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Thomas Abbey & wife Ann (Unknown)

Postby mallosa » Sun Dec 20, 2020 7:25 pm

Can we find a marriage for Thomas & Ann......

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Re: Thomas Abbey & wife Ann (Unknown)

Postby mumbles » Sun Dec 20, 2020 10:20 pm

Children registered as mother Huggins
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Re: Thomas Abbey & wife Ann (Unknown)

Postby mallosa » Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:26 pm

Thanks Mumbles, still can't find a marriage :?
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Re: Thomas Abbey & wife Ann (Unknown)

Postby Jimmy » Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:10 am

I can't see a marriage but it looks like this one age varies through census's.

HUGGINS, ANN WORLEY.
GRO Reference: 1849 D Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 18 Page 561.

1901. 19, Birmingham Road, Oldbury, Worcs.
Ann Abbey 52. widow. West Bromwich.
John Abbey 33. West Bromwich.
William Abbey 20.
Robert Abbey 18.
James Abbey 16.
Samuel Abbey 12.
Arthur Abbey 8.

Others born Oldbury.

1911. 19 Birmingham Road, Oldbury.
Ann Abbey 62. Widow.
Robert Abbey 30.
Maria Abbey 27..
Ann Abbey 6.
Clara Abbey 5.
Thomas Abbey 2.
Arthur Abbey 19.
Ethel Abbey 13.
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Re: Thomas Abbey & wife Ann (Unknown)

Postby Jimmy » Mon Dec 21, 2020 12:13 pm

The only marriage I can see for Ann Huggins is,

Staffordshire Tipton.
Marriage date 08 Apr 1867.
Charles STEEL. 22. bachelor. Labourer. Tipton. Levi STEEL. Labourer.
Ann HUGGINS. 19. spinster. Tipton. William HUGGINS. Labourer.
Witness 1 Daniel BENNETT.
Witness 2 Kesiah BENBOW.
Notes Groom, bride and witness 2 sign by mark.

1851. West Bromwich.
William Huggins 34. labourer. Abington, Buckinghamshire.
Ann Huggins 44. Tipton.
Sarah Huggins 15.
George Huggins 12.
William Huggins 4.
James Huggins 4.
Ann Huggins 1.
Silas Grice 21. lodger.
Mary Grice 20.
Luke Grice 1.

Others born West Bromwich.
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Re: Thomas Abbey & wife Ann (Unknown)

Postby mallosa » Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:55 pm

Jimmy wrote:The only marriage I can see for Ann Huggins is,

Staffordshire Tipton.
Marriage date 08 Apr 1867.
Charles STEEL. 22. bachelor. Labourer. Tipton. Levi STEEL. Labourer.
Ann HUGGINS. 19. spinster. Tipton. William HUGGINS. Labourer.
Witness 1 Daniel BENNETT.
Witness 2 Kesiah BENBOW.
Notes Groom, bride and witness 2 sign by mark.

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John Steel Abbey
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: 33
Event Type: Marriage
Birth Year: abt 1873
Marriage 3 Jun 1906 Glodwick, St Mark, Lancashire
Father: Thomas Abbey
Spouse: Clara Pybus
Reference Number: L47/1/2/3
Archive Roll: 584

1911 Census: 38 Avon St Oldham, Lancashire
John Steel Abbey 40 Head marr 5 yrs Labourer At Corporation Birth Place: West Bromwich, Staffordshire
Clara S Abbey 31 Wife born Calver, Derbyshire - children 3/3/-
Emily Ann S Abbey 4 Dau Oldham, Lancashire
Sarah S Abbey 2 Dau Oldham, Lancashire
Jack S Abbey 11 mths Son Oldham, Lancashire

:roll: am I clutching at straws here?
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Re: Thomas Abbey & wife Ann (Unknown)

Postby Jimmy » Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:20 am

1881 : 8, Inkerman Street, Oldbury, Worcs
Thomas Abbey, Head, 35, Shoe Maker, Born in Northampton
Ann Abbey, Wife, 36, Born in West Bromwich
Silas Abbey, Son, 9, Born in West Bromwich
John Abbey, Son, 13, Scholar
Frederick Abbey, Son, 3
William Abbey, Son, 1
Others Born in Oldbury

This looks like the one,

STEEL, JOHN HUGINS.
GRO Reference: 1868 J Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 06B Page 728.
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Re: Thomas Abbey & wife Ann (Unknown)

