*ARC TBC* Mary KING(S) b. abt 1853 Belbroughton

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*ARC TBC* Mary KING(S) b. abt 1853 Belbroughton

Postby Rob G » Tue Aug 11, 2020 11:49 am

Mary was the daughter of Thomas CRUMP(sometimes CRUMPTON/CROMPTON) - wonder why she took her mother's family name?

She married Charles PERRY 24 Nov 1890 at St Luke's Reddal Hill - He had been married previously to Emma JONES (St Thomas Dudley 1863) with whom he had several children, the last born in 1882. However, the four children Charles PERRY had with Mary KING were b. 1872/75/79/81, so was he living a double life?

It's possible that Mary KING could also have been married previously, but have not found evidence so far.

feedback welcome.
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Re: Mary KING(S) b. abt 1853 Belbroughton

Postby kdwoodie » Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:20 pm

I dont think Mary was previously Married although she states widow on marriage cert

KING, MARY -
GRO Reference: 1853 S Quarter in BROMSGROVE Volume 06C Page 337

Name:
Mary King
Event Type:
Christening
Event Date:
10 Sep 1853
Belbroughton, Worcester, England
Gender:
Female
Mother's Name:
Sarah King

Freereg
County Staffordshire
Cradley Heath
St Luke
Marriage date
24 Nov 1890
Charles PERRY 50 widower Nail maker Fox Oak Street Charles PERRY Nail maker
Mary KING 39 widow Fox Oak Street Thomas CROMPTON Collier
Witness 1 William ALLEN
Witness 2 Sarah PERRY

Family Search
Thomas Crump
Event Type:
Marriage
Event Date:
18 Nov 1855
Event Place:
Old Swinford, Worcestershire, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original):
Old Swinford, Worcester, England
Gender:
Male
Spouse's Name:
Sarah King
Spouse's Gender:
Female

1861 Staplehill Bromsgrove
Thomas Crump Head Mar 33 Naiilor Born Bromsgrove
Sarah Crump Wife Mar 50 Seemstress Born Belbroughton
Mary Kings Daughter in Law 7 Born Bromsgrove

1871 Barley Mow Lane Bromsgrove
Thomas Crump Head Mar 50 Labourer Born Bromsgrove
Sarah Crump Wife Mar 62 Tailoress Born Bromsgrove
Mary Crump[Mary Kings] Daur Unm 18 Nialor Born Bromsgrove

1881 Birmingham Street Brook Road Halesowen
Mary King[Mary Crumpton] Head Unmarried 28 Nailor Born Belbroughton
Hernest J. King Son 8 Scholar Born Bromsgrove
Mary M. King Daur 6 Scholar Born Halesowen
Ellen M. King Daur 2 Born Halesowen
Sarah Crumpton Mother Widow 75 Born Belbroughton

1891 Islington Halesowen
Charles Perry Head M 50 Nailer Born Lye
Mary Perry Wife M 38 Born Bromsgrove
Charles Perry Son S 17 Nailer Born Halesowen
Alice Perry Daur S 14 Nailer Born Halesowen
Major Perry Son S 13 Nailer Born Halesowen
Emma Perry Daur 11 Scholar Born Halesowen
Leah Perry Daur 9 Scholar Born Halesowen
Ellen Waria King Step Daur 13Scholar Born Halesowen
Clara J King Step Daur 10 Scholar Born Halesowen
Sarah Crumpton Mother in Law Wid 85 Born Bromsgrove


KINGS, ERNEST JOHN -
GRO Reference: 1872 S Quarter in BROMSGROVE Volume 06C Page 391

Name: Ernest John King
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 9 Dec 1872
Baptism Place: Halesowen,Worcester,England
Mother: Mary King
FHL Film Number: 886635, 886636, 886638

Can't see a birth for Mary M
KINGS, MARY JANE KINGS
GRO Reference: 1877 D Quarter in BROMSGROVE Volume 06C Page 397

Can't find a birth for Ellen

KING, CLARA JANE -
GRO Reference: 1881 J Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 156

