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Re: John Oakley and wife Clara Blakemore bn abt 1862-1865

Postby Jayneh » Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:41 pm

kdwoodie wrote:Free Reg
County Staffordshire
Place Wolverhampton
Church name St John
Register type Transcript
Marriage date 26 Mar 1866
Groom forename John
Groom surname ADAMS
Groom age 36
Groom occupationTimber merchant
Groom abode Dudley Road
Bride forename Emma
Bride surname BLAKEMORE
Bride age 28
Bride condition widow
Bride abode Dudley Road
Groom father forename John
Groom father surname ADAMS
Groom father occupation Wheelwright, deceased
Transcribed by Michael Clarke
File line number 1866

I cannot find these on census


Thanks for the marriage details which could be the same Emma/ Emily onto her 3rd marriage - its getting complicated.
This could be them on the 1871 census:
1871 Census West Bromwich Staffordshire
John Adams, Head, 39, Bricklayer labourer, Coschill Warwickshire England
Emma Adams, Wife, 38, West Bromwich Staffordshire England
William Adams, Son, 14, West Bromwich Staffordshire England
John Adams, Son, 12, Pelsall Staffordshire England
Thomas Adams, Son, 10, Pelsall Staffordshire England
George Adams, Son, 1, West Bromwich Staffordshire England

A possibility but I can't find a GRO 1870/1 birth for a George Adams with a mother maiden name Burgwin or Blakemore, and John is recorded as a bricklayer not Timber merchant so perhaps its not them.
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Re: John Oakley and wife Clara Blakemore bn abt 1862-1865

Postby Jayneh » Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:59 pm

Ah, Its unlikely to be the Emma/Emily we are looking for in that Adams family because here they are in the 1861 census and we think Emma/Emily was living with Thomas Harris in 1861

1861 Census Pensall Staffordshire
John Adams, Head, 27, Bicknell Warwickshire England
Emma Adams, Wife, 26, West Bromwich Staffordshire England
William Adams, Son, 4, West Bromwich Staffordshire England
John Adams, Son, 9/12, West Bromwich Staffordshire England
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Re: John Oakley and wife Clara Blakemore bn abt 1862-1865

Postby Jayneh » Thu Dec 05, 2019 8:13 pm

kdwoodie wrote:1851 Dudley Street Bilston
Thomas Tomes 39
Jane Tomes 37
George Tomes 14
Harriett Tomes 8
Sarah Ann Tomes 6
Martha Tomes 4
Thomas Tomes 2
Joseph Tomes 2 Mo
Mary Tomes 2 Mo
Caroline Challinor 19
Ann Burgwin 23 Servant Born Bilston
Emily Burgwin 15 Servant Born Bilston

Free Reg
County Staffordshire
Place Bilston
Church name St Leonard
Register type Transcript
Baptism date 07 Dec 1828
Person forename Anne
Father forename John
Mother forename Sarah
Father surname BURGWIN
Father occupation Miner
Transcribed by Michael Clarke
File line number 2721


This looks like a marriage for Ann Burgwin
FreeReg
All Saints Segdley 6 Dec 1852
George Hoare, 24, B, Miner, Ettingshall, father Richard Hoare, Miner, and
Ann Burgwin, 24, S, Ettingshall, father John Burgwin, Miner,
Witnesses Samuel and Amelia Smith.

1861 Census Willenhall Staffordshire
George Hoar, Head, 32, Miner Stone, Adderley Shropshire
Anne Hoar, Wife, 33, Bilston Staffordshire
George Hoar, Son, 1, Portobello Staffordshire
Joseph Dimmock, Lodger 26, Oakengates Shropshire
Samuel Dodd, Lodger, 26, Denbeigh Wales
Henry Woolley, Lodger, 19, Portobello Staffordshire
John Bennett, Lodger, 19, Portobello Staffordshire
John Hussian, Lodger, 50, Ireland
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Re: John Oakley and wife Clara Blakemore bn abt 1862-1865

Postby Jayneh » Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:29 am

grangers14 wrote:Emma and Emily often do get muddled up!

