*Arc tbc* --Joseph Whorton/Worton X 2

[linell]

I think this is the same Joseph

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =790836146

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =790836146

Linell.

[linell]

This is him 1861 at Waste Bank Lye:-

JOSEPH WORTON Head Married 59 yrs
JEMIMAH WORTON Wife Married 55 yrs
ELIZABETH WORTON Daughter Unmarried 19 yrs
JANE WORTON Daughter Unmarried 17 yrs

I think Joseph was the son of Wm Whorton and Sarah Naile.

Linell.

[linell]

Can't find a Wm Whorton aged about 15 with a father Joseph aged about 50 in Cradley in 1851

Linell.

[mallosa]

This is him 1861 at Waste Bank Lye:-

JOSEPH WORTON Head Married 59 yrs
JEMIMAH WORTON Wife Married 55 yrs
ELIZABETH WORTON Daughter Unmarried 19 yrs
JANE WORTON Daughter Unmarried 17 yrs

I think Joseph was the son of Wm Whorton and Sarah Naile.

Linell.

Found this, could the children be his Step Children?

1851: Waste Bank, Lye
Joseph Worton 49 Horse Nailmaker Cradley, Worc
Jemima Worton 45
Ann M Hamblett 21 Dau In Law U Nail Forger
Henry Hamblett 17 Son In Law
William Hamblett 15 Son In Law
Joseph Hamblett 12 Son In Law
Elizabeth Hamblett 9 Dau In Law Lye
Jane Hamblett 6 Dau In Law

others borm Wollescote

[mallosa]

(Extracted)
JOSEPH WHORTON
Spouse: JEMIMA HAMLETT
Marriage: 04 NOV 1849 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester

Marriage 1849
WHORTON Joseph HAMLETT Jemima Dudley, St Thomas 204/009/398

[linell]

Cheers San, wonder if Wm Hamblett aged 15 1851 called himself Worton when he Married Have requested a look up for the Marriage of Joseph and Jemima, many thanks from Linell.

[linell]

Looks like Joseph Married two sisters:-

Joseph Worton and Ann Hamlett 13.1.1822 Old Swinford
Joseph Worton and Jemima Hamlett 4.11.1849 St Thomas

This Joseph must be the son of Wm and Sarah.

There's another Joseph son of Wm and Mary High Park aged 35 U in 1841.

Will wait and see what infomation the look ups bring

Linell.

[linell]

Hi NL, parents were Wm and Sarah or Wm and Mary, fingers crossed that the Marriages will show Wm as father

Many thanks from Linell.

[linell]

Hi NL, parents were Wm and Sarah or Wm and Mary, fingers crossed that the Marriages will show Wm as father

Many thanks from Linell.

<LOL> Won't help with the Sarah or Mary though, but as I said Joseph son of Wm and Mary is in Cradley in 1841.

Cheers from Linell.

[linell]

Hi NL, been through my old notes on the Cradley Wortons and checked the 1841 Census. I am pretty sure that Joseph born about 1804 who Married the Hamlett sisters was the son of William and Sarah Naile. This is William in 1841, with second wife Mary, Joseph is not in the household as he was Married by 1822:-

1841 Lyde Green Cradley
William Worton 75 Nailer
Mary 55
Rueben 35 Nailer (son of Wm and Sarah, brother to Joseph)
Sarah 30
Ann 9
Joseph 6
Israel 4
William 2

Will wait on the Marriage Look Up, many thanks from Linell.

[Northern Lass]

Hi NL, been through my old notes on the Cradley Wortons and checked the 1841 Census. I am pretty sure that Joseph born about 1804 who Married the Hamlett sisters was the son of William and Sarah Naile. This is William in 1841, with second wife Mary, Joseph is not in the household as he was Married by 1822:-

1841 Lyde Green Cradley
William Worton 75 Nailer
Mary 55
Rueben 35 Nailer (son of Wm and Sarah, brother to Joseph)
Sarah 30
Ann 9
Joseph 6
Israel 4
William 2

Will wait on the Marriage Look Up, many thanks from Linell.

Done the lookup on this...

father of Joseph is a William nailer deceased by 1849!