CHARLES PERRY
Name:
Charles Perry
Event Type:
Marriage
Event Date:
6 Apr 1863
Event Place:
Saint Thomas's Church, Dudley, Worcestershire, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original):
Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England
Gender:
Male
Spouse's Name:
Emma Jones
Spouse's Gender:
Female

1871 6 Park Lane Birmingham
Charle Perry Head Mar 30 Nailor Born Stourbridge
Emma Perry Wife Mar 30 Nailor Born Stourbridge
Mary Perry Daur 4 Born Swinford
Eliza Perry Daur 3 Born Birmingham
Annie M Perry Daur 1 Born Birmingham
Henry Jones Lodger Unm 31 Nailor Born Stourbridge
Thomas Bashford Lodger Unm 22 Nailor Born Stourbridge
John Pritchett Lodger Unm 30 Nailor Born Stourbridge
Thomas Dancer Lodger Unm 44 Rag Gatherer Born Stourbridge

1881 Islington Halesowen
Charles Perry Head Mar 41 Nail Forger Born Lye
Emma Perry Wife Mar 40 Nail Forger Born Bristol
Mary Perry Daur Unm 15 Nail Forger Born Bristol
Eliza Perry Daur Unm 14 Nail Forger Born Halesowen
Annie Perry Daur Unm 12 Nurse Dom Born Halesowen
Charles Perry Son 8 Scholar Born Halesowen
Sarah Perry Daur 6 Scholar Born Halesowen
Alice Perry Daur 4 Scholar Born Halesowen
Major Perry Son 2 Born Halesowen
Emma Perry Daur 1 Born Halesowen

Name:
Mary Perry
Event Type:
Christening
Event Date:
12 Feb 1873
Event Place:
Halesowen, Worcestershire, England, United Kingdom
Gender:
Female
Father's Name:
Charles Perry
Mother's Name:
Emma

Name:
Eliza Perry
Event Type:
Christening
Event Date:
12 Feb 1873
Event Place:
Halesowen, Worcester, England
Gender:
Female
Father's Name:
Charles Perry
Mother's Name:
Emma

Name:
Annie Matilda Perry
Event Type:
Christening
Event Date:
12 Feb 1873
Event Place:
Halesowen, Worcester, England
Gender:
Female
Father's Name:
Charles Perry
Mother's Name:
Emma

PERRY, CHARLES JONES
GRO Reference: 1873 D Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 221

PERRY, SARAH JONES
GRO Reference: 1875 J Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 157

PERRY, ALICE JONES
GRO Reference: 1877 M Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 185

PERRY, MAJOR JONES
GRO Reference: 1878 D Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 163

PERRY, EMMA JONES
GRO Reference: 1880 M Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 160

PERRY, LEAH JONES
GRO Reference: 1882 S Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 137

Name: Emma Perry
Estimated birth year: abt 1841
Registration Year: 1888
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 47
Registration district: Stourbridge
Inferred County: Worcestershire
Volume: 6c
Page: 74
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Re: Mary KING(S) b. abt 1853 Belbroughton

Postby Rob G » Sun Aug 16, 2020 10:05 am

Thanks for the comprehensive reply.

Any idea why Chas Perry & Mary King(s) children would take Mary's surname and not Perry?
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Re: Mary KING(S) b. abt 1853 Belbroughton

Postby kdwoodie » Sun Aug 16, 2020 10:30 am

I maybe wrong but unless a DNA test is done i don't see how you can prove that Marys children are the children of Charles.

They were all born before they were married.
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Re: Mary KING(S) b. abt 1853 Belbroughton

Postby kdwoodie » Sun Aug 16, 2020 4:24 pm

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Re: Mary KING(S) b. abt 1853 Belbroughton

Postby grangers14 » Mon Aug 17, 2020 7:47 pm

Is this ok to archive now Rob?
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Re: *ARC TBC* Mary KING(S) b. abt 1853 Belbroughton

Postby Rob G » Mon Aug 24, 2020 5:44 pm

Yes no problem, please go ahead and archive
Thanks for help!
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