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Marriage to same person 6 years apart

Postby mumbles » Fri Jan 26, 2024 10:19 am

This William John Curtis-Hayward married Ethel Mary Harris twice 1) in 1941 Birmingham 2) in Bridgend in 1947
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He had previously been married to an Ivy Irene Cook who was still living at time of both marriages

I have noted as follows
marriage to Ivy Irene Cook in 1937 was as William John Curtis Hayward

According to London Gazette changed name from William John Curtis Hayward to William John Curtis-Hayward in 1943 but both marriages to Ethel Mary Harris in 1941 and 1947 were as William John Curtis-Hayward. Possibly 2nd marriage in 1947 in Bridgend Glamorgan was because name change invalidated first marriage

But am I correct as name change was after 1st marriage to Ethel Mary Harris.

I presume he was divorced from ist wife
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Re: Marriage to same person 6 years apart

Postby grangers14 » Fri Jan 26, 2024 7:08 pm

That is all very odd mumbles? :?
No birth showing for him either?
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Re: Marriage to same person 6 years apart

Postby kdwoodie » Sat Jan 27, 2024 7:40 am

HAYWARD, WILLIAM  JOHN CURTIS CLARKE  GRO Reference: 1908  M Quarter in PERSHORE  Volume 06C  Page 320
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Re: Marriage to same person 6 years apart

Postby kdwoodie » Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:50 am

Was his first marriage to Ethel bigamous?
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Re: Marriage to same person 6 years apart

Postby Jimmy » Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:17 am

1911. The Borders Farm, Defford, Worcester.
William Charles Hayward 34. Farmer.
Florence Edith Hayward 33. Wife. married 7 years, 4 children born. Besford.
Adeline Emily Hayward 6. Daughter. Besford.
Edith Mary Hayward 4. Daughter.
William John Curtis Hayward 3. Son.
Florence Eileen Hayward 1. Daughter.
All others born Defford.
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Re: Marriage to same person 6 years apart

Postby Jimmy » Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:25 am

William Charles Hayward. full age. bachelor. Baker. George Hayward. Baker.
Florence Edith Clarke. full age. spinster. William Clarke. Farmer.
Marriage Date 20 Jan 1904.
Marriage Place Besford (Defford cum Besford), Worcestershire.
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Re: Marriage to same person 6 years apart

Postby kdwoodie » Sat Jan 27, 2024 10:34 am

Ivy died 28 Feb 1947 and was buried 5 March

Name Ivy Irene Hayward
Age 50
Birth Date abt 1897
Burial Date 5 Mar 1947
Burial Place Fretherne, Gloucestershire, England
Parish as it Appears Fretherne
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Re: Marriage to same person 6 years apart

Postby mumbles » Sat Jan 27, 2024 10:51 am

Thanks Jimmy and kdwoodie .
I do not know if marriage was bigamous or whether change of name with hyphen meant legally had to marry again.
I must ask my sister in law
It could be ist marriage was in register office and second in a church
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Re: Marriage to same person 6 years apart

Postby Jimmy » Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:03 am

1939. Elsie Villa, Gloucester Road, Gloucester.
Ivy I Hayward. 7 Dec 1899. married.
Frank O Woodward.
Frederick H Winter.
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Re: Marriage to same person 6 years apart

Postby Jimmy » Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:24 am

Ancestry image available.

William John Curtis Haywood. 32. bachelor. Engineer. William Charles Haywood. Farmer.
Ivy Irene Cook. 39. spinster. William Cook. Master Mariner.
Marriage Date 18 Dec 1937.
Marriage Place Fretherne, Gloucestershire.
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Re: Marriage to same person 6 years apart

Postby mumbles » Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:25 am

My sister in law says all she knows is her Aunt Ethel Mary Harris married an Hayward and went to Australia about 3 years after she was born

Harris members of family married into Dearne family which farmed at Perry Hill Farm and other farms in area and most are buried in Christ Church Quinton

Farms were in fields behind old Danilo Cinema at Quinton and are probably bisected by M5 today
I remember as kids my parents used to take us over fields to Kings Highway pub and we used to walk from Beaumont Road and past farms and cut down side of cinema and same on return

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Re: Marriage to same person 6 years apart

Postby BC Wench » Sat Jan 27, 2024 12:43 pm

This is just a thought mumbles.

William first married Ethel Mary Harris in Birmingham in 1941 and re-married her again in 1947 in Bridgend, Glamorgan.

Now, was the church in Birmingham C of E and the one in Bridgend a completely different religion because of them living in Wales which they preferred rather than C of E, so re-married under that religion.
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Re: Marriage to same person 6 years apart

Postby grangers14 » Sat Jan 27, 2024 7:00 pm

kdwoodie wrote:HAYWARD, WILLIAM  JOHN CURTIS CLARKE  GRO Reference: 1908  M Quarter in PERSHORE  Volume 06C  Page 320


I din't see that!
I must have been looking with my eyes closed! :roll:
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Re: Marriage to same person 6 years apart

Postby Northern Lass » Sat Feb 03, 2024 9:01 am

Do you need this moved to brick walls mumbles?
or do you want me to move to arc.
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Re: Marriage to same person 6 years apart

Postby mumbles » Sat Feb 03, 2024 9:54 am

Move to Archive NL.
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