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Re: Elizabeth unknown abt 1830 on BCC.

Postby Northern Lass » Tue Mar 29, 2022 6:30 am

will sticky this and Grangers 14 may sort on BCC when she is around.
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Re: Elizabeth unknown abt 1830 on BCC.-

Postby grangers14 » Tue Mar 29, 2022 8:06 pm

I am not very able at the moment but I will when able! :roll:
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Re: Elizabeth unknown abt 1830 on BCC.

Postby Northern Lass » Wed Mar 30, 2022 7:11 am

Great! :thumbup:
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Re: Elizabeth unknown abt 1830 - BCC.-Grangers 14 to sort on

Postby grangers14 » Sun May 08, 2022 6:50 pm

I have been looking at this but time and health has been a problem... :roll:
I think it is the right family but I think census is wrong? :?
I will try and look this next week. :roll:
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Re: Elizabeth unknown abt 1830 - BCC.-Grangers 14 to sort on

Postby mallosa » Sun May 08, 2022 7:02 pm

Sorry to hear that! I have been looking at it Jo, but couldn't make sense of it :roll:
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Re: Elizabeth unknown abt 1830 - BCC.-Grangers 14 to sort on

Postby grangers14 » Tue May 10, 2022 6:12 pm

I think I have the problem...the census for William is wrong on BCC. Not sure on the marriage?

Selina and George Edwards are the children of George and Sarah Edwards.

The census should read on William…George and William are living in the same household 1861.
1861. Back Lane, Warley Wigon.
George Edwards, head, 24, Miner, Rowley Regis
Sarah, wife, 20, Rowley Regis
Selina, daur, 5, Warley Wigon
George, son, 1, Warley Wigon
/William, Head, 29, Miner, Rowley Regis
Elizabeth, 31, Brierley Hill

1871. Blackheath, Rowley Regis.
William Edwards, head, 39, Coal Miner, Rowley Regis
Elizabeth, wife, 43, Brierley Hill
Selina, daur, 15, Rowley Regis...............Should be niece.

1881. 75, Oldbury Road, Rowley Regis.
William Edwards, head, 50, Stone Breaker, Rowley Regis
Selina, Niece, 25, Langley
Thomas, son, 2, Rowley Regis...............Thomas son of Selina I think

EDWARDS, THOMAS. - blank.
GRO Reference: 1878 D Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 32.

Still looking...does anyone agree please?
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Re: Elizabeth unknown abt 1830 - BCC.-Grangers 14 to sort on

Postby grangers14 » Wed May 11, 2022 8:05 pm

I have changed BCC...
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =641766269

I will look as I can.
Please leave this for now here.
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Re: Elizabeth unknown abt 1830 - BCC.-Grangers 14 to sort on

Postby grangers14 » Fri May 27, 2022 8:29 pm

This may be the family before marriage for Elizabeth?
1841. Pensnett, Kingswinford.
Jonathon Oliver, 35, Coal Miner, Not born in County
Emma, 30, Not born in County
Eliza, 10, Not born in County
James, 9, Not born in County
Henry, 7, Born in County
Hannah, 5, Born in County
Ann, 2, Born in County
Jonathon, 8m,
Robert Doody? 20, Coal Miner, Not born in County
Thomas Barker, 30, Stone Miner, Not born in County
John Rigby, 25, Coal Miner, Not born in County

1851. Pensnett, Kingswinford.
Jonathon Oliver, head, 46, Coal Miner, Wellington Shropshire
Emma, wife, 40, Wellington Shropshire
Frances, daur, 16,
Rosannah, 15,
Jonathon, son, 10,
William, son, 8,
Edward, son, 6,
James, son, 4,
All others born Kingswinford

1861, Church Sreet, Kingswinford.
Jonathon Oliver, Head, 56, Coal Miner, Dawely Green
Emma, wife, 50, Lawley Bank
John Edwin, 16, son, Coal miner,
James, son, 15, Coal Miner,
Samuel, son, 9,
George, son, 7,
Emilla, daur, 5,
All others born Kingswinford

1871. Church Street, Kingswinford.
Jonathon Oliver, head, 65, Miner, Dawley
Emma, wife, 59, Wellington
James, son, 24, Shoe Maker,
Emily, daur, 15,
All others born Kingswinford



Freereg Burial.
24th May 1858. St Mark, Pensnett
Johnathon Oliver, 17, Pensnett
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Re: Elizabeth unknown abt 1830 - BCC.-Grangers 14 to sort on

Postby Jimmy » Sat May 28, 2022 1:58 pm

OLIVER, JAMES DOODY.
GRO Reference: 1846 S Quarter in STOURBRIDGE UNION Volume 18 Page 464.

Ancestry,

Jonathan Oliver.
Emma Dudy.
Record Type: Marriage.
Marriage Date: 28 Nov 1829.
Marriage Place: Wrockwardine, Shropshire.
Residence Place: Wrockwardine.
Religion: Anglican.
Page number: 152.
Reference Number: P316/A/3/5.
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Re: Elizabeth unknown abt 1830 - BCC.-Grangers 14 to sort on

Postby kdwoodie » Sat May 28, 2022 3:41 pm

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Re: Elizabeth unknown abt 1830 - BCC.-Grangers 14 to sort on

Postby kdwoodie » Sat May 28, 2022 3:55 pm

I did think Eliza could have been Elizabeth but this is on Freereg

Staffordshire
Wordsley
Holy Trinity
Parish Register
Register entry number173
Marriage date 23 Sep 1850
John JONES full age bachelor Miner Pensnett Thomas JONES Miner
Eliza OLIVER full age spinster Pensnett Jonathan OLIVER Miner
Witness 1 Richard WILD
Witness 2 Betzey COOPER
NotesThe Bride & both witnesses signed with a X
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Re: Elizabeth unknown abt 1830 - BCC.-Grangers 14 to sort on

Postby Jimmy » Sat May 28, 2022 4:18 pm

Halesowen St John the Baptist.
Marriage date 26 May 1833.
George EDWARDS. Otp. Bachelor.
Martha TAYLOR. Otp. Spinster.
Witness 1 Benjn WOODHOUSE.
Witness 2 George G FIDDIAN.
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Re: Elizabeth unknown abt 1830 - BCC.-Grangers 14 to sort on

Postby grangers14 » Sat May 28, 2022 6:19 pm

I kept going back there kdw :? They are close? So could be...just doesn't make sense?
Not sure where that marriage fits in Jimmy? I'm confused enough with this... :? :lol:
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Re: Elizabeth unknown abt 1830 - BCC.-Grangers 14 to sort on

Postby kdwoodie » Sat May 28, 2022 6:35 pm

Who are Henry and Ann Oliver?
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Re: Elizabeth unknown abt 1830 - BCC.-Grangers 14 to sort on

Postby Jimmy » Sat May 28, 2022 10:23 pm

It looks to me that William as been put as a son of George and Martha Taylor based on the 1841 census, there is no other evidence that says George is his father.
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