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Posted: **Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:03 am**

There are two Joseph BURLEYs, both b. 1834 in Rowley Regis -

1.- Father Joseph BURLEY (1810-91) m. Maria Tibbetts (1811-77)
they produced son Joseph 1834 Rowley Regis

2.- Father Joseph BURLEY (1803-81) m. Mary Easthope (1806-61)
they produced son Joseph 1834 Rowley Regis

Both fathers were burchers, problem is how to determine which son married and to whom?

I have marriages as follows
1859 to Mary WELCH Holy Trinity Amblecote
1867 to Martha ALLPORT Staffs
But which of these two Joseph's belong to these wives?

Rob G

Posted: **Thu Jul 25, 2019 3:53 pm**

Freereg
13th April 1867. St Andrew, Weston upon Trent
Joseph Burley, FA, B, Labouer, William Burley, Boatman,
Martha Allport, FA, S, Weston upon Trent, George Allport, Bricklayer,
Both signed,
Witnesses, George Allport, Sarah Snape?

Posted: **Thu Jul 25, 2019 4:14 pm**

On BCC we have Joseph Burley here

https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... ver=466962

1851 census has daur as Emma, GRO has...
BURLEY, EMMA TIBBETTS
GRO Reference: 1849 D Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 18 Page 276

Posted: **Thu Jul 25, 2019 5:15 pm**

grangers14 wrote:FreeReg

13th April 1867. St Andrew, Weston upon Trent
Joseph Burley, FA, B, Labouer, William Burley, Boatman,
Martha Allport, FA, S, Weston upon Trent, George Allport, Bricklayer,
Both signed,
Witnesses, George Allport, Sarah Snape?

1871. Weston Staffordshire
Joseph Burley 28. Labourer.
Martha Burley 27.
Laura Burley 3.
William Burley 11/12.
Elizabeth Harper 2. nurse child. Stafford.

Others born Weston Staffordshire.

BURLEY, LAURA MARTHA ALLPORT.
GRO Reference: 1868 M Quarter in OF STAFFORD Volume 06B Page 18.

BURLEY, WILLIAM ARTHUR ALLPORT.
GRO Reference: 1870 J Quarter in OF STAFFORD Volume 06B Page 20

BURLEY, CLARA ALLPORT.
GRO Reference: 1872 M Quarter in OF STAFFORD Volume 06B Page 27.

BURLEY, JOSEPH ALLPORT.
GRO Reference: 1874 D Quarter in STAFFORD Volume 06B Page 25.

BURLEY, RICHARD ALLPORT.
GRO Reference: 1877 S Quarter in STAFFORD Volume 06B Page 24.

BURLEY, ALBERT ALLPORT.
GRO Reference: 1880 S Quarter in STAFFORD Volume 06B Page 23.

BURLEY, FREDRICK JAMES ALLPORT.
GRO Reference: 1883 S Quarter in STAFFORD Volume 06B Page 25

Posted: **Thu Jul 25, 2019 5:42 pm**

Is this the right order?

1841. Tibbetts Garden, Rowley Regis
Joseph Burley, 30, Chain M
Mirah, 30,
Joseph, son, 6,
Mirah, 4,
Isaac, 2,
Nancy, 5m
/Martha Padmore, 14, FS, Not born in County
All others born in County

1851. Cradley Heath, Rowley Regis.
Joseph Burley, head, 40, Chain Maker, Cradley, Worcestershire
Maria, wife, 40,
Joseph, son, 16, Chain Maker
Maria, daur, 14,
Isacc, son, 12
Elizabrth, daur, 8,
Nancy, daur, 6,
John, son, 3,
Emma, daur, 1,
Hannah Foley, U, 23,
All others born Rowley Regis

1861. Tibbetts Gardens, Rowley Regis
Joseph Burley, 50, Victualler and Butcher, Cradley. Worcs
Maria, wife, 50,
Elizabeth, daur, 18,
Nancy, daur, 16,
Emma, daur, 11,
David, son, 8,
Elizabeth Taylor, Niece, 12, Dudley,
All others born Rowley Regis

