrote:
peterd wrote:


juba can you put the census info on for 41,51,61 and the adresses cheers pete

is there any dyson living near them in the census juba?

also can only see a couple of dyson in oldbury but the name might change to dison or diason let try to find out



sorry I missed the last bit of this in haste

1841
george, mary, ann, william + betsy in glover st, aston, hamlet of deritend - william a grinder - only betsy born in county

1851
george, mary ann william + betsy all in glover st, george + willilam are grinders - kids shown b brum the parents rowley regis

1861
george and mary are living in glover st with john forster and betsy and their two children lethaty?? and elizabeth. john and betsy are shown as lodgers but are daugther and son in law. george is grinder, john is filer and betsy steel pen grinder. george and mary again born rowley regis, betsy brum and john worcs, looks like broud


I haven't looked too closely aroudn these census for other dysons recently but did do that kind of hting when i started this line and would have saved them if i had foudn any. but may be something i should go back to when i have a minute.

cheers

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Re: DYSON in Oldbury and Rowley Regis

Postby Northern Lass » Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:28 pm

Ok will put this on Connections Juba and pos the link for you to look at so watch this space/post
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Re: DYSON in Oldbury and Rowley Regis

Postby peterd » Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:37 pm

juba are you a member of genes reunited as there some dysons for rowley and oldbury
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Re: DYSON in Oldbury and Rowley Regis

Postby peterd » Wed Oct 22, 2008 2:18 pm

ok Juba put on what you gave use so far please check it and let me know if any mistakes pete

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =895729316
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Re: DYSON in Oldbury and Rowley Regis

Postby juba » Wed Oct 22, 2008 3:24 pm

peterd wrote:ok Juba put on what you gave use so far please check it and let me know if any mistakes pete

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =895729316



Thanks - I hadn't realised you would quote it exactly

It should be - as a tree

George DYSON m Mary (? BENNETT) c 1825

children
Ann b c 1828, William b c 1833 Oldbury, Elizabeth b c 1835 Birmingham

William DYSON m Emma TYE 28.08.1853 St Peters and St Pauls, Aston, Birmingham
children : William, Thomas, Elizabeth, John

Elizabeth (Betsy) DYSON m John FORSTER/FOSTER 27 Nov 1853 Aston Juxta
Children : Ann, Mary Ann, Emily, John, Letitia, Betsy, Benjamin

I won't list any later generations as they remain in Brum and are not relevant to the black country

thanks

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Re: DYSON in Oldbury and Rowley Regis

Postby juba » Wed Oct 22, 2008 3:26 pm

peterd wrote:juba are you a member of genes reunited as there some dysons for rowley and oldbury




I do go on genes now and then but don't have more than the bare direct line back on there. I haven't found it all that helpful - most of the people I find there I already know!!!

But I will have a look again as its been a while

thanks

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Re: DYSON in Oldbury and Rowley Regis

Postby peterd » Wed Oct 22, 2008 3:59 pm

hi juba think you might be looking at the tree wrong did you click on elizabeth dyson thats highlighted in yellow this will show her parents (the exact quotes are just in the notes )

do you have any dob for william and betsy offsprings
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Re: DYSON in Oldbury and Rowley Regis

Postby Northern Lass » Wed Oct 22, 2008 4:45 pm

juba wrote:[
Thanks - I hadn't realised you would quote it exactly

It should be - as a tree

George DYSON m Mary (? BENNETT) c 1825

children
Ann b c 1828, William b c 1833 Oldbury, Elizabeth b c 1835 Birmingham

William DYSON m Emma TYE 28.08.1853 St Peters and St Pauls, Aston, Birmingham
children : William, Thomas, Elizabeth, John

Elizabeth (Betsy) DYSON m John FORSTER/FOSTER 27 Nov 1853 Aston Juxta
Children : Ann, Mary Ann, Emily, John, Letitia, Betsy, Benjamin

I won't list any later generations as they remain in Brum and are not relevant to the black country

thanks

Ros


Hi Juba

Ok just to explain it a little. We have put the info on as a tree.
we also have by the side of each entry notes just to qualify a point or reference.
So if you click on this link here...

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =546872270

you will see the ancestors and descendants.
So we could do with the dobs for these children of Wm and Emma

William DYSON m Emma TYE 28.08.1853 St Peters and St Pauls, Aston, Birmingham
children : William, Thomas, Elizabeth, John

and
Eliz and Johns children dobs
Elizabeth (Betsy) DYSON m John FORSTER/FOSTER 27 Nov 1853 Aston Juxta
Children : Ann, Mary Ann, Emily, John, Letitia, Betsy, Benjamin

if you have these dates we can add them and add those children no point in reinventing the wheel if you have the info.

Now as far as not adding the Brum ones dont worry about that as I explained to you once you have one ancestor on that was from the black country his descendants or ancestors can come from whereever as long as one of your ancestors came from the black country or surrounding area.

So it is coming together and with that xtra info from you we can help you start to add your own.
Cheers Jan :wink:
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