COMPLETED - Aircraftman R W Rose, KIA

[mallosa]

Here on BCC - gallery/image_page.php?album_id=169&image_id=6282

Found him.......

UK, World War II Index to Allied Airmen Roll of Honour, 1939-1945
Ralph William Rose
Rank: Ac2
Death Age: 19
Birth Year: abt 1928
Death Date: 2 Nov 1947
Military Base: Watton, Norfolk
Service Number: 2333834
Command: Technical Training Cmnd
Residence Place: Blackheath, Staffordshire
Burial Place: Blackheath (St Paul) Churchyard, Staffordshire

I think this could be him with Christian names reversed........

Birth Dec 1928
Rose William R Batson Stourbridge 6c 13

[mallosa]

His parents?

Marriage 1928
ROSE William T BATSON Dorothy I Stourbridge Register Office Dudley Register Office 001/047/55

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Marriages Jun 1928
BATSON Dorothy I Rose Stourbridge 6c 123
GRIFFITHS William Taylor Stourbridge 6c 123
Rose William T Batson Stourbridge 6c 123
Taylor Mary K Griffiths Stourbridge 6c 123

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1939: 6 Hollyoak Road, Rowley Regis
William Rose 33 Grinder married born 8th May 1906
Dorothy Rose 32 married born 31st Jan 1906 (name written in as Dorothy Isabella CRUMPTON so it looks like she remarried after William died)
This record is officially closed.
This record is officially closed.
(another son but unable to add to BCC cos born after 1920 and may still be alive)

England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Dorothy I Rose
Registration Date: Jan 1956 [Feb 1956] [Mar 1956]
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration District: Rowley Regis
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Spouse: William H Crumpton
Volume Number: 9b
Page Number: 1011

England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
William T Rose
Death Age: 36
Birth Date: abt 1906
Registration Date: Jul 1942[Aug 1942] [Sep 1942]
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District: Rowley Regis
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 692

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Here's William Thomas Rose

1911: 98 Malt Mill Lane, Blackheath, Staffs, Worcestershire
William Westwood 22 Head Rivet Maker
Ethel Westwood 23 Wife Malt Mill Lane, Halesowen,
Beatrice Evelyn Westwood 3 Daughter Malt Mill Lane, Halesowen,
Annie Rose 19 Sister-in-law single Malt Mill Lane, Halesowen
William Thomas Rose 5 Adopted Son Malt Mill Lane, Halesowen, Worcestershire


Marriage 1908
WESTWOOD William ROSE Ethel Cradley Heath, Holy Trinity Sandwell Register Office 19/4/162

I believe this is Ethel Rose - https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... ver=577735

[grangers14]

Yes, I think it is Mally.
Annie is I think on BCC as Hannah. William Thomas Rose is not on BCC but from that family. GRO shows maiden name as Hutton for both.
Looks like Hannah Rose
Deaths Jun 1910
ROSE Hannah 42 Stourbridge 6c 62

[mallosa]

Thanks Jo

I'll add more tomorrow

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England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Dorothy I Rose
Registration Date: Jan 1956 [Feb 1956] [Mar 1956]
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration District: Rowley Regis
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Spouse: William H Crumpton
Volume Number: 9b
Page Number: 1011

Marriage 1956
ROSE Dorothy I CRUMPTON William H 1956 Rowley Regis, St Giles Sandwell Register Office 18/16/477

Think i'll request a look up to see if it's this one - https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =899748166

[mallosa]

Yes, I think it is Mally.
Annie is I think on BCC as Hannah. William Thomas Rose is not on BCC but from that family. GRO shows maiden name as Hutton for both.
Looks like Hannah Rose
Deaths Jun 1910
ROSE Hannah 42 Stourbridge 6c 62

So is William Thomas Rose the illegitimate son of Ethel Westwood (Rose) ?

[grangers14]

I feel William Thomas is the son of Hannah? It looks like after Hannah's death the family split...?

ROSE, WILLIAM THOMAS HUTTON
GRO Reference: 1906 J Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 147

ROSE, ANNIE HUTTON
GRO Reference: 1892 S Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 149
On BCC as Hannah.

1911 Census: 168 New John Street Blackheath Birmingham Hill Halesowen Stourbridge Worcs
William Adams Head 44 Coal Miner Loader Underground
Eliza Adams wife 42
Emily Adams dau 16 Bolt Pinter
William Thomas Adams son 2
Matilda Adams dau 2mths.
Thomas Rose Lodger (wid) 47 Brickyard Labourer born Old Hill Staffs.
Lilly May Rose Lodger 7
Rest Born Blackheath Staffs.
Noted as married 18 years and 7 children of which 4 alive and 3 dead

[mallosa]

Yes, I think it is Mally.
Annie is I think on BCC as Hannah. William Thomas Rose is not on BCC but from that family. GRO shows maiden name as Hutton for both.
Looks like Hannah Rose
Deaths Jun 1910
ROSE Hannah 42 Stourbridge 6c 62

Here's William Thomas Rose - https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... ver=578015

So is this where he fits in - https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =915056849

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Connected up and completed with thanks