1871. Tibbetts Garden, Round of Beef, Rowey Regis.
Joseph Burley, head, 60,
Maria, wife, 60,
Emma, daur, 21,
David, son, 18,
All born Rowley Regis

1881. Tibbetts Garden, Rowley Regis.
Joseph Burley, head, 69, Publican, Cradley Worcs
David Burley, son, M, 29, Brewer,
Joseph Probert, g son, 17, Iron worker
Richard Probert, g son, 14, Iron worker,
Amelia Probert, g daur, 12,
Maryann Emery, serv, 28, Housekeeper, Cradley, Worcs,
All others born Rowley.
________________________________________________________

1841. Cradley Heath, Rowley Regis.
Joseph Burley, 38,
Mary, 35,
Thomas, 16,
Charles, 14,
Elizabeth, 12,
Mary, 10,
Ann, 9,
Joseph, 7,
Victoria, 4,
Matildah, 1,
All born in County

1851. Quarry bank, Kinswinford.
Joseph Burley, head, 46, Butcher, Cradley Worcs
Mary, wife, 45,
Charles, son, 24, Butcher by Himself,
Elizabeth, daur, 22,
Mary, daur, 19,
Ann, daur, 18,
Joseph, son, 16, Errand boy, Rowley
Matilda, daur, 11, Rowley
Isaac, son, 4, Rowley
All others born Kingswinford.

1861. Highway, Road, Kingswinford.
Joseph Burley, head, W, 56, Butcher, Cradley, Worcs
Victoria, daur, 23, House Keeper, Cradley
Matilda, daur, 21, Bonet maker,
Isaac, son, 14,
Others born Rowley
_____________________________________________________________

1861. High Street, Rowley Regis.
Joseph Burley, head, 27, Butcher, Rowley Regis,
Mary, wife, 21, Oldswinford

1871. Kings Street, Rowley Regis.
Joseph Burley, head, 36, Butcher (master) Rowley Regis
Mary, wife, 32?, Cradley

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1871. Hill Top, Wednesbury.
Joseph Burley, head, 38, Master Butcher, (Employing 1 man)
Harriott, wife, 48, Bilston,
Isacc Whitehouse, son in law, 18, Butchers shop man,
Louisa Burnely, daur, 13,
Thomas, son, 11,
Amy, daur, 9,
Harry, 6,
All others Born West Bromwich

Marriage Freebmd
Marriages Sep 1856
Burley Joseph W. Bromwich 6b 702
WHITEHOUSE Harriet W Bromwich 6b 702

1881. 168, Hill Top, Wednesbury, West Bromwich.
Joseph Burnely, head, 46, Butcher, Staffordshire
Martha, wife, 46,Gloucetershire?
Thomas, son, 21, Butcher, W Bromwich
Alice, daur, 19,London
William, son, 16, App to Cooper, Cheshire
Martha, daur, 12, Wolverhampton

Posted: **Sat Jul 27, 2019 2:21 am**

Freereg....

Parish Register
Register entry number 522
Marriage 15 Aug 1824 St Mary, Kingswinford, Staffordshire
Groom Joseph BURLEY Kingswinford
Mary EASTHOPE Kingswinford
Witness1 William SKELDING
Witness2 Thomas WALKER

1841. Cradley Heath, Rowley Regis.
Joseph Burley, 38,
Mary, 35,
Thomas, 16,
Charles, 14,
Elizabeth, 12,
Mary, 10,
Ann, 9,
Joseph, 7,
Victoria, 4,
Matildah, 1,
All born in County

1851. Quarry bank, Kinswinford.
Joseph Burley, head, 46, Butcher, Cradley Worcs
Mary, wife, 45,
Charles, son, 24, Butcher by Himself,
Elizabeth, daur, 22,
Mary, daur, 19,
Ann, daur, 18,
Joseph, son, 16, Errand boy, Rowley
Matilda, daur, 11, Rowley
Isaac, son, 4, Rowley
All others born Kingswinford.

