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Grice/Billingham connection..Mally sorting

Postby mallosa » Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:57 pm

I don't know where I'm going with this but here goes....

Jesse Billingham born 1829 is the brother of Gideon Billingham born 1821

here - https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... ver=474681

1851 Census: Salutation Inn, Rowley Regis
Thomas Grice 37 Head Iron Fitter & Publican Bilston, Staffs
Ann Grice 35 Wife
Hannah Grice 10 Dau
Ellen Grice 9 Dau
William Grice 8 Dau
Thomas Grice 5 Son
Sarah Grice 2 Dau
Jesse Billingham 22 Brother in Law Chain Maker
(others born Rowley Regis)

no Thomas..... :?
1861 Census: New Pool, Rowley Regis
Ann Grice 44 Head marr
Hannah Grice 20 Dau
Eleanor Grice 19 Dau
Thomas Grice 15 Son
Sarah Grice 12 Dau

NOTE: Ann's brother Jesse Billingham & wife Maria are living next door

England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Thomas Grice
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 1839
Marriage Place: West Bromwich, Stafford
Father: Moses Grice
Spouse: Ann Billingham
FHL Film Number: 1526219
Reference ID: 2:3QPZDBW
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Re: Grice/Billingham connection

Postby kdwoodie » Sun Oct 20, 2019 10:18 am

THE LONDON GAZETTE, MARCH 5, 1861.
COURT FOR RELIEF OF INSOLVENT
DEBTORS.
Thomas Grice, late of the Five Ways, Cradley Heath, in
the parish of Rowley Regis, in the county of Stafford,
Licensed Victualler, keeping the Salutation Inn, and also
carrying on the trade of a Grocer, at Bloom field, in the
parish of Tipton, in the county aforesaid.

England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name: Ann Billingham
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 1839
Marriage Place: West Bromwich, Stafford, Eng.
Father: Jeremiah Billingham
Spouse: Thomas Grice
FHL Film Number: 1526219
Reference ID: 2:3QPZDBW

1841 Four Ways Rowley Regis
Thomas Grice 27 Forgeman
Ann Grice 25
Hannah Grice 1
All Born in County

England, Select Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991
Name: Ann Grice
Gender: Female
Age: 50
Birth Date: 1817
Burial Date: 17 Jan 1867
Burial Place: Stafford Co., England
FHL Film Number: 1470777
Reference ID: p 310

England, Select Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991
Name: Thomas Grice
Estimated birth year: abt 1814
Registration Year: 1870
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 56
Registration district: Dudley
Parishes for this Registration District: Search for Dudley in the London Times
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6c
Page: 4

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Jesse Billingham is Ann's Brother

Name: Jesse Billingham
Gender: Male
Age: Full
Marriage Date: 4 Mar 1857
Marriage Place: Birmingham, St Martin, Warwickshire, England
Parish as it Appears: Birmingham, St Martin
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Father: Jeremiah Billingham
Spouse: Maria Attwood Father Isaac Attwood Coal Agent
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Re: Grice/Billingham connection

Postby kdwoodie » Sun Oct 20, 2019 12:38 pm

From blackcountry history.org
Mortgage Ref No: DSCAM/2/3/14/34
Date: 24 March 1862
Description: Mortgage by Thomas Grice of Cradley Heath, parish of Rowley Regis, Staffs., lately a victualler but now out of business and Ann his wife, and of Hannah Grice of the same, spinster, Eleanor Grice of the same, spinster (a minor), Thomas Grice the younger of the same (a minor) Sarah Grice of the same, spinster (a minor) [minors to execute deed on coming of age], to Gideon Billingham of Cradley Heath, chain manufacturer and CharlesMason of the Five Ways, Cradley Heath, butcher, of 926sq. yds of land at Cradley Heath, parish of Rowley Regis, and the Salutation Inn and related buildings and 2 other messuages erected thereupon, subject to a prior mortgage of 5 Feb. 1862 to William Whitmore for 200, to secure 63 and interest. Attached certificate of acknowledgment by a married woman.
Level: Item
Technique: Manuscript
For more information contact: Dudley Archives

