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Postby mjay » Thu Jul 22, 2021 1:56 pm

Clara Lacy here
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Clara Lacy
Marital Status Single
Age19 Birth Date1887
Marriage Date14 Oct 1906
Marriage PlaceSt. Leonard, Bilston,
FatherJohn Lacy
SpouseJohn Thomas Dudley
FHL Film Number1278829
Reference IDpg 233 cn 466

1911. No 71 Field St, Bradley, Coseley, Staffordshire
John Thomas Dudley, head, 26, Bundler Iron Worker Labourer
Clara Dudley, wife, 23
Annie Dudley, daur, 3
Gladys Dudley, dar, 2
Edward Dudley, son, 6 months
John Matthew Lacy, 21, Brother in law, Tinner Hollow Ware


1939
Address: 72 Field st
Residence Place: Coseley, Staffordshire, England
Occupation: Night Watchman
Line Number: 36
Schedule Number: 272
Sub Schedule Number: 1
John T Dudley 54 Night watchman 7 Feb 1885
Clara Dudley 52 2 May 1887 Unpaid Domestic Duties
Clara Lacy 19 13 Sep 1920 Metal ???
(Clara 1920) is here https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... ver=542081
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Re: Clara Lacy 1887

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Re: Clara Lacy 1887

Postby mjay » Thu Jul 22, 2021 2:26 pm

John Thomas D Simms
Registration Year 1885
Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district Dudley
Inferred County Staffordshire
Volume 6c
Page 97
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Re: Clara Lacy 1887...Mjay adding to Bcc

Postby grangers14 » Sat Jul 24, 2021 6:36 pm

Marriage Freereg
14th October 1906. St Leonard, Bilston.
John Thomas Dudley, 21, B, Ironworker, Field St Bradley, Edward Dudley, Engineer
Clara Lacy, 19, S Smith Street, John Lacy, Miner
Witnesses, Benjamin Hall, Mary Lacy
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Re: Clara Lacy 1887...Mjay adding to Bcc

Postby mjay » Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:06 am

Thanks Jo
All added
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Postby mjay » Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:45 am

1901 72 Field St
Registration District: Dudley
Sub-registration District: Sedgley
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Dudley 40 (can't read occupation)
Ann Dudley 39
John T Dudley 16
Edward Dudley 13
Matilda Dudley 11
Samuel Dudley 9
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Re: Clara Lacy 1887...Mjay adding to Bcc

Postby mjay » Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:10 pm

Possible marriage for John Thomas Dudley parents
Edward Dudley Simms
Gender: Male
Age: 23
Birth Date: abt 1861
Marriage Date: 31 Aug 1884
Marriage Place: Tipton, Staffordshire, England
Father: John Dudley Simms
Spouse: Ann Hand
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Re: Clara Lacy 1887...Mjay adding to Bcc

Postby grangers14 » Wed Jul 28, 2021 1:18 pm

mjay wrote:1901 72 Field St
Registration District: Dudley
Sub-registration District: Sedgley
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward Dudley 40 (can't read occupation)
Ann Dudley 39
John T Dudley 16
Edward Dudley 13
Matilda Dudley 11
Samuel Dudley 9



Occupation is engine driver (bedstead work?)
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Re: Clara Lacy 1887...Mjay adding to Bcc

Postby grangers14 » Wed Jul 28, 2021 3:05 pm

Marriage Freereg
31st August 1884. St Paul, Tipton.
Edward Dudley Simms, 23, B, Engineer, Tipton, John Dudley Simms, Engineer
Ann Hand, 22, S, Tipton, Thomas Hand, Coord winder
Witnesses, John Dudley Simms, Sarah Ann Carrington

1891. Daisy Street, Sedgley
Edward Dudley, head, 30, Stationary engine driver, Sedgley
Ann, wife, 29, Bilston
Edward, son, 4,
Matilda, daur, 2,
Ann, daur, 6
Ann, Mother, W, 73, ? by his sons son? Tipton

1911. 11 Field St Bradley Coseley.
Edward Dudley, head, 50, Engine Driver
Annie, wife, 49, married 27 years, 11 children, 5 living
Samuel, son, 19, Millhand
Wilfred, son, 10
All born Sedgley

