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ARC TBC..Samuel Cooper 1829

Postby kdwoodie » Thu Jul 22, 2021 12:46 pm

https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... ver=542080

I think this is his son https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... ver=542080

1861 Shepherds Fold Rowley Regis
Samuel Cooper Head Mar 33 Rivet Maker Born Rowley Regis
Mary A Cooper Wife Mar 31 Born Rowley Regis
Sarah A Cooper Daur 1 Born Rowley Regis

1871 Shepherds Fold Rowley Regis
Samuel Cooper 42 Head Mar Rivetmaker Born Rowley Regis
Mary Ann Cooper 41 Wife Mar Dressmaker Born Halesowen
Samuel Cooper 8 Son Born Rowley Regis
Mary Cooper 5 Daughter Born Rowley Regis

Name: Mary Ann Cooper
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Death Registration Place: Dudley, Staffordshire, United Kingdom
Death Date: Mar 1875
Inferred Death Place: Staffordshire, United Kingdom
Volume: 6c
Page: 4

Name: Sarah Ann Cooper
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 13 Nov 1859
Baptism Place: Rowley-Regis, Stafford, England
Father:
Samuel Cooper
Mother:
Mary Ann Cooper
FHL Film Number: 367784
Reference ID: p 11

1881 11 Ross Rowley Regis
Samuel Cooper Head Mar 52 Carter Born Rowley Regis
Sarah Cooper Wife M 43 Born Rowley Regis
Samuel Cooper Son Unm 19 Gen Lab Born Rowley Regis
Polly Cooper Daur Unm 15 Born Rowley Regis
Dolly Cooper Daur 7 Scholar Born Rowley Regis (I think this is Alice)
William Lowe Lodger Unm 28 Coal Miner Born Rowley Regis

1891 Ross Sheppards Fold Rowley Regis
Samuel Cooper Head Widr Rivet Maker Born Rowley Regis 60
Alice Cooper Daur S 17 Screwer in Nut&Bolt works Born Halesowen
Florrie Cooper G Daur 4 Born Rowley Regis (Daughter of Samuel and Emma)

1901 11 Shepherds Fold Rowley Regis
Samuel Cooper Head Widr 73 Born Blackheath
Joseph Wyle Son in Law M 26 Boot& Shoe Maker Born Blackheath
Alice Wyle Daur M 27 Born Blackheath
Ernest Wyle Grandson 3 Born Blackheath

Rowley Regis
St Giles
Parish Register
Register entry number 110
Marriage date 14 Nov 1875
Samuel COOPER 47 widower Rivet Maker Shepherds Fold James COOPER Rivet Maker
Sarah SMITH 35 widow Bell End Samuel LOWE Roller
Witness 1 James LOWE
Witness 2 Ann LOWE
Notes The bride, groom & both witnesses signed with X

Rowley Regis
St Giles
Parish Register
Register entry number 418
Marriage date 21 Jun 1858
George SMITH 21 bachelor Blacksmith The Throne John SMITH Horn button presser
Sarah LOWE 17 spinster The Throne Samuel LOWE Forgeman
Witness1 Thomas LOWE
Witness2 Isabella LOWE
Notes This Register was damaged in the church fire in 1913 and this page appears to have suffered water and mould damage. The names of both fathers are marked 'faded illegible' and their occupations have been overwritten in a different hand. All details shown here have been confirmed from the BT. Bride, groom and second witness signed by mark.

COOPER, SARAH ANN PORTMAN
GRO Reference: 1859 D Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 8

COOPER, MARY PORTMAN
GRO Reference: 1866 S Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 7

COOPER, SAMUEL PORTMAN
GRO Reference: 1863 J Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 15


Name: Samuel Cooper
Age: 70
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Death Registration Place: Dudley, Staffordshire, United Kingdom
Death Date: Dec 1901
Inferred Death Place: Staffordshire, United Kingdom
Volume: 6c
Page: 12

I am baffled by Alice, she marries as Alice Chatwin

Cradley Heath
St Luke
Other Transcript
Marriage date 25 Aug 1895
Joseph WYLE 20 Boot maker Blackheath Thomas WYLE Rivet maker
Alice CHATWIN 21 Blackheath Samuel CHATWIN Rivet maker
Witness 1 Joseph BRAIN
Witness 2 Annie BOLTON
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Re: Samuel Cooper 1829