HITCHMOUGH’S
BLACK COUNTRY PUBS
Lomey Town
SALUTATION
5, Lower High Street, (1, Lomey Town), Five Ways, CRADLEY HEATH
OWNERS
Julia Hanson and Son Ltd. [1908]
LICENSEES
Jeremiah Billingham [1833] – [1842]
Thomas Grice [1849] – [1860]
Stourbridge Observer 5/11/1870
“A man named Thomas Grice succeeded on Monday last, in committing suicide.
Some time back he was seized with a kind of stroke, and since then has been mentally affected. He went upstairs
on Monday, and after placing his head in a noose made of some blind-string, he rolled off the bed, and was strangled.
His son called him, but received no answer, and on proceeding upstairs found his father in part lying on the floor,
with his head in the string. He immediately cut the string and Dr. Standish was fetched. On examination, he
pronounced him quite dead.
An inquest was held on Thursday, at the SALUTATION INN, before Mr. Hooper, Coroner, and the jury returned a
verdict that deceased Committed Suicide, while in a state of Temporary Insanity.”
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Re: Grice/Billingham connection

Postby kdwoodie » Sun Oct 20, 2019 1:16 pm

This is getting complicated.

Thomas Grice the son of Thomas and Ann married Charlotte Price
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... ver=474743

Possible Baptism
Name: Thomas Grice
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 7 Sep 1845
Baptism Place: Reddall-Hill, Stafford, England
Father: Thomas Grice
Mother: Anne
FHL Film Number: 1470776
Reference ID: item 1 p 7

England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name:Thomas Grice
Gender:Male
Marital status:Single
Age:24
Birth Date:1846
Marriage Date:5 Apr 1870
Marriage Place:Dudley, Worcester, England
Father:Thomas Grice
Spouse:Charlotte Price
FHL Film Number:1470600 Reference ID:Item 1 en#397 p 199

Name:Charlotte Price
Gender:Female
Marital status:Single
Age:23
Birth Date:1847
Marriage Date:5 Apr 1870
Marriage Place:Dudley, Worcester, England
Father:Peter Price
Spouse:Thomas Grice
FHL Film Number:1470600 Reference ID:Item 1 en#397 p 199

1871 Lomey Town Rowley Regis
Thomas Grice Head Mar 25 FItter Engine Born Rowley Regis (Cradley Heath Crossed out )
Charllote Grice Wife Mar 24 Born Staffordshire (Netherton Crossed out)
Ann Grice Daur 6/12 Born Rowley Regis (Cradley Heath Crossed out)
Ruth Grice Servant 10 Nurse Born Netherton

1881 33 Spinners End Reddal Hill
Thomas Grice Head Mar 36 Engine Fitter Born Cradley Heath
Charlott Grice Wife Mar 34 Born Netherton
Ann Grice Daur 10 Born Cradley Heath
John Grice Son 8 Born Cradley Heath
Charlotte Grice Daur 3 Born Cradley Heath
Thomas Grice Son 1 Born Cradley Heath
Martha Price W 74 Born Wolverhampton
Caroline Page Serv 17 Dom Serv Born Tipton

1891 33 Spinners End
Thomas Grice Head Mar 45 Engine Fitter Born Rowley Regis
Charlotte GriceWife Mar 44 Born Dudley
Ann Grice Daur S 20 Dressmaker Born Rowley Regis
John Grice Son S 18 Turner? Born Rowley Regis
Thomas W Grice Son S 11 Scholar Born Rowley Regis

1901 33 Spinners End
Thomas Grice Head Mar 56 Fitter Machinery Repairer Born Cradley Heath
Charlotte Grice Wife Mar 54 Born Netherton
Charlotte E Grice Daur S 23 Born Cradley Heath
Thomas W Grice Son S 21 Born Cradley Heath

1911 33 Upper High St, Spinners End, Cradley Heath, Staffs
Thomas Grice Head Widowed 65 Private Means Born Cradley Heath
Lottie Grice Daur Single 32 Born Cradley Heath
6 Children 3 living 3 dead

Death for Charlotte
Deaths Dec 1903
Grice Charlotte 57 Dudley 6c 44

No Death Found for Thomas

Thomas William Grice is the the Thomas William who was in business with Gideon Nelson Billingham

Name: Thomas William Grice
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 27 Sep 1880
Baptism Place: Reddall-Hill, Stafford, England
Father: Thomas Grice
Mother: Charlotte
FHL Film Number: 1470776
Reference ID: item 2 p 8

