*Archived* -George Joseph Williams -Grove bible search-Mally

[mallosa]

Can we find him in 1891 and 1901?

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[dianel]

1891 Brook Road, Halesowen
George Williams Head Mar 51 Nail Maker b. Worcs., Halesowen
Phoebe Williams Wife Mar 57 b. Worcs., Halesowen
George Williams Son S 19 Labour Iron Works b. Worcs., Halesowen
Joseph G Williams Grandson 6 b. Worcs., Halesowen
Samuel Partridge Lodger S 26 Labour Iron Works b. Worcs., Halesowen

[dianel]

This Phoebe in 1901. George has died?

1901 23a Birmingham Road, Halesowen
Phoebe Williams Head Widow 59 b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Phineas Williams Son 31 Bootmaker b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Annie Williams 25 Dress Maker Own Account b. Staffs., Rowley Regis

Next dwelling at 24 are:
Isaac Williams Head 42 Shoeing Blacksmith Worker At Home b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Mary Ann Williams Wife 41 b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Lucy Williams Daur 21 Dressmaker Worker At Home b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Nelly Williams Daur 18 Tailoress Worker At Home b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Maria Williams Daur 15 Knitting Machinist - Loom Worker At Home b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Ben Williams Son 13 b. Staffs., Rowley Regis

At 44 Birmingham Road are Jesse Law and wife, Mary A.

[peterd]

di dont think that 1891 is the right one ? no annie or phineas where george in the 1881 if it is correct ? unless george snr out with some of the kids or is hannah visiting ?

as this is the 1881

1881 census

Long Lane The Hill, Worcester

Hannah SMITH Head W 67 Halesowen, Worcester, Nail Maker
Phoebe WILLIAMS Daur M 39 Halesowen, Worcester, Nail Maker
Phineas WILLIAMS Gd Son 11 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar
Annie WILLIAMS Gd Daur 5 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar

[Jimmy]

This looks like George's death reg,

Deaths Dec 1899.
Williams George, 45, Dudley, 6c, 24,

[peterd]

this is the 1881 census i think for the 1891 census you found

Birmingham Street Halesowen

George WILLIAMS 41 Howen, Worcester, nailer
Phebe WILLIAMS 45 Howen, Worcester, nailer
Sarah WILLIAMS 19 Howen, Worcester, Button Factory Hand
George WILLIAMS 10 Howen, Worcester, Scholar
Mary HODGETTS Boarder 19 Howen, Worcester, Button Factory Hand


so look like two pheobe and two george williams

[mallosa]

I'll add these later !

[dianel]

Yes, of course, you're right, Peter. Here's the 1891 with son Phineas in it:

1891 24 Birmingham Road, Halesowen
Isaac Williams Head 32 Blacksmith (Journeyman) Worker At Home b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Mary Ann Williams Wife 30 b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Lucy Williams Daur 11 Scholar b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Nelly Williams Daur 8 Scholar b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Maria Williams Daur 5 Scholar b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Benjamin Williams Son 2 b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Apparently at same address:
Phoebe Williams Head Wid 44 Rivet Maker b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Phineas Williams Son 21 B Shoe Maker (Journeyman) b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Annie Williams Daur 15 Bolt Rivet Maker b. Staffs., Rowley Regis

[mallosa]

Have added to Connections but got a bit confused on this one, could someone please check?

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[Jimmy]

The 1881 census on BBC is the wrong one, it should be,
but where is George? 1871 says he was a shoemaker.

Long Lane The Hill, Worcester

Hannah SMITH Head W 67 Halesowen, Worcester, Nail Maker.
Phoebe WILLIAMS Daur M 39 Halesowen, Worcester, Nail Maker.
Phineas WILLIAMS Gd Son 11 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar.
Annie WILLIAMS Gd Daur 5 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar.

[mallosa]

Cheer Jimmy, it was very late

[mallosa]

This looks like George's death reg,

Deaths Dec 1899.
Williams George, 45, Dudley, 6c, 24,

Mmmmm ...Phoebe was classed as a Wid in 1891

[Northern Lass]

Just had a look at that it looks good and connections looks correct now.

Have you put the marriage down for George for look up just to dble check father is phineas?
Maybe put the other kids on connections from the census for George?


Otherwise shall we archive pending look up?

[mallosa]

Deaths Dec 1881
WILLIAMS George Joseph 37 Stafford 6b 1

1881 Census has Phoebe as M but Joseph was not with the family.
Perhaps he was in hospital?

[mallosa]

Yes NL, marriage look up is already on, thanks.

Can be archived now.