*Completed* -Hannah Poole b 1861

[dianel]

NL, Ann Lowe and Mary Ann Poole are only 4 years out in age. I think this is still a possibility.

I think the question is whether her father was Joseph Lowe or another unknown person. I can't find a marriage for Mary Ann Poole and Joseph Lowe. Anyone?

[Northern Lass]

The only one I found was this one in 1841

1841
LOWE Joseph POOLE Mary Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/004/178

cant be that one can it?

[dianel]

Yeah, I saw that one, NL, but he would be 11 and she would be 6!
Maybe they didn't actually marry. Which is why Hannah varied between giving her father the surname Poole and Lowe.

[peterd]

can any one find a john and lucy poole and family in 1841,51 census as in 61 and 81 there next door to the lowes ?

[FarSide]

1851
56
Long lane, (New England), The Hill
John Towle 43
Lucy Towle 43
Ann Towle 18
Sarah Towle 16
Phoebe Towle 14
Thomas Towle 12
Wm Towle 10
Richard Towle 6
Martha Towle 5
Joseph Poole 3 Mo
Nailors, all b Rowley

Still looking for them on the 41

[peterd]

so could that ann in 51 be mary ann in 61 census years out by 2 ?

[linell]

1851
56
Long lane, (New England), The Hill
John Towle 43
Lucy Towle 43
Ann Towle 18
Sarah Towle 16
Phoebe Towle 14
Thomas Towle 12
Wm Towle 10
Richard Towle 6
Martha Towle 5
Joseph Poole 3 Mo
Nailors, all b Rowley

I have a Halesowen 1851 Transcription of the above which gives the spelling as Poole
On the previus page folio 206 Long Lane New England is:-
Joseph Lowe HD M 35 Nailer Halesowen
Sarah Wife 34 Nailer Halesowen
Edwin Son 13 Nailer Halesowen
George Son 6 Halesowen
Ann DA 4 Halesowen
Lucy DA 2 Halesowen
Amphlice DA 1 Month Halesowen

Wonder if they are connected? linell.

[FarSide]

1841
Cakemore
John Pool 30 - Nailor
Tuce Pool 30
Ann Poat 7
Sarrah Pool 5
Pheobe Pool 3
Thomas Pool 1
all b in c

[FarSide]

Did we need this one..
1841
Song Lane, Hill
Joseph Lowe 25 - Nailor
Sarah Lowe 23
Edwin Lowe 4
Thomas Lowe 10 Mo
all b in c

[Northern Lass]

Rite well I am lost on this!
are we saying that John and Lucy are parents of a Mary ann or Ann Poole
and that Joseph Lowe is bro to Eber with Parents...do we know them?

she is a lodger
then has his kids ie Thomas Joseph and Hannah
????

will someone explain....

and FS how do you find em!!

[peterd]

it looks like that first two might not be his though or first one, any find a marriage yet lowe/poole ? that fits ?

[dianel]

Think Joseph and Eber Lowe are brothers - parents William Lowe and Sophia - . below

1841 Blackheath
William Lowe Head 30 Nail Maker
Sophia Lowe Wife 30
Hezekiah Lowe Son 14
Joseph Lowe Son 12
William Lowe Son 10
Decimus Lowe Son 8
Elizabeth Lowe Daur 6
Maryann Lowe Dau r4
Eber Lowe Son 2
David Lowe Son 9 Mo

On previous page: (Is this William's brother?)
James Lowe 25 Nail M. Y
Leah Lowe 25 N
Shadrach Lowe 5 Y
Emma Lowe 2 N

1851 Blackheath
William Lowe Head 43 Nailer b. Rowley, Staffordshire
Sophia Lowe Wife 44 Nailer b. Rowley, Staffordshire
Joseph Lowe Son 22 Coal Miner b. Rowley, Staffordshire
William Lowe Son 20 Nailer b. Rowley, Staffordshire
David Lowe Son 18 Nailer b. Lutley (This is Decimus?)
Elizabeth Lowe Daur 16 Nailer b. Lutley
Maryann Lowe Daur 14 Nailer b. Lutley
Eber Lowe Son 12 Nailer b. Warley Wiggon
David Lowe Son 11 Nailer b. Warley Wiggon
Sophah Lowe Daur 6 b. Rowley, Staffordshire
Sarah Lowe Daur 4 b. Rowley, Staffordshire
Sarah Brooks Lodger 18 Nailer b. Cradley Heath, Staffordshire

[dianel]

1861 Black Heath
William Lowe Head 52 Nail Maker b. Rowley Regis
Sophia Lowe Wife 53 Nail Maker b. Rowley Regis
Sophia Lowe Daur 16 Nail Maker b. Rowley Regis
Sarah Lowe Daur 14 Nail Maker b. Rowley Regis
Hezekiah Taylor Grandson 6 b. Rowley Regis

On this census William and Sophia are surrounded by families of Tromans, Moles and Hadleys.

[dianel]

1871 Blakeheath, Rowley Regis
William Lawe Head 62 Nail Maker b. Rowley Regis
Sophia Lawe Wife 63 Nail Maker b. Rowley Regis
Ezekial Lawe Grandson 15 Nail Maker b. Rowley Regis

Entry immediately before is:
David Lowe Head 27 Mason Server b. Worcs., Halesowen
Louisa Lowe Wife 32 Nail Maker b. Worcs., Halesowen
William Lowe Son 10 b. Rowley Regis
David Lowe Son 5 b. Rowley Regis
Dinah Lowe Daur 2 b. Rowley Regis
Ann M Lowe Daur 10 Mo b. Rowley Regis

Entry immediately after is:
Benjamin Lowe Head 22 Nail Maker b. Rowley Regis
Hannah Lowe Wife 23 Nail Maker b. Rowley Regis
Sarah A Whittal Boarder 35 Nail Maker b. Rowley Regis

Then one entry, then an Edward & Lucy Lowe and family, then a Richard & Selena Poole and family.
Surely these others are all connected in somehow too.

[dianel]

There is this submitted marriage:

WILLIAM LOWE & SOPHIA BENSON
Marriage: 14 AUG 1826 Wombourn, Stafford, England

A bit far way for both of them, but then they married young - maybe ran away or shotgun wedding ... making up stories again