Robert FOWKES (b.1833)& Joseph FOWKES (b.1836)

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Robert FOWKES (b.1833)& Joseph FOWKES (b.1836)

Postby nugentsmith » Tue Dec 08, 2020 9:44 pm

There is a connection between Robert Fowkes (b.1833) and Joseph Fowkes (b.1836) – they were brothers and their parents were Richard FOWKES (b.1797 in Croft, Leicestershire) and Sarah PARSONS (b.1800 in Rowley Regis), who married in 1824:
Marriage on Ancestry.com – Richard FIEWKES and Sarah PARSONS; 6 September 1824; Rowley Regis.

Census 1841: HO107/1148/8/42/29 - Bordesley, Warwickshire
Richard FOULKES 35 Scavinger N
Sarah 40 N
Thos Foulkes 15 N
Phillis Do. 10 N
Robert Do. 9 Y
Joseph Do. 3 Y
Sarah 3 months Y

Joseph was born in Birmingham in 1837:
GRO: FOWKES, JOSEPH PARSONS Ref: 1837 D Quarter in BIRMINGHAM Volume 16 Page 253
Certificate: B/1837/Birmingham/St Peter Birmingham/98 - reg 11/10/1837; DoB 27/9/1837
Joseph son of Richard Fowkes, Labourer, and Sarah Fowkes, formerly Parsons, born on 27/9/1837 in Birmingham. Informant was Sarah Fowkes, Mother, 7 Court, 3 House, Wood Street, Birmingham.
(Details of the St Peter registration district in the 1841 Census indicate that Wood Street was in the area of Moor Street/Park Street/Bull Ring, and so close to Bordesley.)

Joseph is identified as Richard’s son in the 1851 and 1861 Censuses:

Census 1851: HO107/1148/8/42/29 - Bordesley, Warwickshire
Richard FOWKES Head Mar 50 Ag Labourer Born Croft, Leicestershire
Sarah do. Wife Mar 51 Born Rowley Regis
Thomas do. Son U Striker for Chain maker Born do.
Ann do. Daur U 20 Umbrella Maker Born Oldbury
Joseph do. Son 13 Striker for Chain Maker Born Birmingham
Elizabeth do. Grand dau born out of wedlock 1mo. Born Cradley
Mary Ann Weaver Lodger Mar 29 Trace Maker Born Rowley Regis
Robert do. Lodger 4 Born do.

Census 1861: RG9/2064/11/16 Sch 84, 85 and 86 - Rock Row, Cradley (One house)
Sch 84 Richard FOWKES Head Mar 61 Agricultural Labourer Born Croft, Leicestershire
Sarah do. Wife Mar 62 Born Rowley
Sch 85 Joseph FOWKES Head 23 Chain maker Born Birmingham
Emma do. Wife Mar 21 Nailer Born Cradley
Richard BATE Son 1 Born Cradley
Sch 86 Hannah FAWKHALL Lodger Un 21 Nailer Born Dudley
Matilda do. Dau 1 Born Cradley

Robert was born in Birmingham in 1832:
Ancestry image: Baptisms/1832/St John the Baptist, Deritend/Page 33/No.263
Baptism on 19th August 1832 of Robert son of Richard and Sarah FOWKES of Saltley Street; father a Bricklayer.

Robert’ marriage certificate provides a connection to Richard:

GRO ref: M/1853/SEP/Dudley/6c/141
Certificate: M/1853/Rowley Regis Parish Church/No. 149 - 21 August 1853
Marriage on 21st August 1853 of Robert FOWKES, 21, Bachelor, Trace maker of Waterfall Lane and Martha EDWARDS, 18, Spinster of Waterfall Lane. Both mark X.
Fathers: Richard Fowkes, a Labourer; Thomas Edwards, a Scythesmith.
Witnesses: Thpmas Smith (signed); Hannah Price (X).
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Re: Robert FOWKES (b.1833) and Joseph FOWKES (b.1836) on BCC

