*Arch * --Thomas & Mary Nock Dudley/West Bromwich

[nocky1972]

Good morning Jan, hope you have had a good weekend.

Firstly my username is nocky1972

here are my next few people : -

Wife of Thomas Nock = 1/ Mary Ann Law b: abt 1827 All Saints, West Bromwich (Married 23rd June 1845 St Martin (Pepper Box), Tipton) - her fathers name on the certificate I had was Job Law
Son of Thomas & Mary Ann = 2/ James Nock b: 16th Feb 1852 Lyndon, West Bromwich (taken from birth certificate)
Sister of James Nock = 3/ Eliza Nock b: abt 1857 West Bromwich

Thomas must have died around 1859 because Mary married again 1861 (Dudley Vol 6c Page 139)to a William Butler of West Bromwich. As Thomas was a miner i wonder if he may have died in a mining accident or of ill health due to his profession. There are quite a few Thomas Nock's listed in the IGI so finding the correct one may be difficult do you think ? I can't find Thomas Nock on the 1861 census or thereafter...

Once again your help is much appreciated

Kind regards

Simon

[Northern Lass]

Hi Simon thanks for that

Will add them to the Black Country Connections tree with your username
and then will post a link shortly

[Jimmy]

Hi Simon,

Are these the family in 1851, living in West Brom,
Thomas Nocks. abt 1824.
Mary Nocks. abt 1826.
Joseph Nocks. abt 1846.
Ann Nocks. born abt 1848.
Thomas Nocks. abt 1850.

it could be one of these,
Submitted.
Christening, 24 MAR 1824. Toll End, Tipton, Stafford,
Parents:
John Nock.
Mary.

Extracted.
THOS. NOCK.
Christening:
06 JUL 1823. Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Parents:
JAMES NOCK.
ANN.

[Northern Lass]

That looks like the family in 1851 with 3 more kids

I think that the bapt in dudley st Thomas is the correct one
and the brother Joseph I found matched James and Ann as parents...nail weigher.
This Thomas and Mary call their eldest dau Ann too.


1851 West Brom Staffs
Thomas Nock 27 h coal miner b RR
Mary Nock 25 b WB
Joseph son 5 b wb
Ann dau 3 b wb
Thomas son 8 mths b wb
William Brookes lodger 25 coalminer b west brom
Eliza brooks 23 b looks like rugby?

[nocky1972]

Hi all,
I agree - that looks like them... Will add them to my tree... will try and find them in the 1861 census

many thanks

Simon Paul Nock

[Northern Lass]

this looks like that marriage...
and it said June regis on free bmd

1861
NOCK Mary BUTLER William Tipton, St Martin (Pepper Box) Sandwell Register Office 39/9/349

3 deaths on bmsgh for a Thomas nock so could be any of them regis west bromwich if that is where it was regis?
you could always say you only want it if he is born about 1823/24
based on one of these
the regis office will normally do a sweep of 5 yrs so say 1859 2yrs either side
they are very helpful
it would be sandwell regis office
or if you think it might be dudley ie those below then again they offer I think the same
but both regis offices are very helpful

1857
NOCK Thomas West Bromwich North East Sandwell Register Office WBNE/16/217



1858
NOCK Thomas Tipton Sandwell Register Office TIP/26/333
NOCK Thomas West Bromwich South West Sandwell Register Office WBSW/16/187



1859
NOCK Thomas B Sedgley Dudley Register Office SEG/034/62
NOCK Thomas Sedgley Dudley Register Office SEG/032/497
NOCK Thomas West Bromwich North East Sandwell Register Office WBNE/18/92


and here is the link for Connections with the family on

Thomas Nock and family

I cannot see them on 1861 any of those kids
can anyone?

[Northern Lass]

Found them in 1871

William and Mary are married

1871 looks like Seagur St or Leager st???
West Brom ( north east) Staffs
William Butler h 30 miner b Wb---it is deffo 30 on the image so b 1841!!!
Mary wife 44 b Wb
James nock son in law 17 b Wb
Eliza nock dau in law 14 b Wb
John Butler son 10
Mary Ann dau 6
William son 4 b Yorks Normanton

[nocky1972]

Hello again,
just found that too - definitely them !... my tree is growing and growing... Thanks

regards
Simon

[Northern Lass]

Do you want that Butler and Nock marriage looked up Simon if so add it to the look up requests.

[nocky1972]

Hi ya,
think I will stick to the Nock line for now.. Looking forward to adding more Nock's to the tribalpages site

thanks again

Simon

[Northern Lass]

Hi ya,
think I will stick to the Nock line for now.. Looking forward to adding more Nock's to the tribalpages site

thanks again

Simon

okedoke sent you an email hope you got it ok!

[peterd]

is this william re married ?

1881 census

Abeys Yard Pontefract, York,

William BUTLER 39 Bedworth, Warwick, Coal Miner
Ann BUTLER Wife 34 Pontefract, York,
William BUTLER Son 13 Normanton, York, Scholar

[nocky1972]

Hello peterd,
I don't think it is my friend ! I have William and Mary Ann living in West Bromwich in 1881

Kind regards
Simon Paul nock

[peterd]

IS 14 yearold william with them ?

1871 looks like Seagur St or Leager st???
West Brom ( north east) Staffs
William Butler h 30 miner b Wb---it is deffo 30 on the image so b 1841!!!
Mary wife 44 b Wb
James nock son in law 17 b Wb
Eliza nock dau in law 14 b Wb
John Butler son 10
Mary Ann dau 6
William son 4 b Yorks Normanton

[nocky1972]

Hello Peterd,
interesting - will check this out....i need to establish the birth of William Butler (big age gap there)

cheers
Simon