Hello, looking for help with CASWELL/GUEST Kingswinford 1808

[dcasglas]

Hello from Ireland,
Am delighted to find this forum and hope that someone will be able to help me solve a puzzle with my family tree. Was lucky enough to inherit the family bible which contained a full outline of the CASWELL family tree since 1808. Am looking to go back before that and there are some records on the online sites, but details are not clear, and as I know whats in the family bible since 1808, I know some of the online trees people have created in Ancestry etc. have incorrect details, so its not possible to rely on them.

What I do know for sure is that Joseph CASWELL married Esther (or Hester) GUEST in Kingswinford Parish Church on 5th Sept. 1808. He was a blacksmith, and they had a large family, born in Kingswinford/Brierley Hill or Cradley Heath. The family became heavily involved in the railways and a number of Joseph/Esther's children moved around the UK (Wolverton, London, Preston) before some of them settled in Dublin in Ireland at various stages during the 1800's, all working on the railways, many as boiler-makers. Overall, I am pretty happy with my records from that 1808 period onwards, and my focus is the period before that.

As I live in Ireland, I've only been able to visit the archives in Dudley on one occasion, but when I did, I came across some records that about a Joseph CASWELL that was born in Sedgley around 1781 to parents Henry & Hannah. I think this may be the next link in my family history, but so far, I haven't been able to be definitive about it. Reason for this is that there are a number of other records online for a Joseph CASWELL with a different birth date, normally 1786 or 1789, and/or different parents, and all from the same general area of Sedgley, Cradley Heath and Enville. There are also a number of Joseph CASWELL's in the 1841 census for the area which just adds a bit of further confusion. And as I am unable to visit the archives (even in normal times), I'm stuck with these contradictory online records.

So, I have a bit of a puzzle, which is difficult to solve from afar, on whether I have the correct record or not for Joseph CASWELL's parents or not, and I am hoping that someone will be able to point me in the right direction. If I can definitely establish that my ancestor Joseph's parents were Henry & Hannah CASWELL, this would be brilliant, as I will be able to go back a couple more generations because I found a number of records for these people when I was in Dudley archives.

In a nutshell, am hoping someone can give me some thoughts on how I can locate details for Joseph CASWELL prior to 1808.... many thanks in anticipation.

[gardener]

Hi and welcome

It seems to me that Joseph son of Henry and Hannah is just as likely to be the one that married Hannah Jenkins in 1804.

What do you have to indicate your Joseph's birth year?
I can see him in 1841 I think, aged 55, though obviously that could be rounded down.
Do you have him in 1851? Or his age as stated at death?

[Northern Lass]

Started adding here....can you tell us the children of Joseph and Esther pls and dobs
also if any connections are already on Bcc
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =117979172

[peterd]

poss her




Census 1841 Kingswinford, Staffordshire, England, United Kingdom

Name: Esther Caswell
Age (Original): 13
Birth Year (Estimated): 1828
Birthplace: Staffordshire


Lydia Guest Female 80 Staffordshire
Joseph Caswell Male 55 Staffordshire
Maria Caswell Female 15 Staffordshire
Esther Caswell Female 13 Staffordshire
Morgan Thomas Male 35 Staffordshire



1851 Dudley, Staffordshire, England

Esther Caswell 23
Marital Status: Unmarried
Occupation: Dress Maker
Birth Year (Estimated): 1828
Birthplace: Kingstonford, Staffordshire
Relationship to Head of Household: Wife'S Sister

Thomas Leek Head Male 38 Brewood, Staffordshire
Mary Leek Wife Female 28 Kingswinford, Staffordshire
James Leek Son Male 10 Kingswinford, Staffordshire
Joseph Leek Son Male 3 Dudley, Worcestershire
Esther Caswell Wife'S Sister Female 23 Kingstonford, Staffordshire

