*Arch * -Ellen Elizabeth Mallen b 1864

[peterd]

poss joseph

1881 census

27 Hermit Row Sedgley, Stafford

Joseph WESTWOOD 57 Sedgley, Stafford, Fire Clay Miner
Mary WESTWOOD 55 Sedgley, Stafford, (Nail)
William WESTWOOD 26 Sedgley, Stafford, Nail Warehouseman
Clara THOMAS 24 Sedgley, Stafford, Tailoress
Joseph THOMAS 22 Sedgley, Stafford, Fire Iron Banker
Richard THOMAS 15 Sedgley, Stafford, Bricklayer Laborer
George H. THOMAS 12 Sedgley, Stafford, Scholar

[peterd]

poss ellen


1881 census

38 Vernon St West Bromwich, Stafford

James MALLIN 45 Bromley, Stafford, Labourer Brickyard
Martha MALLIN 49 Westbromwich, Stafford,
Edward MALLIN 20 Bromley, Stafford, Labourer Brickyard
Hellen MALLIN 16 Bromley, Stafford,
Gertrude MALLIN 13 Bromley, Stafford,
David SHELLEY Nephew 20 Birmingham, Warwick, Bricklayer

[Jimmy]

1871 census as a ELLEN E MALLEN Born abt 1864, in Kingswinford, with a mother Martha.

Could this be her in, 1881. Bromley is Kingswinford.
1881 census.
James MALLIN. Head M Male 45 Bromley, Stafford, Labourer Brickyard
Martha MALLIN. Wife M Female 49 Westbromwich, Stafford,
Edward MALLIN. Son U Male 20 Bromley, Stafford, Labourer Brickyard
Hellen MALLIN. Daur U Female 16 Bromley, Stafford,
Gertrude MALLIN. Daur Female 13 Bromley, Stafford,
David SHELLEY Nephew U Male 20 Birmingham, Warwick, Bricklayer

38 Vernon St.
Census Place West Bromwich, Stafford, England

[mallosa]

Who was Ellen's father.

That looks like the right Family in 1871 and 1881 Pete and Jimmy, thanks...

Ellen Elizabeth's father was James Mallen Brick Maker

[peterd]

poss marriage

Marriages Dec 1858

Davies Martha King's N. 6c 763
Davis Martha Kings Norton 6c 763
Mallen James King's N. 6c 763
Mallen James Kings L 6c 763

[mallosa]

Poss
Marriage 1858
MALLEN James DAVIS Martha Smethwick, Holy Trinity 1/1/287

[mallosa]

1861: Bromley Lane, Kingswinford

James Mallen 28 Head Lab
Martha Mallen 29 Wife
Sarah A Mallen 2 Dau
Edwd Mallen 6 Mo Son
all born Bromley

[Jimmy]

It looks like James is not with them in 1871.

[mallosa]

Yes Jimmy, it says the head of family away from home.

[FarSide]

Poss
1871
9
Railway hut on line of Railway in course of construction, Solbourn (Golbourn), Bellows, Cheshire
(ancestry = Cheshire, Golborne David, District 6)
Francis Skeldon 28
Maria Skeldon 26
Phobe Skeldon 1
George Skeldon 20
Mary Skeldon 18
Elizabeth Skeldon 12
John Skeldon 24
John Cumming 52
Richard Ratlidge 53
James Mallen 37 - Lodger - Brickmaker - b Bromley
Edward Mallen 10 (looks like 16) - son of do (Lodger) - Scholar - b Bromley
Jenkin D Skelley 11 - orphan - Scholar - b Birmingham - q could this be David Shelley - nephew on the 81
William Nichols 29
George Bernham 26

[FarSide]

Good possibility
Births Jun 1860
SHELLEY David Jenkins Birmingham 6d 31

[FarSide]

2 poss's on the 51, unfortunately neither are Brickmakers
#1
1851
225
Bromley, Kingswinford
Moses Mallen 50 - Boat loader
Mary Mallen 60
Eliza Mallen 20
John Mallen 22 - Boat loader
James Mallen 18 - Boat loader
George B Lockway 4 - granson
Thomas Phillips 48 - Lodger - Boot & shoe maker - b Salop Fitz
others b Kingswinford

#2
1851
63
Dudley Road, Kingswinford
James Mallen 45 - Blacksmith
Phoebe Mallen 45
Joseph Mallen 23 - Blacksmith
James Mallen 22 - Blacksmith
Thomas Mallen 22 - Engine fitter vc?
Esther Mallen 19
Ann Lampton 25 - cousin - Dressmaker
Susanna Champion 37 - on page lives alone at 64 - wife married - Dressmaker
all b Kingswinford

[mallosa]

Thanks again FarSide

I've found James (Wid) in 1891

27 Vernon Street, West Brom

James Mallin 60 Head Wid Gen Lab Bromley
Edward Mallin 30 Son S Gen Clerk Bromley
Ellen Mallin 25 Dau Single Bromley
Elizabeth Somer 11 Visitor West Brom
Mary J Rogers 9 Visitor West Brom
Harry Meech 18 Visitor Single Railway Clerk Brandon, Suffolk
Benjamin F Watton 16 Boarder Single Railway Clerk Birmingham, Warks

[mallosa]

Thanks everyone for your help with this...

Found a connection with Yardley, Birmingham ...........see here

[mallosa]

2 poss's on the 51, unfortunately neither are Brickmakers
#1
1851
225
Bromley, Kingswinford
Moses Mallen 50 - Boat loader
Mary Mallen 60
Eliza Mallen 20
John Mallen 22 - Boat loader
James Mallen 18 - Boat loader
George B Lockway 4 - granson
Thomas Phillips 48 - Lodger - Boot & shoe maker - b Salop Fitz
others b Kingswinford

#2
1851
63
Dudley Road, Kingswinford
James Mallen 45 - Blacksmith
Phoebe Mallen 45
Joseph Mallen 23 - Blacksmith
James Mallen 22 - Blacksmith
Thomas Mallen 22 - Engine fitter vc?
Esther Mallen 19
Ann Lampton 25 - cousin - Dressmaker
Susanna Champion 37 - on page lives alone at 64 - wife married - Dressmaker
all b Kingswinford

1841 Bromley, Kingswinford

Moses Mallin 35 Labourer
Mary Mallin 50
Ann Frost 15
John Mallin 13
Eliza Mallin 11
James Mallin 9
Edwd Thomas 20
John Thomas 11
Mmmm.. an earlier connection with Thomas family too?