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Completed. Unknown Lydia abt 1881 on BCC.

Postby Jimmy » Fri Jan 26, 2024 1:36 pm

Unknown Lydia abt 1881 on BCC. Lily on marriage.

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Albert Squire Ryder. 21. bachelor. Tube drawer. William Ryder. Teaser.
Lily Plant. 20. spinster. Daniel Plant. Labourer. deceased.
Marriage Date 8 Oct 1899.
Marriage Place Birmingham, St Nicolas, Warwickshire.

1911. 62 Westchester, Lincoln. Ontario.
Albert Ryder 31. Polisher.
Lydia Ryder 34.
Susan Ryder 10. Daughter.
Violet Ryder 7. Daughter. England.
Charles Roberts 27. Boarder.
All born England.

RYDER, LILY SUSANNAH PLANT.
GRO Reference: 1901 J Quarter in BIRMINGHAM Volume 06D Page 124

RYDER, ADA VIOLET PLANT.
GRO Reference: 1903 D Quarter in BIRMINGHAM Volume 06D Page 174.

1921. 62 Westchester, Lincoln. Ontario.
Lily Ryder 46. Widowed. England.
Lydia Ryder 8. Daughter. England.
Thomas Treadway 5. Lodger.
Edgar Treadway 13. Lodger.
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Re: Unknown Lydia abt 1881 on BCC.

Postby Jimmy » Fri Jan 26, 2024 1:37 pm

Albert S Ryder.
Marital Status Married.
Age 26.
Birth Date abt 1880.
Last Known Residence Birmingham.
Departure Port Liverpool, England.
Arrival Date 21 Apr 1906.
Arrival Port New York, New York, USA.
Residence Place Birmingham.
Final Destination Catherine, Ont.
Money in Possession 25.
Person in US J Ruder.

Person in US Relationship Brother.
Sibling J Ruder.
Ship Name Caronia.

Mrs Albert Ryder arrived Aug 1906.

Children arrived 24 Sep 1907.
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Re: Unknown Lydia abt 1881 on BCC.

Postby Jimmy » Fri Jan 26, 2024 1:38 pm

Ancestry,

Private Albert Squire Ryder.
Birth Date 25 Mar 1880.
Birth Place Amblecote, Metropolitan Borough of Dudley, West Midlands, England.
Death Date 11 Nov 1917.
Death Place Passchendaele, Arrondissement Ieper, West Flanders, Belgium
Cemetery Poelcapelle British Cemetery.
Burial or Cremation Place Poelkapelle, Arrondissement Ieper, West Flanders, Belgium.
Has Bio? Y
URL https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/121 ... uire-ryder

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Re: Unknown Lydia abt 1881 on BCC.

Postby Jimmy » Fri Jan 26, 2024 1:44 pm

PLANT, MARY JANE MALE.
GRO Reference: 1861 M Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 186.

PLANT, NOAH MALE.
GRO Reference: 1871 M Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 212.

PLANT, LYDIA MALE.
GRO Reference: 1878 S Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 197.


1861. Mamble Square, Stourbridge.
Daniel Plant 40.
Jane Plant 23. Wife.
Mary Plant 3/12. Daughter.
All born Stourbridge.

1871. Brettle Lane, Kingswinford.
David Plant 50. Labourer. Stourbridge.
Jane Plant 32. Wife. Stourbridge.
Mary Jane Plant 10. Daughter.
Thomas Plant 4. Son.
Alice Plant 2. Daughter.
Noah Plant 3/12. Son.
Others born Kingswinford.

1881. Brettle Lane, Kingswinford.
Daniel Plant 61. Labourer In Ironworks. Stourbridge.
Jane Plant 43. Wife. Stourbridge.
Mary Jane Plant 21. Daughter. Stourbridge.
Thomas Plant 14. Son.
Alice Plant 12. Daughter.
Noah Plant 10. Son.
William Henry Plant 4. Son.
Lydia Plant 3. Daughter.
Others born Kingswinford.

