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Ernest Wall 1897-1918 Jo adding

PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 11:51 am
by mjay
I've been sent a photo of Ernest as a child with his family. With permission from family to share on here.

Ernest Wall 1897 -18/10/1918 (21)
Killed in Action France
Parents Robert Wall Eliza Dudley
Marriage look up requested
1892 St Martins Tipton Sandwell 39/15/392

1917 Info from Tipton Remember page family were living 1 Tudor St Tipton

1901 Census
Tudor Street, Tipton, Staffs.
Robert Wall 29 Bricklayer's Labourer Dudley
Eliza 28 Tipton
Ernest 4 Tipton
Fanny 10 months Tipton
Mary Woodhouse 83 Boarder

1911 Census
1 Tudor Street, Tipton, Staffs.
Robert Wall 40 Stated Can't Work Birmingham
Eliza 40 Dudley Port 4 suviving children of 9 Ernest 14 Labourer Nut& Bolt Works, Dudley Port
Fanny 10 School Dudley Port
Thomas 6 School Dudley Port
Samuel 2 Dudley Port

https://www.tiptonremembers.net/index.php/wall-ernest

Re: Ernest Wall 1897-1918

PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 3:14 pm
by grangers14
25th December 1892. St Martin, Tipton
Robert Wall, 21, B, Malleable Iron Founder, 1 Tudor Street, Thomas Wall, Carpenter
Eliza Dudley, 20, S, 1 Tudor Street, Joseph Dudley, Labourer
Banns
Robert and Eliza signed
Witnesses, John Stokes, Maria O’Donnel both X

Re: Ernest Wall 1897-1918

PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 3:53 pm
by mjay
Thanks Jo

1891 213 Dudley Port
William Wall 28 Nail Carter
Emily Louisa 27 wife
Robert Wall 21 brother Nail Carter

Re: Ernest Wall 1897-1918

PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 4:33 pm
by mjay
Think this is Ernests mom Eliza
1891
3 Sedgley Rd East Tipton
Maria Bullar 70 shopkeeper
Eliza Dudley 18 General Servant
Jemima Taft 5 visitor

Re: Ernest Wall 1897-1918

PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:07 am
by Jimmy
DUDLEY, ELIZA PARKER.
GRO Reference: 1872 J Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 41.

I can't see a marriage for Dudley to Parker, or anyting in 1881 census.

Re: Ernest Wall 1897-1918

PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:30 am
by Jimmy
1881. 85 Peel Street, Birmingham.
Thomas Wall 62. Carpenter. Ludlow.
Fanny Wall 42. Ludlow.
William Wall 18. Ludlow.
Mary Jane Wall 16.
Albert Edw. Wall 14.
Robt. Wall 11.
Fanny Wall 9.
Ernest Wall 6.
Herbert Wall 2.
Geo. Sims 18.

Others born Birmingham.

WALL, ROBERT HUMPHREYS.
GRO Reference: 1869 S Quarter in ASTON Volume 06D Page 266.

Familysearch.

Thomas Wall. father John Wall.
Fanny Humphreys. father Robert Humphreys.
marriage Date 12 Apr 1859.
Event Place Ludlow, Shropshire.

England Marriages, 1538–1973.

Indexing Project (Batch) Number I03353-1.
System Origin England-EASy.
GS Film number 1702080.
Reference ID item 7 v SRO 2881/1/22 p 9.

Re: Ernest Wall 1897-1918

PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 11:15 am
by Jimmy
It looks like a name change,

1881. 6 Coneygate Rd, Tipton.
John Dudley 34. general labourer.
Selina Dudley 36. West Bromwich.
Sarah Dudley 12.
Eliza Dudley 7.
Sarah A. Dudley 4.
Thomas Dudley 1.

others born Tipton.

1871. 3, 16 Dudley Port, Tipton.
Joseph Cooper 23. Labourer. Tipton.
Selena Cooper 30. West Bromwich.
Sarah Cooper 2. Tipton

Re: Ernest Wall 1897-1918

PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 11:16 am
by Jimmy
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1869.
COOPER Joseph PARKER Selina. Tipton, St Mark. Sandwell Register Office. 38/1/393.

PARKER, SARAH blank.
GRO Reference: 1868 S Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 43.

DUDLEY, SARAH ANN PARKER.
GRO Reference: 1876 D Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 66.

DUDLEY, THOMAS PARKER.
GRO Reference: 1879 S Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 56.

Re: Ernest Wall 1897-1918

PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 11:29 am
by Jimmy
Familysearch.

England, Staffordshire, Church Records, 1538-1944.
Joseph Cooper. father Thomas Cooper.
Selina Parker. father Benjamin Parker.
Event Type:
Marriage 04 Jul 1869.
Event Place: Tipton, Staffordshire.
Affiliate Image Identifier: D6116/1/1/10.

Re: Ernest Wall 1897-1918

PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 11:38 am
by Jimmy
Same address as on marriage,

1891. 1 Tudor Street, Tipton.
Joseph Dudley 40. General labourer.
Selina Dudley 42.
Thomas Dudley 7.

All born Tipton.