Postby Northern Lass » Thu Jul 22, 2021 3:28 pm

I think you are right :wink:
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Re: Samuel Cooper 1829

Postby Northern Lass » Thu Jul 22, 2021 3:30 pm

So Mary ann is Dolly and Alice is Polly

but why would she ..as you say marry as Chatwin do we have Alices birth
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Re: Samuel Cooper 1829

Postby Northern Lass » Thu Jul 22, 2021 3:35 pm

Kdw I am connecting the samuels up age bit out...but you think good to go?

connected here.
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =386856113
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Re: Samuel Cooper 1829

Postby Northern Lass » Thu Jul 22, 2021 3:49 pm

is this sarah Lowe....not sure as so many on bcc
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =153476599

needs more proof.
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Re: Samuel Cooper 1829

Postby Northern Lass » Thu Jul 22, 2021 3:52 pm

brother?

1855
LOWE Thomas SIMPSON Isabella 1855 Rowley Regis, St Giles Sandwell Register Office 18/2/282
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Re: Samuel Cooper 1829

Postby Northern Lass » Thu Jul 22, 2021 3:54 pm

no idea if it is one of these James Lowe in 1875 as witness to Sarahs mar.

1847
LOWE James JACAM Ann 1847 Dudley, St Edmund Dudley Register Office 201/001/181

1853
LOWE James BILLS Ann W 1853 Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/012/224

1863
LOWE James TROWMANS Ann 1863 Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/021/494

1874
LOWE James RODEN Ann 1874 Rowley Regis, St Giles Sandwell Register Office 18/5/22
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Re: Samuel Cooper 1829

Postby Northern Lass » Thu Jul 22, 2021 4:15 pm

and we seem to have a lodgr in 1881
1881 11 Ross Rowley Regis
Samuel Cooper Head Mar 52 Carter Born Rowley Regis
Sarah Cooper Wife M 43 Born Rowley Regis
Samuel Cooper Son Unm 19 Gen Lab Born Rowley Regis
Polly Cooper Daur Unm 15 Born Rowley Regis
Dolly Cooper Daur 7 Scholar Born Rowley Regis (I think this is Alice)
William Lowe Lodger Unm 28 Coal Miner Born Rowley Regis

so are Thomas James and William Lowe brothers to Sarah Lowe?
with a father Samuel

do we have Sarah in 1851
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Re: Samuel Cooper 1829

Postby kdwoodie » Thu Jul 22, 2021 4:16 pm

I am totally confused by this lot, . I've been going in circles all afternoon.
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Re: Samuel Cooper 1829

Postby Northern Lass » Thu Jul 22, 2021 4:17 pm

Northern Lass wrote:brother?

1855
LOWE Thomas SIMPSON Isabella 1855 Rowley Regis, St Giles Sandwell Register Office 18/2/282


Free reg.
Staffordshire Rowley Regis St Giles
04 Nov 1855
Thomas LOWE-age 19-bachelor- occupation Puddler-abode Rounds Green- father Samuel LOWE father occupation Iron roller
Isabella SIMPSON- age 19- spinster- abode Whiteheath Gate-father Joseph SIMPSON- father occupation Labourer
Witness1 Isaac DOWNING
Witness2 Emma DOWNING
Notes All parties signed by mark.


so that looks like brother will add.
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Re: Samuel Cooper 1829

Postby kdwoodie » Thu Jul 22, 2021 4:19 pm

Polly is Mary Ann , Dolly is Alice
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Re: Samuel Cooper 1829

Postby Northern Lass » Thu Jul 22, 2021 4:23 pm

Have we a birth for Alice? on Gro?
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Re: Samuel Cooper 1829

Postby Northern Lass » Thu Jul 22, 2021 4:26 pm

this could be isabella simpson but not sure?
what you think...father is a stonemason on census but lab on mar. which is making me doubt
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Re: Samuel Cooper 1829

Postby kdwoodie » Thu Jul 22, 2021 4:31 pm

Sorry, dinnertime. Will be back later.
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Re: Samuel Cooper 1829

Postby Northern Lass » Thu Jul 22, 2021 4:32 pm

kdwoodie wrote:Sorry, dinnertime. Will be back later.


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