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Re: Taylor/Billingham heir hunting--NL adding to Bcc

Postby Northern Lass » Sat Apr 04, 2020 3:02 pm

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Re: Taylor/Billingham heir hunting--NL adding to Bcc

Postby kdwoodie » Sat Apr 04, 2020 3:07 pm

Northern Lass wrote:kdw

was this from the cemetaries info on dudley archives?
Sarah Hatton died 1928 and left money to William Taylor School Teacher and James Oswald Hinds Solicitor

B/C Number 8136
Burial Date 23/02/1928
Date of Death
Name Sarah Hatton
Age 95 Years
Denomination
Funeral Director
Service Full Burial
Cemetery Lye/Wollescote Cemetery
Section Section C
Grave 12A


The probate is on Ancestry and yes the later is from Dudley Cemetaries
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Re: Taylor/Billingham heir hunting--NL adding to Bcc

Postby Northern Lass » Sat Apr 04, 2020 3:26 pm

I think and ...my head has gone...

John Hatton here est 1800
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =564734206

may have sons John Hatton est 1830 who marries Sarah Skidmore --father is a John Hatton
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =426535491

and a Thomas est 1830 with a dau Eliza Hatton b abt 1860--- need to get that marrige checked.
1854 HATTON Thomas ROBINS Sarah 1854 Oldswinford, St Mary Dudley Register Office 003/005/36
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =794329753

and a dau Emma Hatton b 1818 father for her on marriage is John
Free reg.
2 sept 1844 St Thomas Dudley
Thomas CLARKE-of full age-bachelor-abode Netherton- Iron Roller father Joseph Clarke miner
Emma HATTON-of full age-Spinster abode Netherton father John Hatton miner
Witness1 Jeremiah ROUND
Witness2 Maria SHORE
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Re: Taylor/Billingham heir hunting--NL adding to Bcc

Postby Northern Lass » Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:01 pm

1841 Oldswinford Hayseech?
John Hatton 45 h miner y
Elizabeth Hatton 45 y
Emma Hatton 23 Y
Henry Hatton 17? can't read occup
John Hatton 12 y miner
Thomas Hatton 10 y
Maria Hatton 3

marriage John Hatton and Elizabeth Wooldridge 28 August 1814 St Leonard Clent

HATTON, MARIA WOOLDRIDGE
GRO Reference: 1838 J Quarter in STOURBRIDGE UNION Volume 18 Page 459
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Re: Taylor/Billingham heir hunting--NL adding to Bcc

Postby Northern Lass » Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:28 pm

Ok I have connected but needs more work.
have added notes.

On 1841 we have Emma - John - Thomas all sibs.
1841 Oldswinford Hayseech?
John Hatton 45 h miner y
Elizabeth Hatton 45 y
Emma Hatton 23 Y
Henry Hatton 17? can't read occup
John Hatton 12 y miner
Thomas Hatton 10 y

Maria Hatton 3
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =365165229

Sarah Skidmore has a nephew with her in 1901. she married John Hatton
1901 Stourbridge Road Lye
Sarah Hatton Head Wid 68 Living on own means Born Amblecote
Willm Taylor Nephew 14 Pupil Teacher School Born Lye

https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =553242087

I think that he is the son of Wm Taylor and Eliza Hatton
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =401571012

She is dau of Thomas Hatton
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... i=27088214

and he is son of John Hatton
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... di=6064927

and Eliza Hatton is niece of Emma Hatton on census with them in 1871
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =697620093

Emma is sister to Thomas and John...

that is what I think...
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Re: Taylor/Billingham heir hunting--NL adding to Bcc

Postby Northern Lass » Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:33 pm

need this marriage though
1854 HATTON Thomas ROBINS Sarah 1854 Oldswinford, St Mary Dudley Register Office 003/005/36

hoping father on that is a John.... :?
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Re: Taylor/Billingham heir hunting--NL adding to Bcc

Postby gardener » Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:39 pm

Northern Lass wrote:I cannot find 1891 for this family
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =380333613



Gone to Wales?