Postby Northern Lass » Wed Dec 09, 2020 10:14 am

adding to bcc

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marriage on free reg
County Staffordshire
Place Rowley Regis
Church name St Giles
Register type Other Transcript
Marriage date 06 Sep 1824
Groom forename Richard
Groom surname FOWKES
Bride forename Sarah
Bride surname PARSONS
Witness1 Thomas PERRY
Witness2 James HINGLEY
Notes Groom & Bride sign X
File line number 1707
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Re: Robert FOWKES (b.1833) and Joseph FOWKES (b.1836) on BCC

Postby Northern Lass » Wed Dec 09, 2020 10:20 am

Does anyone have the Rowley regis marriage transcripts just to check the free reg one pls
I can't find mine.
Richard Fowkes 6 sept 1824 rowley regis
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Re: Robert FOWKES (b.1833) and Joseph FOWKES (b.1836) on BCC

Postby Northern Lass » Wed Dec 09, 2020 10:30 am

What age is thomas pls anyone on census
Census 1851: HO107/1148/8/42/29 - Bordesley, Warwickshire
Richard FOWKES Head Mar 50 Ag Labourer Born Croft, Leicestershire
Sarah " Wife Mar 51 Born Rowley Regis
Thomas ". Son U Striker for Chain maker Born do.
Ann ". Daur U 20 Umbrella Maker Born Oldbury
Joseph " Son 13 Striker for Chain Maker Born Birmingham
Elizabeth ". Grand dau born out of wedlock 1mo. Born Cradley
Mary Ann Weaver Lodger Mar 29 Trace Maker Born Rowley Regis
Robert " Lodger 4 Born do.
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Re: Robert FOWKES (b.1833) and Joseph FOWKES (b.1836) on BCC

Postby Northern Lass » Wed Dec 09, 2020 10:43 am

anyone got this marriage pls
BATE Emma FOWKES Joseph 1860 Cradley, St Peter Dudley Register Office 013/001/143
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Re: Robert FOWKES (b.1833) and Joseph FOWKES (b.1836) on BCC

Postby nugentsmith » Wed Dec 09, 2020 11:03 am

Age of Thomas on 1851 Census is 24.
I have more on Thomas - shall I post?
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Re: Robert FOWKES (b.1833) and Joseph FOWKES (b.1836) on BCC

Postby nugentsmith » Wed Dec 09, 2020 11:10 am

Richard is also on 1871 Census with Joseph:

Census 1871 RG10/3019/80/18 and 19 - High Town Cradley
Joseph FOWKES Head Mar 33 Chain Striker Born Birm
Emma do. Wife Mar 30 Born Cradley
Richard do. Father Wdr 74 Labourer Born Leicester
Richard do. Son 11 Striker
Jane do. Daur 9 Scholar
Eliza do. Daur 6 do.
William Fowkes Son 4 Scholar
Benjamin do. Son 6wk
Daniel GROVE Boarder Mar 69 Chain Maker Born Rowley
Eliza do. Boarder Mar 65
Others born Cradley.
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Re: Robert FOWKES (b.1833) and Joseph FOWKES (b.1836) on BCC

Postby rockyfowler » Wed Dec 09, 2020 5:08 pm

St Giles Rowley Regis
6 Sep 1824
Richard FOWKES otp Bach Sarah PARSONS otp Spin By Banns The X Of Both Wit; Thomas Perry /James Hingley

143 2 Apr 1860 St Peter Cradley
Joseph FOWKES 23 B Nailer Cradley Father Richard Fowkes Labourer
Emma BATE 20 S Cradley Father (Blank)
After Banns The X Of Both
Wit; Joseph Edwards X / Martha Fowkes X
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Re: Robert FOWKES (b.1833) and Joseph FOWKES (b.1836) on BCC

Postby Northern Lass » Thu Dec 10, 2020 9:40 am

Thanks will sticky and try and add some

nugentsmith post what you wish but might not get added to bcc
but any connections you spot as you have done are brill thanks.
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Re: Robert FOWKES (b.1833)& Joseph FOWKES (b.1836) Nl adding

Postby nugentsmith » Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:35 am

Thanks, NL. I understand the issue of work load for new information. I will look out for connections and be as brief as possible!
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