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Can someone help with this mystery pls

On the 1841 there is a Charles Southwick age 1
1841 Census Lower St Tettenhall
William Southwick 25 Bricklayer
Charles Coates 45 Bricklayer
Charles Southwick 1

On the 1851 Charles is down as son age 11 ...son of William Southwick here
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... onnections

I can't find a baptism or GRO ref for this Charles
who is his mother pls

there is this birth
CORNS, CHARLES POWNEY
GRO Reference: 1840 M Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON AND SEISDON Volume 17 Page 405

but he is with parents on 1841 so not Charles Southwick I am after.

Wombourne
Church name St Benedict Biscop
Marriage date 19 Jan 1837
Groom forename Frederick
Groom surname CORNS
Groom condition Bachelor
Bride forename Harriet
Bride surname POWNEY
Bride condition Spinster
Witness1 Thomas SADLER
Witness2 Elizabeth CORNS
Notes Bride and groom signed with an X

Free reg
St Benedict Wombourne
Marriage date 23 Jul 1832
Groom forename John CORNS Bachelor
Bride forename Ann SOUTHWICK Spinster
Witness1 Margaret SOUTHWICK
Witness2 William PYATT
Notes Bride and groom and first witness signed with an X

So Ann is prob sister to Wm Southwick.
Margaret wit at this marriage and Wms is prob the mother to both Ann and Wm (sibs)

so who is Charles Cotes/Coates b abt 1796 father in law in 1851 to Wm

and who does Charles b 1840 belong to ...where is his birth or bapt?

Charles's marriage with witnesses,

Wolverhampton St Peter.
Marriage date 26 Jun 1864.
Charles SOUTHWICK. full age. Bricklayer. Walsall. William SOUTHWICK. Bricklayer.
Fanny BENNETT. full age. Whitemore Reans. Thomas BENNETT. Plasterer.
Witness 1 Charles PRICE.
Witness 2 Eliza BENNETT.

Can you see a birth that fits for Charles Southwick Jimmy?

No I can't see anything even close.

1841 Brockmoor Kingswinford
John Cornes 30 Furnace man
Ann Cornes 25
Ellen Cornes 5 ?
William Cornes 3
Sarchann Cornes 1
Elizabeth Cornes 1 Mth
Next Door
Margret Southwick 50
Mary Southwick 20
Elizabeth Southwick 25
All born in County

kdwoodie wrote:1841 Brockmoor Kingswinford
John Cornes 30 Furnace man
Ann Cornes 25
Ellen Cornes 5 ?
William Cornes 3
Sarchann Cornes 1
Elizabeth Cornes 1 Mth
Next Door
Margret Southwick 50
Mary Southwick 20
Elizabeth Southwick 25
All born in County

so that looks good for John Corns marries Ann Southwick dau of Margaret Toye and James Southwick

CORNS, WILLIAM SOUTHWICK
GRO Reference: 1838 M Quarter in STOURBRIDGE UNION Volume 18 Page 407

but still wondering how Charles southwick connects....was he taken in by Wm and Elizabeth
odd no birth.

kdwoodie wrote:1841 Brockmoor Kingswinford
John Cornes 30 Furnace man
Ann Cornes 25
Ellen Cornes 5 ?
William Cornes 3
Sarchann Cornes 1
Elizabeth Cornes 1 Mth
Next Door
Margret Southwick 50
Mary Southwick 20
Elizabeth Southwick 25
All born in County

Its possible Charles was an illigitimate child of either Margaret, Elizabeth or Mary Southwick but wasn't registered.

I think he is the son of Elizabeth Norton
but will leave it for now thanks for all the help