1891
Registration district: Pontypridd
Sub registration district: Eglwysilan
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4409
Folio: 72
Page Number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
William Taylor 28 labourer Worcestershire (and others)
Eliza Taylor 30
William Taylor 4
Sydney Taylor 3


TAYLOR, WILLIAM HATTON
GRO Reference: 1886 D Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 161
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Re: Taylor/Billingham heir hunting--NL adding to Bcc

Postby kdwoodie » Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:11 pm

JOHN HATTON

1841 Haygreen Lye
John Hatton 45 Miner
Elizabeth Hatton 45
Emma Hatton 23
Henry Hatton 17 Spade Maker
John Hatton 12 Miner
Thomas Hatton 10
Maria Hatton 3
All born in County

1851 Stourbridge and Halesowen Road Lye
John Hatton Head Mar 58 Clay Miner
Elizabeth Hatton Wife Mar 58 Shop Keeper (Grocery)
John Hatton Son U 21 Coal Miner
Thomas Hatton Son U 18 Spade Maker
Maria Hatton Daur 12 Scholar
All born Lye

1861 Private House Halesowen Road Lye
John Hattan Head Mar 31 Miner Coal Born Lye
Sarah Hattan Wife Mar 24 Born Lye
Joseph Cullin Boarder Unm 22 Method New Connection Minister Born Newark Nottingham

NEXT DOOR
Grocer Shop
Elizabeth Hatton Head W 67 Grocer Born Lye
Maria Hatton Daur U 22 Grocer Born Lye
NEXT DOOR
Thomas Hatton Head Widower 28 Spade Maker Born Lye
Maria Hatton Daur 5 Scholar Born Lye
John Hatton Son 3 Scholar Born Lye

1871 ?

1881 Halesowen Road Lye
John Hatton Head Mar 52 Clay Mine Agent Born Lye
Sarah Hatton Wife Mar 48 Provision Seller Born Amblecote
Eliza Hatton Niece Unm Assistant Born Lye

1891 Stourbridge Road Lye
John Hatton Head M 60 Grocer Born Lye
Sarah Hatton Wife M 58 Born Staffordshire
Eliza Hatton Serv S 21 Dom Serv Born Staffordshire

NEXT DOOR
Elizabeth Hatton Head Wid ? Living on own means Born Lye (Cant read age)
Alice L S Robins G Daur S 24 Born Lye
Priscilla Robins Daur in Law Wid 45 Living on own means Born Lye
Blanche Robins G Daur S 18 Tailoress Born Lye
Jannette M? Robins G Daur S 16 Born Lye
Flossie E Robins G Daur S 7 Born Lye

Probate
Name: John Hatton
Death Date: 10 Oct 1899
Death Place: Worcestershire, Worcester, England
Probate Date: 6 Feb 1900
Probate Registry: Worcester, England

Hatton John of Haygreen Lye near Stourbridge Worcestershire Machine Clerk Died 10 Dec 1899 Probate Worcester 6 Feb to Sarah Hatton Widow Effects £787 0s 3d

1911 for Sarah
41 Haygreen Lye
Sarah Hatton Head Widow Private means Born Amblecote near Brierley Hill Staffordshire
No Children

Probate for Sarah
Name: Sarah Hatton
Death Date: 1 Feb 1928
Death Place: Worcestershire, England
Probate Date: 19 Apr 1928
Probate Registry: Worcester

Hatton Sarah of Haygreen Lye Worcestershire widow died 18 Feb 1928 Probate Worcester 19 aPRIL 1928 TO William Taylor Schoolmaster and James Oswald Hinds Solicitor. Effects £19 2s 6d. Resworn £1264 11s.
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Re: Taylor/Billingham heir hunting--NL adding to Bcc

Postby kdwoodie » Sat Apr 04, 2020 6:20 pm

THOMAS HATTON

Name: Thomas Hatton
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 28 Aug 1831
Baptism Place: Old Swinford, Worcester, England
Father: John Hatton
Mother: Elizabeth Hatton
FHL Film Number: 350510
Reference ID: 80

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Name:
Thomas Hatton
Event Type:
Marriage
Event Date:
24 Jul 1854
Event Place:
Old Swinford, Worcestershire, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original):
Old Swinford, Worcester, England
Gender:
Male
Spouse's Name:
Sarah Robins
Spouse's Gender:
Female

Possible death for Sarah
HATTON, SARAH 24
GRO Reference: 1860 M Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 108

Free BMD Marriage ?
Marriages Dec 1861
GROVE Mary Birmingham 6d 124
HATTON Thomas Birmingham 6d 124

1861 Halesowen Road Lye
Thomas Hatton Head Widower 28 Spade Maker Born Lye
Maria Hatton Daur 5 Scholar Born Lye
John Hatton Son 3 Scholar Born Lye

1871 Bouchall Stourbridge
Thomas Hatton Head Mar 38 Spade Maker
Mary Hatton Wife Mar 38 Born Halesowen
John Hatton Son 13 Scholar
Sarah Hatton Daur 8 Scholar
Eliza Hatton Daur 4 Scholar
Thomas Hatton Son 5 Scholar
Mary J Hatton Daur 4 Scholar
All others born Lye