All children have mothers maiden name of Male.
No marriage found to a Jane Male.
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Re: Unknown Lydia abt 1881 on BCC.

Postby Jimmy » Fri Jan 26, 2024 1:46 pm

MALE, JANE HALL.
GRO Reference: 1838 M Quarter in STOURBRIDGE UNION Volume 18 Page 437.

MALE, THOMAS HALL.
GRO Reference: 1847 M Quarter in STOURBRIDGE UNION Volume 18 Page 525.

Oldswinford St Mary.
Baptism date 01 Apr 1838.
Jane MALE.
Father Benjamin MALE.
Mother Maria.
Person abode Stourbridge.
Father occupation Tree Turner.

1851. Round ???, Stourbridge.
Benjn Male 41. ??? turner.
Malia Male 32. Wife.
Mary Male 18. Daughter
Jane Male 14. Daughter
Thomas Male 4. Son.
James Hale 45. Lodger.
Caroline Hale 14. Daughter.
Jane Hale 11. Daughter.
John Hale 9. Son.
All born Stourbridge.

No marriage found for Benjamin Male to a Maria Hall.
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Re: Unknown Lydia abt 1881 on BCC.

Postby mallosa » Sun Jan 28, 2024 12:13 am

Jimmy wrote:PLANT, MARY JANE MALE.
GRO Reference: 1861 M Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 186.

PLANT, NOAH MALE.
GRO Reference: 1871 M Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 212.

PLANT, LYDIA MALE.
GRO Reference: 1878 S Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 197.


1861. Mamble Square, Stourbridge.
Daniel Plant 40.
Jane Plant 23. Wife.
Mary Plant 3/12. Daughter.
All born Stourbridge.

1871. Brettle Lane, Kingswinford.
David Plant 50. Labourer. Stourbridge.
Jane Plant 32. Wife. Stourbridge.
Mary Jane Plant 10. Daughter.
Thomas Plant 4. Son.
Alice Plant 2. Daughter.
Noah Plant 3/12. Son.
Others born Kingswinford.

1881. Brettle Lane, Kingswinford.
Daniel Plant 61. Labourer In Ironworks. Stourbridge.
Jane Plant 43. Wife. Stourbridge.
Mary Jane Plant 21. Daughter. Stourbridge.
Thomas Plant 14. Son.
Alice Plant 12. Daughter.
Noah Plant 10. Son.
William Henry Plant 4. Son.
Lydia Plant 3. Daughter.
Others born Kingswinford.

All children have mothers maiden name of Male.
No marriage found to a Jane Male.


1891: Brettell Lane, Kingswinford
[PLANT]
Jane Chant 53 Head Widow Stourbridge
Mary Chant 30 Daughter S Brickmaker Stourbridge
Noah Chant 20 Son S Clay Miner
William Chant 14 Son Lab in Pottery
Lydia Chant 12 Daughter
Sarah Chant 13 Stepdaughter (Step Daughter) (says Grandaughter on census)
Elizabeth Chant 9 Stepdaughter (Step Daughter) (says Grandaughter on census)
William Chant 6 Grandson
Samuel Chant 2 Grandson
(others born Brierley Hill)

PLANT, ELIZABETH -
GRO Reference: 1882 S Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 202

PLANT, WILLIAM -
GRO Reference: 1885 J Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 210

PLANT, SAMUEL -
GRO Reference: 1888 D Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 198
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Re: Unknown Lydia abt 1881 on BCC.

Postby mallosa » Sun Jan 28, 2024 1:01 am

England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name Jane Male
Registration Date 1838
Quarter of the Year Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Place Stourbridge, Worcestershire
Volume 23
Page 437
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Re: Unknown Lydia abt 1881 on BCC.