SIMMS, JOHN THOMAS DUDLEY HAND
GRO Reference: 1885 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 97
SIMMS, EDWARD DUDLEY HAND
GRO Reference: 1887 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 69
SIMMS, MATILDA DUDLEY HAUD
GRO Reference: 1888 D Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 63
SIMMS, ANN DUDLEY HAND
GRO Reference: 1890 D Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 75
SIMMS, WILFRED DUDLEY HAND
GRO Reference: 1901 J Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 97

1861. Skidmore Row, Sedgley
Edward Dudley, head, 50, Engineer at Iron works
Ann, wife, 44
/John Dudley Simms, Lodger, 18, Engineer at iron works, Tipton
Mary An, wife, 20
Edward, 5 months
Others born Sedgley

1871. Boscobel Street Park Lane, Tipton
Edward Dudley, head, 60, Engineer
Ann, wife, 53,
Edward, Grandson, 10
All born Tipton

1881. Daisy Street, Sedgely.
Ann Dudley, Head, W, 63, Tipton
Edward, Grandson, 20, Engineer in Iron Works,
John, Grandson, 19, Bedstead Maker
Others born Sedgley
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Re: Clara Lacy 1887...Mjay adding to Bcc

Postby mjay » Wed Jul 28, 2021 4:23 pm

Thanks Jo
Just going through all the info to add on bcc

So is this families last name Simms or Dudley ??

Mother is definitely Ann Hand though ?

I'm confused

Oh hang on is Edward and Ann on 1861, 1871 &1881 census Grandparents to Edward dob @1861
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Re: Clara Lacy 1887...Mjay adding to Bcc

Postby grangers14 » Wed Jul 28, 2021 6:10 pm

It looks like it... :? Ann Hand as Mother.
Another divorced? I added one the other day. Unusual for divorce? :?
Looks a bit complicated mjay...

Marriage. Freereg
3rd September 1860. All Saints, Sedgley
John Dudley Simms, 19, B, Engineer, Deepfield, Edwin Dudley Simms, Engineer
Mary Ann Homer, 19, S, Deepfield, William Homer, Bucket and Basket Maker
Witnesses, John Jones, Ellen Hinton
All sign except groom

Marriage Freereg
13th July 1845. All Saints, Sedgley
Edward Dudley, Divorced, Labourer, Tipton, Edward Dudley, Labourer
Ann Simms, W, Tipton, Thomas Harcourt, Cordwainer
Witnesses, Samuel Hickinbottom, Phoebe Hickinbottom
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Re: Clara Lacy 1887...Mjay adding to Bcc

Postby grangers14 » Wed Jul 28, 2021 6:37 pm

??

1851. Hall Street, Tipton.
Edward Dudley, head, 35, Engineer, Bilston
Anne, wife, 33,
John, son, 9,
Others born Tipton

Nextdoor is
John Dudley, head, 25, Iron Roller, Sedgley
Jane, wife, 20,
John, son, 2 months?
Others born Tipton
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Re: Clara Lacy 1887...Mjay adding to Bcc

Postby mjay » Wed Jul 28, 2021 7:22 pm

grangers14 wrote:It looks like it... :? Ann Hand as Mother.
Another divorced? I added one the other day. Unusual for divorce? :?
Looks a bit complicated mjay...


It is a bit :?

I know you said to add census to head of household until individuals move out, but it's so confusing on this one I've added to each individual that I think census relates too. Just to try and make sense of it all :?
Hope that makes sense.
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Re: Clara Lacy 1887...Mjay adding to Bcc

Postby Northern Lass » Thu Jul 29, 2021 8:59 am

It is up to Jo How she runs Bcc but to add my pennyworth I do find it easier if all the census
is on the head of the household only
that is useful as you know if it comes to a stop then they may have died.
And then you follow the trail for the wife etc.

Just flows better....call me Picky! :lol:

anyway up to Jo on that one.
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Re: Clara Lacy 1887...Jo sorting

Postby grangers14 » Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:16 pm

It is better if it is head of household, makes more sense but it is a bit confusing.

I will go through it, it is no problem.
Thank you mjay.

Just flows better....call me Picky! :lol:

Ok Picky, has a ring to it better than NL :wink: :lol:
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