1881 Haygreen Lye
Thomas Hatton Head Mar 48 Spade Maker Born Haygreen
Mary Hatton Wife Mar 49 Born Haygreen
Charles T. Hatton Son 16 Bricklayers Labourer Born Haygreen
Mary J. Hatton Daur 14 Domestic Born Haygreen
Pheobe A. Hatton Daur 9 Scholar Born Oldswinford
George J. Hatton Son 6 Scholatr Born Haygreen

1891 112 Gt Lindall Street Ladywood Birmingham
Thomas Healton Head M 58 Spade Maker Retired
Mary Healton Wife M 58
Sarah Healton Daur S 28 Mantle Maker
Phoebe Healton Daur S 19 Stationery
James Healton Son S 16 Fruiterers Assistant
All Born Halesowen


Children
HATTON, MARY MARIA ROBINS
GRO Reference: 1855 D Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 162

HATTON, JOHN HENRY ROBINS
GRO Reference: 1857 D Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 189

HATTON, ELIZA ROBINS
GRO Reference: 1859 D Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 191

HATTON, SARAH GROVE
GRO Reference: 1862 S Quarter in STOURBRIDGE UNION Volume 06C Page 83

HATTON, ELIZABETH GROVE
GRO Reference: 1863 S Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 175

HATTON, CHARLES THOMAS GROVE
GRO Reference: 1865 M Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 214

HATTON, MARY JANE GROVE
GRO Reference: 1867 M Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 209

HATTON, PHOEBE ANN GROVE
GRO Reference: 1871 J Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 183

HATTON, GEORGE JAMES GROVE
GRO Reference: 1874 D Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 185
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Re: Taylor/Billingham heir hunting--NL adding to Bcc

Postby kdwoodie » Sat Apr 04, 2020 7:20 pm

SARAH ROBINS


Parents ?
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... ver=493649

Name:
Sarah Robins
Event Type:
Christening
Event Date:
6 Dec 1835
Event Place:
Old Swinford, Worcestershire, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original):
Old Swinford, Worcester, England
Gender:
Female
Father's Name:
John Robins
Mother's Name:
Elizabeth

1841 Church Row Oldswinford
John Robins 30 Joiner Born in County
Elizabeth Robins 25 Not born in County
Mary Robins 6 Not born in County
Sarah Robins 5 Not born in County
Edward Robins 4 Born in County
James Robins 2 Born in County
Thomas Robins 8 Mo Born in County
ROBINS, THOMAS GROVE
GRO Reference: 1840 D Quarter in STOURBRIDGE UNION Volume 18 Page 479

1851 Stourbridge Road
John Robbins Head Mar 41 Builder & Innkeeper Born Lye
Elizabeth Robbins Wife Mar 37
Mary Robbins Daur U 17 Dressmaker
Sarah Robbins Daur U 16 From Home Servant
Edward Robbins Son U 14 Builder
James Robbins Son 12 Scholar
Thomas Robbins Son 9 Scholar
John Robbins Son 7 Scholar
Betsey Robbins Daur 5 Scholar
William Robbins Son 2
Joseph Robbins 8 Mo
All others born Halesowen


Possible death for Sarah
HATTON, SARAH 24
GRO Reference: 1860 M Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 108

Taken from a tree on Ancestry
Transcript
On fourth January 1861 Church Row, John Robins, age 52 years, Bulider.Cause of death Cerebral Haemorrhage Certified. Informant on fifth January 1861 John Robins Present at the death, Church Row,Lye.
Detail
Certificate No. 11 issued at Stourbridge,Worcestershire
Death Certificate for John Robins

1861 Halesowen Road Lye
Elizabeth Robins Head W 46 Born Halesowen
Thomas Robins Son Un 20 Bricklayer Born Lye
John Robins Son 18 Carpenter Born Lye
William Robins Son 12 Scholar Born Lye
Joseph Robins Son 10 Scholar Born Lye
George Robins Son 4 Scholar Born Lye

1871 Holt Lane Cakemore
Edward Harper Head Wid 72 Farmer
Mary Ann Harper Daur Unm 37
Eliza Harper Daur Unm 27
James Harper Son Mar 45
Elizabeth Robins Relative crossed through looks like Sister W 58 Born Halesowen
All others born Worcestershire

Transcript
On fifteenth May 1879 High Street,Lye,Worcestershire,Elizabeth Robins,age 66 years, widow of John Robins a builder. Cause of death Aortal and Mitral disease of heart, 2 years, and cerebral embolism a few hours. Informant on 16th May 1879 John Robins, son, present at the death, High Street,Lye.
Detail
Certificate No. 75 issued at Stourbridge
Death Certificate for Elizabeth Robins
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Re: Taylor/Billingham heir hunting--NL adding to Bcc

