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"Complete"Williams family of Rowley Regis---Mumbles sorting

Postby mumbles » Wed Oct 04, 2023 11:13 am

Following "Two Emma Priest" thread Emma married Henry Williams who has father noted as Henry Williams Chain Maker on marriage record
I think his father was not Henry but Bramwell Williams

This is Henry and Emma :-
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =540121458

GRO entries
WILLIAMS, HENRY DEAN
GRO Reference: 1871 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 111
WILLIAMS, HENRY GROVE
GRO Reference: 1873 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 2
WILLIAMS, HENRY TURNER
GRO Reference: 1874 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 40
WILLIAMS, HENRY GRAINGER
GRO Reference: 1874 J Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 80

Freereg marriage 13/3/1865 St. Edmunds Dudley
Bramwell Williams 20 Bach. Trace Maker Dudley father Thomas Williams Trace Maker
Mary Grove 19 Sp. Dudley father Isaac Grove Banksman

This I think is Henry before marriage :-
1891 Census 23 Halesowen Road Rowley Regis Staffs.
Isaac Grove Head 70 Horse Driver at Colliery
Ann Grove wife 70
Thomas Williams grd.son 23 Blacksmith Striker
Henry Williams grd.son 19 Coal Miner
All born Rowley Regis Staffs.
Note Isaac and Ann Grove are on bcc

Bramwell is hard to trace but have found following

Gro Register Bromhall Williams born 1846 Dudley mother Shaw

1851 Census Bowling Green Dudley Worcs.
William Cole Head 61 Nailer
Rosannah Cole wife 50 Nailer
Phoebe Smith sister in law 50 Nailer
Brommel Williams nephew 4 Scholar born Bowling Green Worcs.

1861 not found

1871 Census Oldham Road Castleton Rochdale Lancs.
Mary Ann Brennand Head 38 Boarding House Keeper born Ireland
Jane Brennand dau 9 born Rochdale Lancs.
Margaret Brennand dau 2 born Rochdale Lancs.
Bromall Williams boarder (M) 25 Chain Maker born England
Thomas Broom boarder 30 Chain Maker born England
Samuel Greenwood boarder 51 Labourer Pensioner Royal Marines
Edward Marsh boarder 36 Chain Maker born England

1891 Census 110 Garratts Lane Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Bramwell Williams Head 46 Chain Maker
Mary Williams wife 46 Nail Maker
Elizabeth Williams dau 16 Chain Maker
Martha Williams dau 11 Scholar
Amy Williams dau 8 Scholar
John Williams son 6 Scholar

I think I can connect Bramwell to other Williams on bcc but will make that another thread
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Re: Williams family of Rowley Regis

Postby mumbles » Wed Oct 04, 2023 11:30 am

Found Mary Williams ( nee Grove) in 1871 while her husband in Lancashire

1871 Census Halesowen Road Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Isaac Grove Head 50 Coal Miner
Ann Grove wife 50
Isaac Grove son 16 Coal Miner
Sarah Grove dau 13 Nail maker
James Grove son 6 Scholar
Mary Williams dau 24 (M) Nail Maker
Thomas Williams son 6 Scholar
Alfred Williams son 3
Mary Ada Williams dau 1
Ester Brettle dau 19 (m) Nail Maker
Thomas Brettle son.in.law 19 Chain Maker
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Re: Williams family of Rowley Regis

Postby kdwoodie » Wed Oct 04, 2023 1:01 pm

See my post on Emma Priest thread
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Re: Williams family of Rowley Regis

Postby mumbles » Wed Oct 04, 2023 2:32 pm

Thanks Kdwoodie
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Re: Williams family of Rowley Regis

Postby mumbles » Wed Oct 04, 2023 3:05 pm

I have not connected Henry Williams who married Emma Priest to Bramwell Williams who married Mary Grove but I think there is enough evidence from Census records to connect
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Re: Williams family of Rowley Regis

Postby kdwoodie » Wed Oct 04, 2023 4:55 pm

I agree that Henry is the son of Bramwell and Mary
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Re: Williams family of Rowley Regis

Postby mumbles » Wed Oct 04, 2023 8:37 pm

I Will connect, I have also sorted out Williams family earlier as there were to many Henry Williams born estimate 1800 and children and wife not connected are all now connected
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Re: Williams family of Rowley Regis

Postby Northern Lass » Thu Oct 05, 2023 6:52 am

I will sticky this for you mumbles and if you can put Completed on when done I will move to archive :wink:
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