[peterd]

poss marriage

Marriages Dec 1839
CASWELL Mary Dudley 18 396
LEEK Thomas Dudley 18 396

[peterd]

might be esther marriage


Marriage 07 May 1854 St Mary, Bilston, Staffordshire, England

Joseph Lee Age: 27 Bilston, Father's Name: Thomas Lee
Esther Caswell: Age:26 Bilston, Father's Name:Joseph Caswell

[peterd]

think this is henry and hannah joseph sedgley



1841 : Abigal Lane, Sedgley, Staffordshire, England

Jos Caswell Mle 50 Staffordshire
Maria Caswell Female 40 Staffordshire
Mary Caswell Female 13 Staffordshire
William Caswell Male 12 Staffordshire
John Caswell Male 8 Staffordshire
Benjn Caswell Male 6 Staffordshire
Ann Caswell Female 4 Staffordshire

[Northern Lass]

I think Joseph remarries
Staffordshire
Place (Links to more information) Sedgley
Church name (Links to more information) All Saints
Register type (Links to more information) Parish Register
Register entry number 378
Marriage date 17 May 1842
Groom forename Joseph
Groom surname CASWELL
Groom age full age
Groom condition Widower
Groom occupation Blacksmith
Groom abode Brierley Hill
Bride forename Mary
Bride surname DAVIES
Bride age full age
Bride condition Widow
Bride abode Brierley Hill
Groom father forename Joseph
Groom father surname CASWELL
Groom father occupation Wheelwright
Bride father forename William
Bride father surname BRETTELL
Bride father occupation Forgeman
Witness1 Joseph PUGH
Witness2 Seth PUGH
Notes All parties sign by mark

[Northern Lass]

free reg
County Staffordshire
Place (Links to more information) Brierley Hill
Church name (Links to more information) St Michael
Register type (Links to more information) Parish Register
Register entry number 233
Burial date 17 Jan 1831
Burial person forename Hester
Relationship wife of
Male relative forename Joseph
Burial person surname CASWELL
Person age 48
Burial person abode Commonside

[Northern Lass]

this could be bapt for Joseph if father is a Joseph
Oldswinford
Church name (Links to more information) St Mary
Baptism date 13 Nov 1788
Person forename Joseph
Person sex M
Father forename Joseph
Mother forename Susanna
Father surname CASWELL

[peterd]

this could be bapt for Joseph if father is a Joseph
Oldswinford
Church name (Links to more information) St Mary
Baptism date 13 Nov 1788
Person forename Joseph
Person sex M
Father forename Joseph
Mother forename Susanna
Father surname CASWELL

he reported dead 1790

Name: Joseph Caswell
Christening:13 Nov 1788 Old Swinford, Worcestershire, England
Male Death Date:13 Apr 1790
Father's Name: Joseph Caswell
Mother's Name: Susanna

[Jimmy]

poss marriage

Marriages Dec 1839
CASWELL Mary Dudley 18 396
LEEK Thomas Dudley 18 396

Dudley St Thomas.
Marriage date 15 Dec 1839.
Thomas LEEK. of full age. bachelor. Stocktaker. Level,Kingswinford. James LEEK. Locksmith. deceased.
Mary CASWELL. minor. spinster. Level,Kingswinford. Joseph. CASWELL. Blacksmith.
Witness 1 Esther PHILLIPS.
Witness 2 Edward HIPKINS.
Notes By Banns-Groom & witnesses signed. Bride marked X.

[Jimmy]

Oldswinford St Mary.
Burial date 13 Apr 1790.
Joseph CASWELL. age 1.

[Jimmy]

Brierley Hill St Michael.
Baptism date 06 Sep 1835.
Esther CASWELL.
Father Joseph CASWELL. The Level, Forgeman.
Mother Mary Anne.

Brierley Hill St Michael.
Baptism date 09 Nov 1823.
Mary CASWELL.
Father Joseph CASWELL. Rowley Regis. Backsmith.
Mother Hester.

[Northern Lass]

So if that marriage for Joseph is correct...his second marriage and I think it is
that means that father for Joseph Caswell who marries Esther/Hester is a Joseph Wheelwright