Postby Northern Lass » Sat Apr 04, 2020 9:14 pm

Just going thru this and adding.

thanks guys...


so do you agree looks like 3 sibs Emma- Thomas - John Hatton

parents John Hatton and Elizabeth Wooldridge.
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Re: Taylor/Billingham heir hunting--NL adding to Bcc

Postby Northern Lass » Sat Apr 04, 2020 9:16 pm

Thanks RF

24 Jul 1854 St Mary Oldswinford
Thomas HATTON 21 B Spade Maker The Lye Father John Hatton Miner
Sarah ROBINS 19 S The Lye Father John Robins Builder
After Banns Both Signed
Wit; William Penn /Mary Robins
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Re: Taylor/Billingham heir hunting--NL adding to Bcc

Postby kdwoodie » Sat Apr 04, 2020 9:18 pm

WILLIAM TAYLOR

Possible ? Not sure if this is the right family only one could find with father Samuel
TAYLOR, WILLIAM SOUTHALL
GRO Reference: 1862 S Quarter in STOURBRIDGE Volume 06C Page 151

Name: Samuel Taylor
Gender: Male
Age: 19
Birth Date: 1835
Marriage Date: 8 Jun 1854
Marriage Place: St. Edmund'S, Dudley, Worcester, England
Father: William Taylor
Spouse: Mary Ann Southall
FHL Film Number: 992182
Reference ID: yr 1852-1856 p 118

1861 Oldnall
Samuel Taylor Head Mar 26 Horse Nailer
Mary A Taylor Wife Mar 27 Nailer
Thomas Taylor Son 5 Scholar
Elizabeth Taylor Daur 3 Scholar
Joseph Taylor Son 5/12

1871 High Park Cradley
Samuel Taylor Head Mar 36 Horse Nail Maker Born Lye
Mary Taylor Wife Mar 37 Horse Nail Maker Born Wollescote
Thomas Taylor Son 15 Horse Nail Maker Born Wollescote
Elizebeth Taylor Daur 12 Horse Nail Maker Born Wollescote
Joseph Taylor Son 10 Scholar Born Wollescote
William Taylor Son 8 Scholar Born Cradley
John Taylor Son 5 Scholar Born Cradley
Samuel Taylor Son 3 Scholar Born Cradley
Mary Taylor Daur 3/12 Born Cradley

1881 Oldnall
Saml. Taylor Head M 46 Labourer Born Wollescote
Mary A. Taylor Wife M 47 Born Wollescote
William Taylor Son 18 Horse Nail Maker Born Lye
John Taylor Son 15 Horse Nail Maker Born Wollescote
Saml. Taylor Son 13 Scholar Born Cradley
Mary A. Taylor Daur 10 Scholar Born Cradley
Sara Taylor Daur 8 Scholar Born Cradley
(not transcribed)

1891 Oldnall
Samuel Taylor Head M 53 Banksman in Claypit Born Lye
Mary A Taylor Wife M 54 Born Oldnall
John W Taylor Son M 24 Cart Coal Haulier Born Oldnall
Elizabeth Taylor Sons Wife M 23 Born Haygreen
Joseph Taylor 10/12 Born Oldnall


1901 Oldnall Road
Samuel Taylor Head Mar 65 General Labourer Born Lye
Mary Ann Taylor Wife Mar 66 Born Oldnall
Mary Ann Taylor Daur S 30 Monthly Sick Nurse Born Parkside

Name: Samuel Taylor
Estimated birth year: abt 1836
Registration Year: 1909
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 73
Registration district: Stourbridge
Parishes for this Registration District: Search for Stourbridge in the London Times
Inferred County: Worcestershire
Volume: 6c
Page: 72



Name: Mary Ann Taylor
Gender: Female
Marital status: Married
Age: 70
Birth Date: 1835
Death Place: Oldnall, Wollescote
Burial Date: 17 Aug 1905
Burial Place: Lye, England
Spouse: Samuel Taylor
FHL Film Number: 1470586
Reference ID: it 1 p 55
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Re: Taylor/Billingham heir hunting--NL adding to Bcc

Postby Northern Lass » Sat Apr 04, 2020 9:40 pm

ok...so we still have the query of Anne Annie Billingham

can anyone tell me about the pdfs you order from gro....are they like instant....or does it need
human intervention ...cos if so noone is there at mo...

do we think Anne is dau of Silvanious billingham
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Re: Taylor/Billingham heir hunting--NL adding to Bcc

Postby kdwoodie » Sat Apr 04, 2020 9:45 pm

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