Postby Jimmy » Sun Jan 28, 2024 11:55 am

mallosa wrote:England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name Jane Male
Registration Date 1838
Quarter of the Year Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Place Stourbridge, Worcestershire
Volume 23
Page 437


MALE, JANE HALL.
GRO Reference: 1838 M Quarter in STOURBRIDGE UNION Volume 18 Page 437.


Oldswinford St Mary.
Baptism date 01 Apr 1838.
Jane MALE.
Father Benjamin MALE.
Mother Maria.
Person abode Stourbridge.
Father occupation Tree Turner.
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Re: Unknown Lydia abt 1881 on BCC.

Postby kdwoodie » Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:00 pm

1901 Brettle Lane Brierley Hill
Jane Plant 63 Head Wid Depending on son Born Stourbridge
William H Plant 24 Son S Brickyard Labourer Born Brierley Hill

Deaths Sept 1904
PLANT Jane 65 Stourbridge 6c 89

William is already on BCC here https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... ver=636855

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Brierley Hill
St Michael
Parish Register
Register entry number 99
Marriage date 13 May 1907
William PLANT 30 bachelor Miner 31 South St. Brierley Hill Daniel PLANT Labourer
Phoebe HOLLOWAY 24 spinster 41 Fenton St. Brierley Hill James HOLLOWAY Blacksmith
Witness1 Thomas LLOYD
Witness2 Jenny LLOYD
Notes Grooms father is deceased.

1911 Living with Phoebes father
1911 23 Williams Street Brierley Hill Kingswinford Stourbridge Worcs.
James Holloway Head 57 (m) Blacksmith born England
Married 36 Years , 10 children, 9 living
Wilfred Holloway son 15 Grocers Errand Boy
David Holloway son 12 Scholar
Minnie Holloway dau 10 Scholar Gurtey Holloway dau 7
William Plant Head (m) 32 Excavator (Sewerage Works) born England Staffs.
2 Children, 1 living
Febery Plant dau 31 (m) House Duties
Doley Plant 1year 8mths
Rest born Brierley Hill Staffs.

1939 67 William St Brierley Hill
William H Plant Male 20 Aug 1876 M Steel Furnace Repairer
Phoebe A Plant [Phoebe A Batham] Female 21 Jul 1882 M Unpaid Domestic Duties
This record is officially closed.

Name William H Plant
Death Age 67
Birth Date abt 1877
Registration Date Jul 1944 [Aug 1944] [Sep 1944]
Registration Quarter Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district Rowley Regis
Inferred County Staffordshire
Volume 6b
Page 733

Name Phoebe A Plant
Registration Date Jan 1952 [Feb 1952] [Mar 1952]
Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district Rowley Regis
Inferred County Staffordshire
Spouse
George J Batham
Volume Number 9b
Page number 1033

I think this is George Batham
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Name James Geroge Batham [Geroge James Batham]
Death Date 31 Jan 1965
Death Place Staffordshire, Stafford, England
Probate Date 28 Jun 1965
Probate Registry Birmingham, England

BATHAM James George otherwise George James of 32 Cressett Avenue Brockmoor Brierley Hill Staffordshire died 31 Jan 1965 at Burton Road Hospital Sedgley Staffordshire Probate Birmingham 26 June to Phoebe Ann Batham wido, £275

HOLLOWAY, PHOEBE ANN ATTWOOD
GRO Reference: 1883 M Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 214

Possible death
Deaths Mar 1975 (>99%)
BATHAM PHOEBE ANN 14DE1882 DUDLEY 33 553
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Re: Unknown Lydia abt 1881 on BCC.

Postby mallosa » Mon Jan 29, 2024 7:02 pm

I think I've got most of it now

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Re: Unknown Lydia abt 1881 on BCC.

Postby kdwoodie » Mon Jan 29, 2024 7:08 pm

I am unsure about Benjamin Males date of birth but will post on a new thread.
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Re: Unknown Lydia abt 1881 on BCC.

Postby Jimmy » Mon Jan 29, 2024 9:11 pm

Thanks Mally this can now be archived.
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