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ARC TBC..Elizabeth Fletcher/Job Guise - Mally adding

Postby mallosa » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:50 pm

Here on BCC - https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... ver=420980

1891: (looks like) Turk? Street, Delph Kingswinford
Joh Guice 34 Head Brick Clay maker?
Elizabeth Guice 26
George L Guice 7 mths Son
(all born Kingswinford)
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Re: Elizabeth Fletcher/Job Guise

Postby mallosa » Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:37 pm

Elizabeth Fletcher's father is Samuel (a farmer)

Is this Elizabeth with her grandfather (also a farmer) ?

1881: Cemetery St, Baldwins Green, Lye, Worc
John Fletcher 74 Head Widower farmer Oldswinford, Worcestershire,
Elizabeth Fletcher 16 Granddaughter farmers servant Staffordshire
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Re: Elizabeth Fletcher/Job Guise

Postby mallosa » Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:53 pm

Looking to see if earlier census' show if John has a son Samuel....

1841: Lower Lye, Oldswinford
John Fletcher 33 Farmer
Phebe Fletcher 30
John Fletcher 9
Joseph Fletcher 7
William Fletcher 5
Mary Fletcher 3
Samuel Fletcher 1
(all born in county)

Living next door to Richard & Jemima Powell :think:
1851: Nr Porridge Hall, Lye, Worc
John Fletcher 43 Head Farmer 30 acres (not on BCC)
Phebe Fletcher 47 (42 on census) Wife
John Fletcher 19 Son
William Fletcher 15 Son
Mary Fletcher 13 Dau
Saml Fletcher 11 Son
Susannah Fletcher 9 Dau
Richard Fletcher 6 Son
Phebe Fletcher 2 Dau
(all born Lye)

next door....must be related and with another Samuel same age

William Fletcher 50 Head Nailor Stourbridge
Meriah Fletcher 48 Wife Cradley
John Fletcher 19 Son Lye
Job Fletcher 16 Son Lye
Adam Fletcher 13 Son Lye
Saml Fletcher 11 Son Lye
Thomas Fletcher 6 Son Lye
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Re: Elizabeth Fletcher/Job Guise

Postby mallosa » Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:02 am

1861: Stourbridge Road, Lye
John Fletcher 53 Head farmer of ? acres
Phebe Fletcher 53 Wife
William Fletcher 25 Son unm
Susannah Fletcher 19 Dau unm
Samuel Fletcher 21 Son unm
Richard Fletcher 16 Son
Phebe A Fletcher 12 Dau
Joseph Fletcher 6 Son

Living on one side of the above is Maria Fletcher wid with sons Job, Adam & Thomas

and on the other are Richard & Jemima Powell with their children

1871: Green Lane, Lye Worc
John Fletcher 63 Head Wid farmer of 30 acres
William Fletcher 35 Son unm farmer
Pheby Fletcher 30 Dau
Joseph Fletcher 16 Son
Mary Tibetts 5 grd dau
Elizabeth Fletcher 5 grd dau

Is this Elizabeth with her grandfather (also a farmer) ?

1881: Cemetery St, Baldwins Green, Lye, Worc
John Fletcher 74 Head Widower farmer Oldswinford, Worcestershire,
Elizabeth Fletcher 16 Granddaughter farmers servant Staffordshire


England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995
John Fletcher
Death Date: 30 Dec 1882
Death Place: Worcester, Worcestershire, England
Probate Date: 7 Feb 1883
Registry: Worcester

The Will with two Codicils of John Fletcher late of Lye Farmer was proved by Joseph Fletcher Commercial Travellor the Son and William Fiddian Auctioneer and Land Surveyor both of Stourbridge in the said County the Executors
Personal Estate £1,477 12s.6d.
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Re: Elizabeth Fletcher/Job Guise

Postby mallosa » Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:18 am

Elizabeth is with her grandfather John Fletcher in both 1871 and 1881

His son Samuel is not with him after 1861

Is this him....

1871: White Hill, Kinver, Staffs
Samuel Fletcher 30 Head Farmer of 90 acres employing 1 boy Lye
Sarah Fletcher 28 Wife Hagley, Worc
William Fletcher 3 Son Kinver
Samuel Fletcher 2 Son Kinver
Sarah S Fletcher 6 Months Dau Kinver
Ann Dolton 14 Servant
Thomas Pearkes 18 Farm Servant

With 3 children so young maybe thats why Elizabeth was living with her Grandparents?

1881: White Hill
Samuel Fletcher 41 Farmer Of 75 Acres Employing 1 Man & 1 Boy
Sarah Fletcher 38
William Fletcher 13
Sarah Fletcher 11
Mary Fletcher 7 Dau Kinver
Richard Fletcher 4 Son Kinver

Can we find a marriage for Samuel & Sarah?
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Re: Elizabeth Fletcher/Job Guise - Mally adding

Postby BC Wench » Fri Dec 08, 2017 3:18 pm

Marriage: 8 June 1863, Bromsgrove, Worcs
Samuel Fletcher, 22, Father: John Fletcher
Sarah Waldron, 21, Father: John Waldron
Can't see the actual image on Ancestry, FMP or FreeREG.

Their children:-

FLETCHER, WILLIAM WALDRON
GRO Reference: 1867 S Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 442

FLETCHER, SAMUEL WALDON
GRO Reference: 1869 M Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 464

FLETCHER, SARAH SUSANNAH WALDRON
GRO Reference: 1870 D Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 435

FLETCHER, MARY WALDRON
GRO Reference: 1873 M Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 516

FLETCHER, RICHARD WALDRON
GRO Reference: 1876 J Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 573
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Re: Elizabeth Fletcher/Job Guise - Mally adding

Postby mallosa » Sun Dec 10, 2017 12:54 am

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Re: Elizabeth Fletcher/Job Guise - Mally adding

Postby Northern Lass » Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:20 am

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Re: ARC TBC..Elizabeth Fletcher/Job Guise - Mally adding

Postby mallosa » Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:27 am

Yes please Jan
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