Re: Ernest Wall 1897-1918 Jo adding

PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 7:38 pm
by grangers14
1881. 6, Congreaves Lane, Tipton.
John Dudley, head, 34, Gen Lab,
Selina, wife, 36, West Bromwich
Sarah, daur, 12,
Eliza, daur, 7,
Sarah A, 4,
Thomas, son, 1,
All born Tipton

1891. Tudor Street, Tipton.
Joseph Dudley, head, 40, General Labourer,
Selina, wife, 42,
Thomas, son, 7,
All born Tipton

1901. Tudor Street, Tipton.
Joseph Dudley, head, 50, Bricklayers labourer,
Selina, wife, 58?
Thomas, son, 21, Bricklayers labourer,
All born Tipton

1911. 21 Tudor Street, Tipton
James Jackson, head, 39, Labourer, Walsall
Sarah Jackson, wife, married 15 years, 9 children 5 living,
Mary Ann Jackson, daur, 14,
Joseph Jackson, son, 13,
Charles Jackson, son, 12,
Selina Jackson, daur, 10,
James Jackson, son, 1,
Joseph Dudley, Father, 59, W, Labourer
Thomas Didley, Uncle, 32, Labourer
All others born Tipton

Marriage. April 5th 1896.
James Jackson, 21, B, Galvanizer, 29 Cl? Street, Charles? Jackson, Galvanizer
Sarah Ann Dudley, 19, S, ?, Tudor Street, Joseph Dudley, Labourer
Banns.
Witnesses, John Thomas Simcox, Fanny Latham.
All signed

Re: Ernest Wall 1897-1918

PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 8:00 pm
by grangers14
Jimmy wrote:It looks like a name change,

1871. 3, 16 Dudley Port, Tipton.
Joseph Cooper 23. Labourer. Tipton.
Selena Cooper 30. West Bromwich.
Sarah Cooper 2. Tipton


Great Jimmy!

Marriage.
4th July 1869. St Mark Tipton.
Joseph Cooper, Of Age, B, Labourer, Dudley Port, Thomas Dudley, Labourer
Selina Parker, Of Age, S, Dudley Port, Benjamin Wood, Miner
Witnesses, Thomas Wood, Sarah Wood


Freereg
9th April 1872. Wesleyan Methodist. Dudley Port.
Eliza Dudley , born 19th March 1872. Parents, Joseph and Selina Cooper. Dudley Port

Re: Ernest Wall 1897-1918 Jo adding

PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:18 am
by Jimmy
Death,

DUDLEY, SELINA age 59.
GRO Reference: 1909 S Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 13.

Re: Ernest Wall 1897-1918 Jo adding

PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 10:43 am
by Jimmy
Selina's age is all over the place this is the only one that seems to fit.

PARKER, SELINA BALL.
GRO Reference: 1840 J Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 18 Page 557.

On marriage it says father Benjaman Wood,

Dudley St Johns.
Marriage date 06 Apr 1856.
Benjamin WOOD. Full Age. widower. Labourer. Dudley.
Elizabeth PARKER. Full Age. widow. Dudley. John BALL. Mason.
Witness 1 Cornelius WEBB.
Witness 2 Hannah WEBB.
Notes Groom's father is deceased.
Transcribed by Sandra Cooper.
File line number 598.

Dudley St Thomas.
Marriage date 10 Jun 1832.
James PARKER. bachelor. Dudley.
Elizabeth BALL. Dudley. spinster.
Witness 1 Thomas ALLEN.
Witness 2 William SHERWOOD.
Notes By Banns-Groom Bride & witness 2 marked X. Witness1 signed.
Transcribed by Christine Pritchard.
File line number 1913.

1841. West Bromwich.
Jas Parker 30. Collier.
Elizabeth Parker 30.
Martha Parker 5.
Selina Parker 1.
Sarah Parker 15.

1851. Brewery Street, Dudley.
Elizabeth Parker 40. widow. Washer woman. Great Bridge.
Martha Parker 15. Great Bridge.
Selina Parker 10. Great Bridge.
William Parker 8.
Mary Newson 21. Lodger.
William Webb 26. Lodger.
Maria Webb 26. Lodger.
Samuel Webb 4. Lodger.

Death.
PARKER, JAMES age 36.
GRO Reference: 1848 S Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 18 Page 185.

Re: Ernest Wall 1897-1918 Jo adding

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:10 pm
by grangers14
What I thought Jimmy! I didn't get chance to add yesterday...
16th August 1840. Christ Church, West Bromwich
Selina born 24th May 1840, Parents James and Elizabeth Parker, Black Lake. Miner.

10th June 1832. St Thomas, Dudley.
James Parker, Dudley, B
Elizabeth Ball, Dudley, S
Witnesses, Thomas Allen, William Sherwood

1841. Misers Row, West Bromwich.
James Parker, 30, Collier,
Elizabeth, 30
Martha, 5
Selina, 1
Sarah, 15, Brick Ma
All born in County

1851. Brewery Street, Dudley.
Elizabeth Parker, head, W, Washer woman, Great Bridge
Martha, daur, 15, Bank Girl, Great Bridge
Selina, daur, 10, Great Bridge
William Parker, son, 8, Great Bridge
Mary Newson, Lodger, 21, Dudley
William Webb, Lodger, 26, Dudley
Maria, Lodger, 26, Rowley
Samuel, son of Lodger, 4, Dudley


1851. Dudley Port, Tipton.
Benjamin Wood, head, 32, Boatman, Nottingham
Jane, wife, 24,
Thomas, son, 2,
Robert, son, 1
Others born Perry Bar

Marriage Freereg
31st October 1847. Christ Church, West Bromwich
Benjamin Wood, FA, B, Boat man, Greets Green, Joseph Wood, Miner
Jane Satchwell, FA, S, Greets Green, George Satchwell, Labourer
Witnesses, John Smith, Maria Bayliss

1861. Dudley Port, Tipton.
Benjamin Wood, head, 52, Boatman, Tipton
Elizabeth, wife, 55, Tipton
William, son, 19, West Bromwich (Looks like Elizabeth son)
Thomas, son, 12, Tipton
Robert, son, 10, Tipton

Living next door to Joseph Cooper and Selina
1871. Dudley Port Tipton
Benjamin Wood, 62, Labourer, Nottinghamshire
Elizabeth, wife, 67, manageress
Robert, son, 20, Miner
Others born Tipton