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Completed. Elizabeth unknown abt 1821 on BCC.

Postby Jimmy » Fri Mar 19, 2021 11:29 am

Elizabeth unknown abt 1821 0n BCC,

https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... ver=526276

Kingswinford St Mary.
Marriage date 28 Dec 1840.
James DAVIES. full age. bachelor. Anvil Maker. Queen's Cross. Edward DAVIES. Vice maker.
Elizabeth WILKINSON. minor. spinster. Queen's Cross. Thomas WILKINSON. Vice Maker.
Witness 1 Edward WILKINSON.
Witness 2 Elizabeth WEBB.
Notes The Bride, Groom & 2nd witness signed with a X.

1861 LLoyds Fields, Rowley Regis.
James Davis Head 42. Vice Maker. Dudley.
Elizabeth Davis Wife 40. Dudley.
Aaron Davis Son 16. Vice Maker.Dudley.
James Davis Son 10 Scholar b. Worcs., Dudley
Mary A Davis Daur 7. Dudley.
George Davis Son 9 Mo. Rowley Regis.

DAVIES, AARON WILKINSON.
GRO Reference: 1845 M Quarter in DUDLEY UNION Volume 18 Page 275.

DAVIES, JAMES WILKINSON.
GRO Reference: 1848 D Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 18 Page 262.

DAVIES, MARY ANN WILKINSON.
GRO Reference: 1853 S Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 99.

DAVIS, GEORGE WILKINSON.
GRO Reference: 1861 J Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 2.
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Re: Elizabeth unknown abt 1821 on BCC.

Postby mallosa » Fri Mar 19, 2021 10:23 pm

Wrong father for James isn't it Jimmy, shouldn't it be Edward? :?

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Re: Elizabeth unknown abt 1821 on BCC.

Postby Jimmy » Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:38 am

Looks like christening is wrong on BCC, should be this one,

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Dudley St Thomas.
Baptism date 28 Feb 1819.
James DAVIES.
Father Edward DAVIES. Vice Maker. Dudley.
Mother Ann.
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Re: Elizabeth unknown abt 1821 on BCC.

Postby Jimmy » Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:47 am

In answer to Jan's question on BCC,

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added by Jan,
Q is her married name Gray? looks like her dau with her on the 1841 so was she prev married to a Charles Gray- then there is a marriage for an Elizabeth Morris to a Charles Grey in 1838 I think that is her
MARY ELIZABETH GRAY Birth: 17 MAR 1839
Christening: 24 APR 1839 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Parents: Father: CHARLES GRAY Mother: ELIZA Extracted.

GRAY, MARY ELIZABETH MORRIS.
GRO Reference: 1839 J Quarter in DUDLEY UNION Volume 18 Page 262.

1841 Church St., Dudley.
James Davies 20 Vice Maker b. in county.
Betsey Davies 20 b. in county.
Mary Elizh Gray 3 b. in county.

Dudley St Thomas.
Marriage date 13 Jun 1838.
Charles GRAY. of full age. bachelor. Spirit Dealer. High Street, Dudley. Sheldon GRAY. Spirit Dealer.
Eliza MORRIS. minor. spinster. abode Dixons Green. Joseph MORRIS. Maltster.
Witness 1 Joseph MORRIS.
Witness 2 Hannah MORRIS.
Notes Witness (3) Ann MORRIS (4) Mary Ann WRIGHT. By License-Groom Bride & witnesses signed.
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Re: Elizabeth unknown abt 1821 on BCC.

Postby Northern Lass » Sun Mar 21, 2021 7:09 am

MARY ELIZABETH GRAY Birth: 17 MAR 1839
Christening: 24 APR 1839 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Parents: Father: CHARLES GRAY Mother: ELIZA Extracted birth

and
CHARLES GRAY
Spouse: ELIZA MORRIS
Marriage: 13 JUN 1838 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, Extracted

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Re: Elizabeth unknown abt 1821 on BCC.

Postby Northern Lass » Sun Mar 21, 2021 7:32 am

Ok ...so where is the marriage of James Davies to Elizabeth Grey

is there one?

and the 1841 with Betsy Davies and James Davies isnt the one who marries Elizabeth Wilkinson?