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1910
GRICE Thomas W CADDICK Violet L Dudley, St James Dudley Register Office 202/014/20

1911 27 Vicarage St, Walsall
Thomas William Grice Head 31 Works Manager Motor Car Fittings Born Rowley Regis
Violet Louisa Grice Wife 27 Born Sedgley

Death For Violet
Name: Violet L Grice
Death Age: 34
Birth Date: abt 1884
Registration Date: Oct 1918
[Nov 1918]
[Dec 1918]
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: West Bromwich
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6b

Will
Name: Violet Louisa Grice
Death Date: 10 Dec 1918
Death Place: Worcestershire, England
Probate Date: 20 May 1919
Probate Registry: London, England
Page: 1740
Grice Violet Louisa of 63a Crosswells Road Langley Worcestershire (Wife of Thomas William Grice) Died 10 Dec 1918 Probate London to the said Thomas William Grice Transport Controller. Effects £836 3s 11d

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1920
GRICE Thomas W KENDALL Nora B Dudley, St Edmund Dudley Register Office 201/011/160

Death for Thomas
Name: Thomas W Grice
Death Age: 57
Birth Date: abt 1880
Registration Date: Jul 1937
[Aug 1937]
[Sep 1937]
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Rowley Regis
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 732

Will
Name: Thomas William Grice
Death Date: 3 Aug 1937
Death Place: Worcestershire, England
Probate Date: 23 Sep 1937
Probate Registry: Birmingham, England

Grice Thomas William of Homestead Oakham Road Dudley Worcestershire died 3 Aug 1937 Probate Birmingham 23 Sept to Nora Beatrice Grice widow. Effects £3702 17s 8d
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Re: Grice/Billingham connection

Postby kdwoodie » Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:04 am

The London Gazette

Publication date:10 June 1902
NOTICE is hereby given, that the Partnership here-tofore subsisting between as the undersigned,Gideon Nelson Billingham and Thomas William Grice,carrying on business as Chain Manufacturers, Iron andGeneral Hardware Merchants and Factors, at theDespatch Chain Works, Cradley Heath, in the countyof Stafford, under the style or firm of'"GIDEONBILLINGHAM-," .has been dissolved by mutual consentas and from the 30th- day of- April, 1902. All debrs dueto and owing by the said late f|rm will be received andpaid by the said Thomas William, Grice, who willcontinue to carry on the business alone under the samestyle of " Gideon Billingham'."—Dated the 30th day ofMay, 1902.- - . GIDEON NELSON BILLINGHAM.THOMAS WILLIAM GRICE.

Bankrupts
Publication Date20 December 1907
Thomas William Grice (lately trading as Gideon Billing-ham and as Atlas Tube and Fittings Company (1905),residing at Spinners End, Cradley Heath, in the county of Stafford, and carrying on business at Cradley Heathaforesaid, chain, anchor, and tube fittings manufacturer.
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Re: Grice/Billingham connection

Postby mallosa » Mon Oct 21, 2019 6:20 pm

Wow! Nice work kdwoodie :clap:
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Re: Grice/Billingham connection

Postby kdwoodie » Mon Oct 21, 2019 6:23 pm

I did wonder about Thomas not with Ann in 1861, could he been in an asylum.
I've looked at Powick but cant see him.
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Re: Grice/Billingham connection

Postby mallosa » Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:40 am

Yeh, that's a possibility :idea:

added so far -

https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... i=66080547

need to add children of Thomas & Charlotte - https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =802083387
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Re: Grice/Billingham connection

Postby kdwoodie » Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:43 am

Sorry for causing so much work.
Just noticed on Thomas Grice you have
NOTE: parents Jesse & Maria Billingham are living next door, Ann's father was Jeremiah.
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Re: Grice/Billingham connection

Postby mallosa » Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:57 am

Doh! I'll have a look later.
Thanks for letting me know :thumbup:
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Re: Grice/Billingham connection..Mally sorting

Postby mallosa » Wed Oct 23, 2019 1:16 am

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Re: Grice/Billingham connection..Mally sorting

Postby mallosa » Wed Oct 23, 2019 2:07 am

Just a thought....any photos that we could add to our BILLINGHAM Family Album would be nice :idea:

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