*Arch tbc* -Trueman Grove b abt 1880

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1871
16
New Street, Hasbury
James Grave 21 - Bricklayer
Eliza Grave 21 - Nail forger
Alice Grave 2
all b Hasbury

2 doors away
18
James Sawyer 44 - Gun barrel welder - b Halesowen
Sarah Sawyer 54 - Shopkeeper - b Halesowen
Fanny Sawyer 15 - Nail forger
Sarah C Sawyer 7
Elizabeth Sawyer 3
John Sawyer 1 week
Mary Grove 4 - grandaug
Henry Hollies 48 - Boarder - Ag Lab - b Halesowen
Kids b Hasbury

sarah marriage brother is lodger

SAWYER James HOLLIES Sarah 1851 Dudley, St Thomas West Midlands Dudley Register Office 204/011/56


JAMES SAWYERS
SARAH HOLLIES
Marriage: 09 JUN 1851 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,

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all on by james grove c1850 waiting for look ups

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =644208558

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1861
212
New Street, Hasbury
James Sawyer 32 - Gun barrel welder
Sarah Sawyer 32 - Nailor
Eliza Sawyer 10
Fanny Sawyer 5
Henry Hollies 38 - Lodger - Ag Lab
all b Hasbury

Poss on James
1851
124
Rainbow Siviters? Building,
Jabez Sawyer 43 - Widow
James Sawyer 23
Eli Sawyer 20
Ann Sawyer 18
John Sawyer 15
Sarah Sawyer 11
all b Halesowen, Nailors

Poss on Sarah
1851
60
High Street, Halesowen
William Hollies 45 - Butcher
Sarah Hollies 41
Henry Hollies 20 - Butcher
William Hollies 19 - Butcher
Sarah Hollies 17
Joseph Hollies 15
Mary Hollies 13
George Hollies 10
Anne Hollies 9
Susannah Hollie 7
John Hollie 5
James Hollie 1
all b Hasbury

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1881 census ON

New Street Hasbury, Worcester

James SAWYER 55 Halesowen, Worcester, Gun Barrel Welder
Sarah SAWYER 55 Halesowen, Worcester,
Elizabeth SAWYER 12 Halesowen, Worcester, Scholar
Walter SAWYER 10 Halesowen, Worcester, Scholar
Henry HOLLIES Boarder 70 Halesowen, Worcester, Farm Labourer

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1891 ON
312
New Street, Hasbury
Sarah Sawyer 64 - Living on own means
Elizabeth Sawyer 23
Walter Sawyer 20 - Spita? maker
all b Halesowen

next door (see earlier post - Jo)
311 ON
James Grove 42
Eliza Grove 40
Mary Grove 24
Sarah Grove 19
Job Grove 17
Luke Grove 18
Martha Grove 10
Lily Grove 8
Trueman Grove 6

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Can all this census info go on?

if so could anyone add it to connections?

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most of it on waiting for look up to prove the other links are correct

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Ok so going to archive pending look ups
unless otherwise advised

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Brought this back as I have done the look ups will post as I can....so here is the 1st one

Trueman Grove and Minnie James marriage at St Johns Halesowen 1907

Marriage info by Jan<br>
15 Dec 907 Halesowen<br>
-Trueman Grove- 23- bach- bricklayer- Highfield Lane- Hasbury- James Grove- Bricklayer<br>
-Minnie James- 23- spinster- spikemaker- springhill- hasbury- Isaac James- Carter<br>
banns<br>
both signed<br>
Wit- Harry James /Emily Southwell<br><br>

and on Connections here....
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =719513979


if we want to run with Minnie and her family let's open up a new thread to keep it nice and clear

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cheers jo so that is proberly the truman grove that died in 1910 is also the one in the census and the 1915 birth for george grove parents grove/james belong to these two

GROVE William JAMES Sarah 1903 Cradley, St Peter West Midlands Dudley Register Office 013/002/483


so two brothers or cousin married two sisters ?

and here is the look up for this one..... parents for William are Samuel Grove
and for Sarah James are George James

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =800546275

Pete can you add what you think to this lot on Connections
cos did you say that George b 1915 is son of this lot?

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i do it

poss marriage

GROVE James SAWYER Eliza 1866 Brierley Hill, St Michael West Midlands Dudley Register Office 210/002/329

can any one find them on 1871 census please

this is the marriage for this lot...

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =606324103

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poss marriage

JOSEPH GROVE

Father: JAMES GROVE

Spouse: MARIA HUGHES
Father: BENJAMIN

Marriage: 25 DEC 1845 St Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,

Ok last one...phew!

this one with father Benjamin I am opening up a new thread...I think he is already on the site our Benj...

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =344608014

that completes the look ups for the trueman thread

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Unless otherwise advised this topic will be re- archived

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going to try and link these two different groves to two different james ?



15 Dec 907 Halesowen
-Trueman Grove- 23- bach- bricklayer- Highfield Lane- Hasbury- James Grove- Bricklayer
-Minnie James- 23- spinster- spikemaker- springhill- hasbury- Isaac James- Carter
banns
both signed
Wit- Harry James /Emily Southwell



and


13 April 1903 St Peters Cradley
-William Grove- 21- bach- miner- Colman Hill- Samuel Grove- miner
-Sarah James- 23- spinster- Colman HIlls - George James- farm labourer
banns
both signed
Wit- Joseph James /X Maria James

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1881 Shelton Lane Hawn, Worcester

George JAMES 45 Bromsgrove, Worcester, England Lab Ironworks
Caroline JAMES 39 Cradley Heath, Stafford, England
John JAMES 19 Cradley Heath, Stafford, England Lab Brickyard
Samuel JAMES 14 Halesowen, Worcester, England Lab Brickyard
Mary E. JAMES 11 Halesowen, Worcester, England
Eusephus JAMES 8 Halesowen, Worcester, England
Joseph JAMES 6 Halesowen, Worcester, England
Sarah JAMES 1 Halesowen, Worcester, England




3 doors up

1881 Shelton Lane Hawn, Worcester

Samuel GROVE Head M Male 26 Cradley, Worcester, England Lab Spade Works
Catherine GROVE Wife M Female 23 Halesowen, Worcester, England Rivet Maker
Joseph GROVE Son Male 6 m Halesowen, Worcester, England


two more doors up


1881 Shelton Lane Hawn, Worcester

Joseph GROVE Head M Male 27 Cradley, Worcester, England Lab Ironworks
Roseannah GROVE Wife M Female 22 Cradley, Worcester, England
Alice E. GROVE Daur Female 4 Cradley, Worcester, England



anyone find these please in earlier and later census