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*Completed* John Jones b abt 1829 d 1875

Postby Northern Lass » Sun Oct 12, 2008 9:11 am

Hi only 2 more wrong certifs to go! yipeee!

Ok so we got a DEATH CERTIF for a John Jones b abt 1829 - died 1875
wife is an Eleanor (I think)
living Merridale area W'ton now the info is unchecked that I found and done rather quickly so could do with you clever lot veryifying it before it goes on connections....so here is the certif info..

15 Jan 1875 Merridale St Wolverhampton West- John Jones -47 yrs- Stock lock Maker- informant M A Jones sister in law of deceased present at the death Church Lane W'ton..

more to go on...min..

Down the road is his brother James and sister in law Mary Anne + Kids -
must be on 1871 census cant remember.
Both living Merridale
1881 Mary Ann and James Jones living Church lane.

This John is on 1861 census Same address ie Merridale

So wot can we find for this one and I will put it on the tweeeeeeeeee
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Re: John Jones b abt 1829 d 1875

Postby peterd » Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:09 pm

is john married on 1861 census ?
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Re: John Jones b abt 1829 d 1875

Postby Northern Lass » Wed Oct 15, 2008 10:38 am

Ok lets get more on this lot....

1861 23 Merridale st
John Jones 32 h stock lock maker h
Ellenor Jones 30 wife
William Jones 6
Walter Jones 4
Isbel Jones 3
Thomas Jones 1
John Bate 26 lodger

1871 W'ton western area merridale
John Jones h 40 Stock lock maker b Staffs W'ton
Eleanor Jones wife bStaffsTettenhall
William John Jones son Stock lock maker 15 b W;ton
Walter son 13 Stock lock maker 13 b W'ton
Isabel dau 11
thomas 9
Catherine 7
Blanche 6
Francis 4

down the road is possibly his brother tbc and I think the lady who is the informant on the death cert Mary ann Jones sis in law
1871
James Jones h 30 locksmith b w'ton
Mary Ann Jones 30 b Northhampton kingsthorpe?
William Smart Jones 11 son b Tettenhall Staffs

1881 census 49 church lane W'ton
James Jones h 40 plate lock maker b W'ton
Mary Ann Jones wife b Northhampton Kingsthorpe
William Jones son 21
Bernard son 18
Alfred son 15
James Hendrick? apprectice 19


anyone see a marriage for John and Eleanor
and James and Mary ann
and parents for John and hopefully James the same
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Re: John Jones b abt 1829 d 1875

Postby Jimmy » Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:12 pm

JOHN JONES.
ELLEN ROGERS.
Marriage: 29 SEP 1857. Saint Matthew, Wolverhampton, Stafford,

This one may be a bit late.
JOHN JONES
ELEANOR ROBERTS Family
Marriage: 31 DEC 1863. Tettenhall, Stafford,

Both extracted.
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Re: John Jones b abt 1829 d 1875

Postby Jimmy » Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:17 pm

JAMES JONES.
Father: THOMAS JONES.

MARY ANN SMART.
Father, Samuel Smart.

Marriage: 14 OCT 1861. Wednesfield, Stafford,
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Re: John Jones b abt 1829 d 1875

Postby Northern Lass » Wed Oct 15, 2008 4:37 pm

Jimmy wrote:JOHN JONES.
ELLEN ROGERS.
Marriage: 29 SEP 1857. Saint Matthew, Wolverhampton, Stafford,

This one may be a bit late.
JOHN JONES
ELEANOR ROBERTS Family
Marriage: 31 DEC 1863. Tettenhall, Stafford,

Both extracted.


thanks Jimmy just had a look at the marriages on the W'ton site. The 1857 one is a labourer father is a John Jones farmer so dont think it is that one. I think it is the 1863 one cos of her name and she is from there. In which case a look at their marriage would be peachy.
But not sure if the church has the records these days. Think they give em to the archives. I know W'ton has them.
Will check if the church does too.
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Re: John Jones b abt 1829 d 1875

Postby Northern Lass » Wed Oct 15, 2008 4:43 pm

Jimmy wrote:JAMES JONES.
Father: THOMAS JONES.

