Ivy Millicenet Oram b 1912--NL adding

[Northern Lass]

Odd name that and oddly I have links to Oram in Newcastle area

wonder if related

anyway...who is she father is George Oram can we find more adding in marriage now
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... i=26752127

[Northern Lass]

ha ha....just found this and connected.
1911 46 Eel Street,Oldbury
George J Oram head 31 chemical plumber b.Northumberland
Mercy Oram wife 21 b.Oldbury,Worc's
Thomas Edwards fatherinlaw 55 brickyard labourer b.Oldbury,Worc's
Elizabeth Edwards motherinlaw 55 b.Birmingham

1939 42 Eel Street,Oldbury,Worc's
George J Oram M 21/12/1873 M Plumber and Lead Burner
Mercy Oram F 28/7/1890 M Shopkeeper
Frank Evans M 25/11/1907 M Press Tool Setter
Ivy Evans F 21/3/1912 M Unpaid Domestic Worker

so the question is this George Oram going back.....does he connect to my William Henry Oram.......born 1879 Tynemouth who marries Amy Bell in 1900
no male children
his father is a William Henry Oram b 1848 who marries Mary Ellen Dall 1871 Tynemouth Northumberland

William Henry Oram.
master mariner on son Wm Henrys marriage

Note featured on BBC 2 A House through time
highlights 5 Ravensworth Terrace

" It is a Georgian end-of-terrace property on Ravensworth Terrace, in Newcastle upon Tyne’s gritty West End"

"In 1894, Bevan Harris moves to Nottingham to continue his Spiritualist mission, and the house sees the arrival of new tenants. Mary Ellen Oram is a draper and her husband William a captain in the merchant navy. To find out more about them David arranges to meet their descendant, ***** To his surprise,*** reveals that in 1900, Mary Ellen is committed to the local lunatic asylum, suffering from ‘melancholia’, what would today be termed depression. Money worries are behind Mary Ellen’s mental health problems. By 1898 her business had failed and her husband loses his job after being found guilty of overloading his ship with coal.

......., Mary Ellen opened her business at exactly the wrong time, when high street drapers were facing stiff competition from new department stores. Mary Ellen is institutionalised for two years, and, David discovers, that she is not the only family member to spend time there. Her husband William was sent to the asylum after suffering from a stroke. Unlike his wife, who was released after two years, the unfortunate William Oram died just eight months after his admission."

So does this George J Oram link to William Henry Oram.?...I never went back on this line as it turns out not my line...complicated story...for another day.

[kdwoodie]

ORAM, IVY MILLICENT EDWARDS
GRO Reference: 1912 J Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 06B Page 1568

EDWARDS Mercy ORAM George J 1910 Oldbury, St James Sandwell Register Office 14/1/192

1911 46 Eel St, Oldbury, Worcester
George Oram Head 31 Married Chemical Plumber Born Walker Northumberland
Mercy Oram Wife 21 Married Born Oldbury (Married 6 Months 0 Children)
Elizabeth Edwards Mother in Law 55 Married Born Birmingham (Married 28 Years 4 Children 4 Living 0 Died )
Thomas Edwards Father in Law 55 Married Brickyard Labourer Born Oldbury

[Northern Lass]

Right starting to add this one intrigues me.

[kdwoodie]

1901 Heworth Durham
George J Oram Head M 27 Plumber Born Walker Northumberland
Margaret R Oram Wife M 23 Born Heworth Lane Durham

Name: George Joseph Oram
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Age: 25
Birth Date: 1874
Marriage Date: 10 Jul 1899
Marriage Place: St.Mary'S Church, Heworth, Durham, England
Father:
Thomas Oyston Oram
Spouse:
Margaret Robinson Wilson
Father:
Thomas Henry Wilson

Name: Margaret R Oram
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Death Registration Place: West Bromwich, Staffordshire, United Kingdom
Death Date: Mar 1906
Inferred Death Place: Staffordshire, United Kingdom
Volume: 6b
Page: 500

1891 Davison Street Heworth Durham
Thomas Oran Head M 39 Mill Sawyer Born Newcastle Northumberland
Catherine Oran Wife M 37 Born Walker
George J Oran Son S 17 Plumber Born Walker
Thomas Oran Son S 15 Slaters Labourer Born Walker
Matha J Oran Daur 13 Scholar Born Felling
Joanna C Oran Daur 11 Scholar Born Felling
Jane Oran Daur 7 Scholar Born Felling
Isabella Oran Daur 5 Scholar Born Felling
Stephen Oran Son 3 Born Felling
Robert C Oran Son 1 Born Felling

FHL Film Number: 1885533
Reference ID: P26 En51

[kdwoodie]

Name: Thomas Oram
Gender: Male
Age: 22
Birth Date: abt 1851
Marriage Date: 7 Sep 1873
Marriage Place: Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England
Father: George Oram
Spouse: Catherine Taggert
Father: Lacland Taggert

[Northern Lass]

Name: Thomas Oram
Gender: Male
Age: 22
Birth Date: abt 1851
Marriage Date: 7 Sep 1873
Marriage Place: Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England
Father: George Oram
Spouse: Catherine Taggert
Father: Lacland Taggert

great stuff is this Ancestry?

wonder if it links to the William Henry Oram b 1848...that is all I have his name and born newcastle way.

[kdwoodie]

All Ancestry

Name: Thomas Oyston Oram
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 20 Jul 1851
Baptism Place: St. Andrew's, Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England
Father:
George Oram
Mother:
Martha Oram
FHL Film Number: 1564925
Reference ID: item 1 p 298

[kdwoodie]

1871 12 St. Ambrose Road Walker Northumberland
George Oram 45 Head Mar Sawyer born Newcastle Northumberland
Martha Oram 42 Wife Mar Born Whickham Durham
Thomas Oram 19 Son Unm Sawyer Born Newcastle
Joseph Oram 18 Son Unm Fireman Born Newcastle
Isabella Oram 15 Daughter Scholar Born Whickham
George Oram 4 Son Scholar Born Long Benton Northumberland

Name: George Oram
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Marriage Date: 18 Aug 1850
Marriage Place: St. Andrew Church, Newcastle, Tyne, England
Father:
Thomas Oram
Spouse:
Martha Daglish
FHL Film Number: 1564886
Reference ID: 22/44

No William Henry

[Northern Lass]

never mind ....could be few generations back

I dont even know who William Henry Orams father is ....he was born 1848 newcastle

[Northern Lass]

right I have added most of that so thank you for all that very interesting.

completed with thanks

[kdwoodie]

Williams father was Thomas i think

[Northern Lass]

Williams father was Thomas i think

Ok thanks not my line really ....however we always thought he was...but the evidence turned up alternative info.
the stories in the family was that a gt grandfather was a danish sea captain...and the Wm Oram that marries Mary Dall he was and
I think her family were scandinavian going back...so there is always some ring of truth ...albeit bit wrong sometimes