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WMBMD shows :-
LONG William LLOYD Ellen West Bromwich, All Saints Sandwell Register Office 22/9/288 1861
Freereg marriage 22/12/1861 All Saints West Bromwich
William Long 19 Crown Glass Maker father Samuel Long Crown Glass Maker
Ellen Lloyd 19 no father details
Witnesses Timothy Marshall & Elizabeth Dunshee
Freebmd shows :-
Burns Mary Ann W Bromwich 6b 974 Scan available - click to view
HIMMS Mary Ann W Bromwich 6b 974 Scan available - click to view
HOLLAND Thomas W.Bromwich 6b 974 Scan available - click to view
Lloyd Ellen W Bromwich 6b 974 Scan available - click to view
LONG William W. Bromwich 6b 974 Scan available - click to view

But all these are contradicted by Census Records

1871 Census Glover Street West Bromwich Staffs.
William Lunn Head 28 Glass Maker born Smethwick Staffs.
Ellen Lunn wife 28
Thomas Lunn son 8 Scholar
Samuel Lunn son 7 Scholar
Emma Lunn dau 3
Elizabeth Lunn dau 1
Rest born West Bromwich Staffs.

1881 Census 29 Glover Street West Bromwich Staffs.
William Lunn Head 38 General Labourer born Oldbury Worcs.
Ellen Lunn wife 38
Thomas Lunn son 18 Warehouseman
Samuel Lunn son 17 Tinner
Emma Lunn dau 13 Scholar
Elizabeth Lunn dau 11 Scholar
Jane Lunn dau 8 Scholar
Anne Lunn dau 5 Scholar
Rest born West Bromwich Staffs.

1891 Census 29 Glover Street West Bromwich Staffs.
William Lunn Head 48 General Labourer
Ellen Lunn wife 48
Elizabeth Millward 21 (m)
Henry Millward son.in.law 25 Carpenter
Jane Lunn dau 19 Holloware Worker
Annie Lunn dau 16 Paper Box Maker
Ernest Lloyd visitor 13 Scholar born Smethwick Staffs.
Emma Lunn boarder (wid) 34 born Birmingham Warks.
Rest born West Bromwich Staffs.
Same House :-
Jane Cutler Head 82 (wid)
Alice Lunn grd.child 8
Both born West Bromwich Staffs.

1901 Census 29 Glover Street West Bromwich Staffs.
William Lunn Head 59 Glass Works Labourer born Oldbury Worcs.
Ellen Lunn wife 59
Alice Lunn dau 18 Holloware Japanner
Alfred Lunn nephew 22 Foundry Labourer
Florence Millward grd.dau 9
Rest born West Bromwich Staffs.

Three Ancestry trees have William Lunn marrying an Ellen Harris but I am convinced he married 1861 a Ellen Lloyd adopted daughter of Samuel Cutler and Jane Lloyd

https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =908600101

All children are registered as Lunn as well

Ancestry,
Probably used this one without checking it out.

1874. Jan-Feb-Mar. Walsall. Volume: 6b. Page: 777.
Hannah Boston.
Ellen Harris.
William Lunn.
John Vaughan.

I had the same situation years ago before information was on the internet, when we had to do research the old way by going to various archives to look at the parish registers and censuses.

From the original parish register I had an Isaac Cartwright, a Widower, marrying Esther Careless nee Hipkiss, a Widow, they both signed with a mark X. I went back to re-check the marriage to see if I had it correct as all the censuses pointed to him being Isaac Carter. Found his first marriage to Mary Hickman and he was Isaac Carter. As he had signed with a mark X he obviously didn't know if the entry in the register was correct or not when he married Esther.

Thanks BCWench & Jimmy,
I have added with a note