The Hamlett girls Anne Hamlett and Jemima Hamlett are not sisters
might be a sister in law
tbc

On the 1849 Jemima Hamletts father is a Joseph Meredith so Jemima Meredith

Now we have a William Worton and Sarah for Joseph
or
William and Mary

will post linkin a min

we still need which William it is

[Northern Lass]

Rite all those kids are the kids of Richard Hamlet and Jemima

so

Our Joseph is ...on the 1841 Joseph is with his kids

and they are kids of a Joseph and ann
no ann so she has died

ISRAEL WORTON Christening: 24 MAR 1822 Old Swinford, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: JOSEPH WORTON Family
Mother: ANN
Extracted

I am updating bcc with this and will post the link

[linell]

Hi NL gosh you have been busy on here, you know we have opened a can of worms with these Wortons don't you . I think you are correct about the Joseph and Ann Hamlett line from Waste Bank, but I still do not know who Joseph belongs to for sure

I have these notes on the Cradley Wortons:-
1841 Census only has this Worton family in Lyde Green.
William aged 75 (born 1766 son of Israel and Elizabeth Cox. Wife Mary aged 55)
Reuben aged 35 with his wife Sarah 30, children Ann 9,
Joseph 6, Israel 4, William 2. (Reuben 1804 is the son of William and Sarah, also Mary 1786, Israel 1790, John 1795, Wm 1800, Joseph 1804.)


High Town 1841 (Don’t know who this family descends from?)
Wm 45 Bayonet Forger (Wm Married Mary Knowles 28.2.1820 St Thomas Dudley. Witness John Worton, father or brother?)
Mary 45
John 15
Phoebe 10
Jemima 10
William 8

1841 Census High Park
Wm 40 (56 in 1851)
Mary 35 Aged 62 in 1851 (Mary Forrest Married 1.8.1813 Old Swinford.)
Temperance 19
Sarah 17
Betsey 15
David 13
William 4

Wm 23
Mary 20
Ruben 18 (Parents John & Jane Hodgetts 26.9.1814 O/S)
Jane 14 Presume deceased?

Could have four brothers here in High Park, Wm born about 1795 Married to Mary Forest, John who Married Jane Hodgetts father of Wm, Mary, Rueben and Jane. Joseph see below born about 1805, and Israel also born about 1805? Who were their parents? Israel son of John and Ann or Hannah. Israel Married Harriet Wooldridge. Witness Jemima Worton, sister of Israel.
Could be children of 2 brothers?

Joseph (Brother?) 35
Wife Ann deceased
Israel 18
Zechariah 16
Honor 14
Ann 12

Israel (Brother?) 35
Harriet nee Wooldridge 30
Benjamin 17
William 15
Esther 15
Solomon 13
John 10
Patience 7
Ono 4
Comfort 2

[Northern Lass]

I think that in High Park we have those brothers
William
Joseph
Rubin
Israel

all sons of Wm and Sarah accord to bapts

that I think is our Joseph as the kids bapts are for parents Joseph and ann

so dont know who the other lot are at Lyde green but just following the line at HIgh park it fits
I am adding to Bcc as such

any thoughts?

[Northern Lass]

WILLIAM WHARTON Christening: 13 APR 1800 Halesowen, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: WILLIAM WHARTON
Mother: SARAH
Extracted

1841 Census High Park
William Worton m 40 (56 in 1851)
Mary 35 Aged 62 in 1851 (Mary Forrest Married 1.8.1813 Old Swinford.)
Temperance 19
Sarah 17
Betsey 15
David 13
William 4



JOSEPH WHORTON Birth: 1801
Christening: 29 JAN 1804 Cradley, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: WILLIAM WHORTON
Mother: SARAH
Extracted

1841 Census High Park
Joseph Worton 35
Wife Ann deceased
Israel 18
Zechariah 16
Honor 14
Ann 12

ISRAEL WORTON
Christening: 21 NOV 1790 Halesowen, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: WILLIAM WORTON
Mother: SARAH Form submitted

1841 Census High Park
Israel Worton 35
Harriet nee Wooldridge 30
Benjamin 17
William 15
Esther 15
Solomon 13
John 10
Patience 7
Ono 4
Comfort 2

RUBEN WHORTON
Christening: 29 JAN 1804 Cradley, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: WILLIAM WHORTON
Mother: SARAH
Extracted

1841 Census only has this Worton family in Lyde Green.
William aged 75 (born 1766 son of Israel and Elizabeth Cox. Wife Mary aged 55)
Reuben aged 35 with his wife Sarah 30, children Ann 9,
Joseph 6, Israel 4, William 2