Postby Jimmy » Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:20 pm

1871. Wolverhampton.
Thomas Halby. could be Abbey on image, Shoemaker. NOT MARRIED.
Age: 26.
Estimated Birth Year: 1845.
Relation: Lodger.
Where born: Northampton.
Civil Parish: Wolverhampton.
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Wolverhampton
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Registration District: Wolverhampton
Sub-registration District: Wolverhampton Eastern
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Household Schedule Number: 47
Piece: 2937
Folio: 92
Page Number: 10
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Re: Thomas Abbey & wife Ann (Unknown)

Postby Jimmy » Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:49 pm

mallosa wrote:
John Steel Abbey
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: 33
Event Type: Marriage
Birth Year: abt 1873
Marriage 3 Jun 1906 Glodwick, St Mark, Lancashire
Father: Thomas Abbey
Spouse: Clara Pybus
Reference Number: L47/1/2/3
Archive Roll: 584.

1911 Census: 38 Avon St Oldham, Lancashire
John Steel Abbey 40 Head marr 5 yrs Labourer At Corporation Birth Place: West Bromwich, Staffordshire
Clara S Abbey 31 Wife born Calver, Derbyshire - children 3/3/-
Emily Ann S Abbey 4 Dau Oldham, Lancashire
Sarah S Abbey 2 Dau Oldham, Lancashire
Jack S Abbey 11 mths Son Oldham, Lancashire

:roll: am I clutching at straws here?



ABBEY, EMILY ANN STEEL PYBUS.
GRO Reference: 1906 D Quarter in OLDHAM Volume 08D Page 646.

ABBEY, SARAH STEEL PYBUS.
GRO Reference: 1908 J Quarter in OLDHAM Volume 08D Page 707.

ABBEY, JACK STEEL PYBUS.
GRO Reference: 1910 J Quarter in OLDHAM Volume 08D Page 677.

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John Steel Abbey. 33. bachelor. labourer. Thomas Abbey. shoemaker. deceased.
Clara Pybus. 26. spinster. William Pybus. carter. deceased.
Marriage Date: 3 Jun 1906.
Marriage Place: Glodwick, St Mark, Lancashire.
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Re: Thomas Abbey & wife Ann (Unknown)

Postby Jimmy » Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:59 pm

I still can't see a marriage,

1911 census says she had 12 children, 5 died.

ABBEY, SILAS HUGGINS.
GRO Reference: 1875 S Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 06B Page 778. Died 1907 age 31.

ABBEY, THOMAS HUGGINS.
GRO Reference: 1874 M Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 06B Page 793. Died 1878 age 4.

ABBEY, FREDERICK CHARLES HUGGINS.
GRO Reference: 1877 S Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 06B Page 750.

ABBEY, WILLIAM HUGGINS.
GRO Reference: 1879 D Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 06B Page 721.

ABBEY, FREDERICK CHARLES HUGGINS.
GRO Reference: 1877 S Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 06B Page 750.

ABBEY, ROBERT HUGGINS.
GRO Reference: 1881 D Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 06B Page 745.

ABBEY, JAMES HUGGINS.
GRO Reference: 1884 J Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 06B Page 835.

ABBEY, GEORGE HUGGINS
GRO Reference: 1886 J Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 06B Page 820. Died age 0.

ABBEY, HENRY HUGGINS.
GRO Reference: 1886 J Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 06B Page 820. Died age 0.

ABBEY, SAMUEL HUGGINS.
GRO Reference: 1889 M Quarter in WESTBROMWICH Volume 06B Page 779.

ABBEY, ARTHUR HUGGINS.
GRO Reference: 1892 M Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 06B Page 788.
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Re: Thomas Abbey & wife Ann (Unknown)

Postby Jimmy » Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:52 pm

1939. 38 Avon St Oldham, Lancashire.
John Steel-Abbey 12 Apr 1868. 71. Superintendent General Labourer.
Clara Steel-Abbey 9 Jan 1880. 59.
Clara Steel-Abbey Jr 5 Feb 1919. 20. Cotton Spinner.
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Re: Thomas Abbey & wife Ann (Unknown)

Postby Jimmy » Tue Dec 22, 2020 4:04 pm

I can't see anything for Charles and Ann Steel or son John in 1871 census.
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Re: Thomas Abbey & wife Ann (Unknown)

Postby mallosa » Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:17 pm

me neither Jimmy but I think we've got enough for now :wink:

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