*Arch * -Marriage of David Harris and Sarah Smith C b1845

[Nutsy]

Ok, the marriage of David Harris and Sarah Bloomer was in 1862, she was 17. Says David was born in 1845 in Cradley though. However, I'm totally confused I'm really hoping someone can make some sense of it all, cos I'm going nuts.

[dianel]

1871 Lightfield Lane (next to Lomey Town), Rowley Regis
Joseph Harris Head 67 Farm Labourer b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Mary Harris Wife 63 b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Caleb Harris Son 20 Puddler b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Looks like in same house:
Aaron Davis Head 26 ...(Tool?) Vice Maker b. Dudley, Staffgordshire (??)
Sushannah Davis Wife 29 b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Thomas Davis Son 5 Scholar b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Mary A Davis Daur 1 mo. b. Staffs., Rowley Regis

[dianel]

So this looks like we could have 3 David Harris all married to a different Sarah!

Linell has flagged another marriage to a Bloomer for a David harris
So we have Smith- Lowe and Bloomer

We also it seems have 2 Josephs for fathers and a Benjamin

Sorry, have I missed something? The Sarah Lowe marriage was to a Joseph Harris not David????
So we only have the Smith and Bloomer marriages to consider?

[Nutsy]

Hi Daniel

Yeah, it's just David and Sarah I'm looking at... the question is, which Sarah did David Harris the son of Joseph and Mary Harris marry.


I def know that Joseph and Mary are my ancestors.. so it's down the the kids now. David is proving to be a real challenge though as I've found two marriages of David Harris born in 1845 in Cradley. One is to a Sarah SMITH and the other to a Sarah BLOOMER. David and Sarah Smith married in 1864 and David and Sarah Bloomer in 1862.

Also I agree with linell that Joseph's parents are Thomas and Hannah

[linell]

Hi all, the Cradley Vicar's Notebook have a David and Sarah Harris living with John and Eliza Bloomer Colley Lane Cradley 1863/64, David and Sarah Harris have a one year old son Joseph.

There's another David and Sarah Harris living on their own, in The Innage Cradley at the same time. The Vicar has no notes on them except to say +3, which I take to mean that Sarah was three months pregnant. I think this is the couple who are in Cradley in 1871 with a daughter Anna M aged 6 in 1871. David was aged 36 so born 1835, which makes him to old to be the son of Joseph and Mary Harris from Lomey Town their son was born 1844/5.

Has anyone found David born 1844/5 with a son Joseph born 1864 in 1871?

Linell.

[Northern Lass]

Yes soz Di it is just the 2!

this one

1864
HARRIS David SMITH Sarah Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/022/257

and the Bloomer one....do we have the church and details for that one.

I can look them up at the archives and see the ages of the groom, occup and father....

Just to add to the confusion the ones that we are dismissing ie David Harris b 1835 there is a Sarah Bloomer widow living near in 1871
bit of a red herring
and that David looks as though he has father Joseph

[dianel]

Just for interest:

1891 Colliery Lane, Cradley, Worcs.
David Harris 45 Iron worker b. Staffs, Cradley Heath
Sarah Harris 45 b. Worcs, Cradley
Clara Harris 22 b. Worcs, Cradley
Emily Harris 20 Dressmaker b. Worcs, Cradley
John Harris 18 Chain Warehouseman b. Worcs, Cradley
Arthur Harris 16 Iron Works Labourer b. Worcs, Cradley
Eliza M Harris 14 b. Worcs, Cradley
David Harris 12 Scholar b. Worcs, Cradley

1901 Colley Lane, Cradley
Sarah Harris Head Widow 56 b. Worcs., Cradley
Arthur Harris Son 26 Ironmoulder b. Worcs., Cradley
David Harris Son 22 Iron Chain Warehouseman b. Worcs., Cradley
Eliza M Hingley Daur 24 b. Worcs., Cradley
David Hingley Son-in-law 29 Iron Chain Maker b. Staffs., Old Hill
Edward Cooper Boarder Widower 41 Collier B...sman b. Worcs., Cradley
Martha Cooper Visitor 19 General Servant Domestic Lane, Barrow-in-Furness

[dianel]

Has anyone found David born 1844/5 with a son Joseph born 1864 in 1871?
Linell.