<b>1841 Church St., Dudley</b>
James Davies 20 Vice Maker b. in county
Betsey Davies 20 b. in county
Mary Elizh Gray 3 b. in county

and so....where is James Davies who married Elizabeth Wilkinson in 1841 census
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Re: Elizabeth unknown abt 1821 on BCC.

Postby Northern Lass » Sun Mar 21, 2021 7:37 am

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Re: Elizabeth unknown abt 1821 on BCC.

Postby Northern Lass » Sun Mar 21, 2021 7:58 am

Ok So I am confused...

1841 a James Davies is with a Betsy....so that is not this one
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =120238193
the one in 1841 has a Mary Gray with them so is this one

https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =139357104
as mother there is a morris (eliza Morris) who prev married Charles Grey

so where is death of Charles?
Where is the James Davies who marries Wilkinson on 1841
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Re: Elizabeth unknown abt 1821 on BCC.

Postby Northern Lass » Sun Mar 21, 2021 8:01 am

Deaths Jun 1840
Gray Charles Dudley 18 218

maybe not
GRAY, CHARLES 0
GRO Reference: 1840 J Quarter in DUDLEY UNION Volume 18 Page 218

looks like son
GRAY, CHARLES MORRIS
GRO Reference: 1840 J Quarter in DUDLEY UNION Volume 18 Page 258

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Place (Links to more information) Dudley
Church name (Links to more information) St Thomas
Register type (Links to more information) Unspecified
Register entry number 956
Burial date 20 May 1840
Burial person forename Charles
Burial person surname GRAY
Person age 5w
Burial person abode Dudley
Notes Died 15 May
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Re: Elizabeth unknown abt 1821 on BCC.

Postby Northern Lass » Sun Mar 21, 2021 8:13 am

Could it be that Mary Elizabeth Gray is just visiting
James Davies and his wife Elizabeth Wilkinson in 1841
1841 Church St., Dudley.
James Davies 20 Vice Maker b. in county.
Betsey Davies 20 b. in county.
Mary Elizh Gray 3 b. in county.
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Re: Elizabeth unknown abt 1821 on BCC.

Postby Northern Lass » Sun Mar 21, 2021 8:39 am

I think mary Elizabeth Gray is just visiting on 1841 and is here in 1851

1851 Spindle Terrace Dudley
Charles Gray head mar 33 Auctioneer b Walsall
Eliza Gray wife 32 b Oldbury?
Mary E Gray dau 12 Scholar b Dudley
Rhoda Mucklow servant unmarried 17 General Servant b Birmingham
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Re: Elizabeth unknown abt 1821 on BCC.

Postby Jimmy » Sun Mar 21, 2021 12:38 pm

Northern Lass wrote:I think mary Elizabeth Gray is just visiting on 1841 and is here in 1851

1851 Spindle Terrace Dudley
Charles Gray head mar 33 Auctioneer b Walsall
Eliza Gray wife 32 b Oldbury?
Mary E Gray dau 12 Scholar b Dudley
Rhoda Mucklow servant unmarried 17 General Servant b Birmingham



1841. Torton, Harlebury, Worcs.
John Ginks 50. Builder.
Mary Ginks 35.
Richard Ginks 20. Miller.
John Hopcroft 30. Lawyer.
James Hales 35. Servant.
Samuel Jones 30. Servant.
John Bowler 20. Servant.
William Southall 20. Servant.
Shadrick Jackson 15. Servant.
George Wood 15. Servant.
Mary Oakey 20. Servant.
Charles Gray 20. Auctioneer. b.i.c.
Eliza Gray 20. b.i.c.
Sarah Deiley 20. Servant.
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Re: Elizabeth unknown abt 1821 on BCC.

Postby Jimmy » Sun Mar 21, 2021 12:46 pm

Dudley St Andrews.
Marriage date 02 May 1854.
John BROWN. 23. Dudley. bachelor. Maltster. John BROWN. Maltster.
Mary Elizabeth GRAY. age 15. Dudley. spinster. Charles GRAY. Auctioneer.
Witness 1 Joseph NANES.
Witness 2 Hannah PRICE.
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Re: Elizabeth unknown abt 1821 on BCC.

Postby Northern Lass » Sun Mar 28, 2021 7:05 am

Is this now completed?
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Re: Elizabeth unknown abt 1821 on BCC.

Postby Jimmy » Sun Mar 28, 2021 7:08 am

Yes Jan.
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