1861. Highway, Road, Kingswinford.
Joseph Burley, head, W, 56, Butcher, Cradley, Worcs
Victoria, daur, 23, House Keeper, Cradley
Matilda, daur, 21, Bonet maker,
Isaac, son, 14,
Others born Rowley

added here....https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =912584813

Has Joseph remarried....?

ancestry..

Joseph Burley
Gender: Male
Marital status: Widowed
Age: 54
Birth Date: 1808
Marriage Date: 16 Mar 1862
Marriage Place: Pensnett, Stafford, England
Father: Thomas Burley
Spouse: Ann Wooton
FHL Film Number: 1470774
Reference ID: it 4 p 27

1871 Census: Easy Row, Stourbridge, Worc
Joseph Burley 63 Head Retired Butcher Cradley, Worc
Ann Burley 50 Wife Alverley, Salop

Posted: **Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:22 am**

Jimmy wrote:
grangers14 wrote:FreeReg

13th April 1867. St Andrew, Weston upon Trent
Joseph Burley, FA, B, Labouer, William Burley, Boatman,
Martha Allport, FA, S, Weston upon Trent, George Allport, Bricklayer,
Both signed,
Witnesses, George Allport, Sarah Snape?

1871. Weston Staffordshire
Joseph Burley 28. Labourer.
Martha Burley 27.
Laura Burley 3.
William Burley 11/12.
Elizabeth Harper 2. nurse child. Stafford.

Others born Weston Staffordshire.

BURLEY, LAURA MARTHA ALLPORT.
GRO Reference: 1868 M Quarter in OF STAFFORD Volume 06B Page 18.

BURLEY, WILLIAM ARTHUR ALLPORT.
GRO Reference: 1870 J Quarter in OF STAFFORD Volume 06B Page 20

BURLEY, CLARA ALLPORT.
GRO Reference: 1872 M Quarter in OF STAFFORD Volume 06B Page 27.

BURLEY, JOSEPH ALLPORT.
GRO Reference: 1874 D Quarter in STAFFORD Volume 06B Page 25.

BURLEY, RICHARD ALLPORT.
GRO Reference: 1877 S Quarter in STAFFORD Volume 06B Page 24.

BURLEY, ALBERT ALLPORT.
GRO Reference: 1880 S Quarter in STAFFORD Volume 06B Page 23.

BURLEY, FREDRICK JAMES ALLPORT.
GRO Reference: 1883 S Quarter in STAFFORD Volume 06B Page 25

all added here - https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =326245435

Posted: **Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:40 am**

Is this the right order?

1841. Tibbetts Garden, Rowley Regis
Joseph Burley, 30, Chain M
Mirah, 30,
Joseph, son, 6,
Mirah, 4,
Isaac, 2,
Nancy, 5m
/Martha Padmore, 14, FS, Not born in County
All others born in County

1851. Cradley Heath, Rowley Regis.
Joseph Burley, head, 40, Chain Maker, Cradley, Worcestershire
Maria, wife, 40,
Joseph, son, 16, Chain Maker
Maria, daur, 14,
Isacc, son, 12
Elizabrth, daur, 8,
Nancy, daur, 6,
John, son, 3,
Emma, daur, 1,
Hannah Foley, U, 23,
All others born Rowley Regis

1861. Tibbetts Gardens, Rowley Regis
Joseph Burley, 50, Victualler and Butcher, Cradley. Worcs
Maria, wife, 50,
Elizabeth, daur, 18,
Nancy, daur, 16,
Emma, daur, 11,
David, son, 8,
Elizabeth Taylor, Niece, 12, Dudley,
All others born Rowley Regis

1871. Tibbetts Garden, Round of Beef, Rowey Regis.
Joseph Burley, head, 60,
Maria, wife, 60,
Emma, daur, 21,
David, son, 18,
All born Rowley Regis