Someone else had found this one... This the family that Nutsy was looking at ... I think:
1871 Innage, Cradley Worcs
David Harris Head married 24 Forgeman b C.Heath
Sarah wife 25 b. Cradley Worcs.
Joseph son 6 b. Cradley Worcs. born 1865
Clara dau 2 b. Cradley Worcs.
Emily 10 mths b. Cradley Worcs.

[dianel]

So the David & Sarah living with John and Eliza Bloomer Colley Lane Cradley 1863/64 could be the right ones. See the David and Sarah in Cradley 1881 that Jimmy found:-
1881 11 Inage, Cradley
David HARRIS. Head M Male 35 Cradley Heath, Stafford, Ironworker. b. 1846
Sarah HARRIS. Wife M Female 35 Cradley, Worcester b. 1846
Joseph HARRIS. Son U Male 16 Cradley, Worcester, Scraper In Wire Mill.
Emily HARRIS. Daur Female 10 Cradley, Worcester, Scholar.
John H. HARRIS. Son Male 8 Cradley, Worcester, Scholar.
Arthur HARRIS. Son Male 6 Cradley, Worcester, Scholar.
Eliza Mary HARRIS. Daur Female 4 Cradley, Worcester, Scholar.
David HARRIS. Son Male 2 Cradley, Worcester,

And
"Ok, the marriage of David Harris and Sarah Bloomer was in 1862, she was 17. (b. 1845) Says David was born in 1845 in Cradley though."

This fits this family! But David would also be about 16/17 when married! Stranger things have happened ...

I'm wondering where their daughter, Clara is in 1881?

[dianel]

1871 Colley Lane, Cradley
John Bloomer Head 63 Rate Collecter b. Worcs., Cradley
Eliza Bloomer Wife 53 b. Worcs., Stourbridge
Ezra Bloomer Son 19 Chain Maker b. Worcs., Stourbridge
Emma Bloomer Daur 17 General Servant b. Worcs., Stourbridge
Amos Bloomer Son 15 Chain Maker b. Worcs., Stourbridge
Alfred Bloomer Son 13 Scholar b. Worcs., Cradley
Mary A Priest Boarder 27 Chain Maker b. Worcs., Cradley

[Nutsy]

Has anyone found David born 1844/5 with a son Joseph born 1864 in 1871?
Linell.

Someone else had found this one... This the family that Nutsy was looking at ... I think:
1871 Innage, Cradley Worcs
David Harris Head married 24 Forgeman b C.Heath
Sarah wife 25 b. Cradley Worcs.
Joseph son 6 b. Cradley Worcs. born 1865
Clara dau 2 b. Cradley Worcs.
Emily 10 mths b. Cradley Worcs.

Yes that's the family I've been looking at. Just wish I could solve the problem of which David Harris married Sarah Smith and which David Harris married Sarah Bloomer.

The David I need is the son of Joseph and Mary? Don't have a last name on her though.


Joseph and Mary were married on 28 October 1832.

[dianel]

1861 Colley Lane, Cradley
John Bloomer Head 53 Foreman in Chain Works b. Worcs, Cradley
Eliza Bloomer Wife 44 b. Worcs., Stourbridge
Mary A Bloomer Daur 17 Chain Maker b. Worcs, Cradley
Sarah Bloomer Daur 15 Chain Maker b. Worcs, Cradley
Phebe Bloomer Daur 13 b. Worcs, Cradley
Ezra Bloomer Son 9 Scholar b. Worcs, Cradley
Emma Bloomer Daur 7 b. Worcs, Cradley
Amos Bloomer Son 5 b. Worcs, Cradley
Alfred Bloomer Son 3 b. Worcs, Cradley

[Nutsy]

I have David down as being born June 1845... that is David.. son of Joseph and Mary Harris

[Jimmy]

A possible marriage for Joseph and Mary, extracted.

JOSEPH HARRIS.
MARY BENNETT.
Marriage, About 28 OCT 1832. Halesowen, Worcester,

[Nutsy]

A possible marriage for Joseph and Mary, extracted.

JOSEPH HARRIS.
MARY BENNETT.
Marriage, About 28 OCT 1832. Halesowen, Worcester,

That's the one I have too Jimmy, but don't know if it's the right one or not