MARY ANN SMART.
Father, Samuel Smart.

Marriage: 14 OCT 1861. Wednesfield, Stafford,



nice one Jimmy !! result!
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Re: John Jones b abt 1829 d 1875

Postby peterd » Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:42 pm

think this might be the marriage noticed it last night and now that there a lodger bates makes me think it could be


Marriages Dec 1853

Bate Eleanor Wolverhampton
Jones John Wolverhampton
Raffarty John Wolverhampton
Travers Mary Wolverhampton
Westacott George South Molten
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Re: John Jones b abt 1829 d 1875

Postby Northern Lass » Wed Oct 15, 2008 7:44 pm

Do you know that could be a possibility need to eliminate the other guys see who they are with on the 1861 census...anyone?
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Re: John Jones b abt 1829 d 1875

Postby mallosa » Wed Oct 15, 2008 9:31 pm

1861: 23 Merridale Street, Wolverhampton
John Bate 26 U Lodger Cabinet Maker Tettenhall, Staffordshire
Ellenor Jones 30 Wife M
Isbel Jones 3 Dau
John Jones Head M Stock Lock Maker 32
Thomas Jones 1 Son
Walter Jones 4 Son
William Jones 6 Son

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Re: John Jones b abt 1829 d 1875

Postby mallosa » Wed Oct 15, 2008 9:53 pm

1861: Riverton, Swimbridge Devon
George Westacott 52 H M Game Keeper South Molton, Devon
John Westacott 14 Son ( could he have been from a previous marriage)
Mary Westacott 50 Wife Witheridge, Devon
Mary Westacott 8 (fits in with year of marriage)

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Re: John Jones b abt 1829 d 1875

Postby dianel » Thu Oct 16, 2008 4:56 am

JOHN JONES
ELEANOR ROBERTS Family
Marriage: 31 DEC 1863. Tettenhall, Stafford,
This one could probably be discounted as our John and Eleanor are married already by the 1861 census - and have 4 children, eldest 6.

This would put their marriage at about 1855. The 1853 marriage is looking good.

As I was drawn to the John JONES / Eleanor BATE marriage, I jumped the gun and looked at confirming this first:

Eleanor Bate in pre-marriage census. She should be about 10 in 1841. Does she have a brother John of the right age (ie. b. abt 1835)?

1841
At Lane Green, Tettenhall, Staffs.
John Bate 40 Tutor Not born in Staffs.
Ann Bate 30 b. Staffs.
Elleanor Bate 11 b. Staffs.
John Bate 10 (b. 1831) b. Staffs. (Hmm, a bit early, but not too much.)
Ann Bate 8 b. Staffs.
James Bate 6 b. Staffs.
Maria Bate 3 b. Staffs.
Catharine Bate 1 30 b. Staffs.

1851
At Lane Green, Tettenhall, Staffs. (Still next to Thomas and Mary Williams)
William J Bate (William John?) 50 Linguist b. London, St. Anne
Ann Bate 39 b. Staffs., Wolverhampton
James F Bate 15 b. Tettenhall, Staffordshire
Maria V Bate 12 b. Tettenhall, Staffordshire
Catherine E Bate 10 b. Tettenhall, Staffordshire
Jane F Bate 8 b. Tettenhall, Staffordshire
Thomas Bate 3 b. Tettenhall, Staffordshire

Eleanor not with them. Is this her?
1851
At North St., Wolverhampton
Ellenor Bate Head 21 Milliner B. Wolverhampton
on her own

Can’t see John in 1851.
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Re: John Jones b abt 1829 d 1875

Postby Northern Lass » Thu Oct 16, 2008 9:59 am

Nice one Di!
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So I am going to put Bate on her name.
and will update the tree
thanks guys!

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