1881. Tibbetts Garden, Rowley Regis.
Joseph Burley, head, 69, Publican, Cradley Worcs
David Burley, son, M, 29, Brewer,
Joseph Probert, g son, 17, Iron worker
Richard Probert, g son, 14, Iron worker,
Amelia Probert, g daur, 12,
Maryann Emery, serv, 28, Housekeeper, Cradley, Worcs,
All others born Rowley.

all added here - https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... i=30104938
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Posted: **Mon Jul 29, 2019 5:49 am**

1871. Hill Top, Wednesbury.
Joseph Burley, head, 38, Master Butcher, (Employing 1 man)
Harriott, wife, 48, Bilston,
Isacc Whitehouse, son in law, 18, Butchers shop man,
Louisa Burnely, daur, 13,
Thomas, son, 11,
Amy, daur, 9,
Harry, 6,
All others Born West Bromwich

Marriage Freebmd
Marriages Sep 1856
Burley Joseph W. Bromwich 6b 702
WHITEHOUSE Harriet W Bromwich 6b 702

1881. 168, Hill Top, Wednesbury, West Bromwich.
Joseph Burnely, head, 46, Butcher, Staffordshire
Martha, wife, 46,Gloucetershire?
Thomas, son, 21, Butcher, W Bromwich
Alice, daur, 19,London
William, son, 16, App to Cooper, Cheshire
Martha, daur, 12, Wolverhampton

added here - https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =292027279

Posted: **Mon Jul 29, 2019 6:36 am**

Rob G wrote:There are two Joseph BURLEYs, both b. 1834 in Rowley Regis -

1.- Father Joseph BURLEY (1810-91) m. Maria Tibbetts (1811-77)
they produced son Joseph 1834 Rowley Regis

https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... ver=467529

2.- Father Joseph BURLEY (1803-81) m. Mary Easthope (1806-61)
they produced son Joseph 1834 Rowley Regis

https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... ver=467529

Both fathers were butchers, problem is how to determine which son married and to whom?

I have marriages as follows
1859 to Mary WELCH Holy Trinity Amblecote
1867 to Martha ALLPORT Staffs
But which of these two Joseph's belong to these wives?

Rob G

Posted: **Mon Aug 12, 2019 6:27 pm**

Rob G wrote:There are two Joseph BURLEYs, both b. 1834 in Rowley Regis -

1.- Father Joseph BURLEY (1810-91) m. Maria Tibbetts (1811-77)
they produced son Joseph 1834 Rowley Regis

2.- Father Joseph BURLEY (1803-81) m. Mary Easthope (1806-61)
they produced son Joseph 1834 Rowley Regis

Both fathers were burchers, problem is how to determine which son married and to whom?

I have marriages as follows
1859 to Mary WELCH Holy Trinity Amblecote
1867 to Martha ALLPORT Staffs
But which of these two Joseph's belong to these wives?

Rob G

Martha married this Joseph Burley who was born in 1843

https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =294816823

Posted: **Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:10 am**

That's progress then, obviously not one of the two Josephs b. 1834!

Thanks

Posted: **Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:06 pm**

Do you have any childrens names we can match up?

I have just asked for the marriage of Joseph Burley and Mary Welch to be looked up...as and when someone can.

I think Mary may be on BCC here...
https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... ver=469140

I found some possible children for them but not seen on census?

BURLEY, ELIZA WELCH
GRO Reference: 1863 J Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 6

BURLEY, WILLIAM WELCH
GRO Reference: 1868 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 136

BURLEY, EMILY WELCH
GRO Reference: 1873 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 3

Posted: **Wed Aug 14, 2019 5:28 am**

No, I've looked but no luck either Jo :roll:

Posted: **Fri Aug 16, 2019 2:57 pm**

I have the following children which I have - quite possibly wrongly - assigned to the marriage between Jos Burley & Martha Allport -

Thomas 1860-1918
Alice 1862
William 1865
Martha 1869

Does that help?

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