Freereg
14th April 1863. All Saints, Sedgley.
Josiah Blakemore, 52, W, Boiler maker, Spring Vale, Josiah Blakemore, Blacksmith
Emma Harris, 32, W, Spring Vale, John Burgwin, Labourer
Witnesses, J E Lewis, Sarah Burgwin


Many thanks for putting Blakemores, Burgwins and Oakleys onto BCC.
I'm looking through our posts again to see whether there is more to do on this thread and noticed that the brides father has been added incorrectly as George Burgwin instead of John Burgwin, please could you amend to John, thanks :-)

https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... ver=481640

I'll see whether any DNA matches throw any light on some of my queries on this family, though I'm still waiting for Ancestry's 'ThruLines' to take effect.
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Re: John Oakley and wife Clara Blakemore bn abt 1862-1865

Postby grangers14 » Fri Dec 20, 2019 8:36 pm

I have! :oops:
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Re: John Oakley and wife Clara Blakemore bn abt 1862-1865

Postby Jayneh » Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:50 am

Thanks for the tweak :-)

Jayneh wrote:It seems the name Blakeman was used rather than Blakemore between 1841 and 1851, or is it a different family?


I've found more evidence that both BLAKEMAN and BLAKEMORE were used for the same family:

https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... ver=481786

Marriage FreeReg: 26 Sep 1799 Josiah Blakeman, B, Sedgley, and Phebe Wedge, S Sedgley. Witnesses Sarah Dunn and Thomas Newton, at All Saints, Sedgley, Staffordshire.

Baptisms of their children on FreeReg:
26 Mar 1802 Mary Ann, Father Josiah BLAKEMAN and mother Phebe, St Leonard Bilston, Staffordshire
01 Jan 1807 John, Father Josiah BLAKEMORE and mother Phebe, St Leonard , Bilston, Staffordshire
23 Oct 1808 Nancy, Father Josiah BLAKEMORE and mother Phebe, St Leonard, Bilston, Staffordshire
1 Sep 1811 Josiah, Father Josiah BLAKEMORE and mother Phebe, St Leonard, Bilston, Staffordshire
16 Aug 1814, Henry, Father Josiah BLAKEMAN, blacksmith and mother Phebe, St Leonard , Bilston, Staffordshire
05 Nov 1816, Edward, Father Josiah BLAKEMORE, blacksmith and mother Phebe, St Leonard, Bilston, Staffordshire

The son Josiah is the one already on BCC.
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Re: John Oakley and wife Clara Blakemore bn abt 1862-1865

Postby Jayneh » Mon Dec 23, 2019 11:19 am

Jayneh wrote:
Marriage FreeReg: 26 Sep 1799 Josiah Blakeman, B, Sedgley, and Phebe Wedge, S Sedgley. Witnesses Sarah Dunn and Thomas Newton, at All Saints, Sedgley, Staffordshire.



BLAKEMAN, PHEBE , died aged 76 , GRO Reference: 1846 D Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON & SEISDON Volume 17 Page 280

I've more supporting evidence for Phebe Wedge - Ancestry Thurlines indicates 16(!) DNA matches for my friend linking to her to them through 4 possible siblings of Phebe Wedge and father Daniel Wedge.
Although some of these links may be wrong, on balance it seems good supporting evidence.

England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Baptism 28 Feb 1773
Albrighton Near Wolverhampton,Shropshire,England
Phebe Wedge
father Daniel Wedge
mother Anne

Shropshire, England, Extracted Church of England Parish Records, 1538-1812
Baptism 28 Feb 1773
Phebe Wedge
Father Daniel Wedge
Mother Anne Wedge

Phebe's mother appears to be Anne Nickolds / Nichols
England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
01 Mar 1763
Albrighton Near Wolverhampton,Shropshire,England
Daniel Wedge
Anne Nickolds

On Ancestry there is also a record for Daniel Wedge and Ann Nichols in a 'Millennium file' - I've not noticed this type of source before:
Original data: Heritage Consulting. The Millennium File. Salt Lake City, UT, USA: Heritage Consulting.
Created by the Institute of Family Research to track the records of its clients and the results of its professional research.
One of the things the Millennium File focuses on is linking to European nobility and royalty.

Name Daniel Wedge
Gender Male
Christening Date 25 Nov 1721
Christening Place Pattingham, Staffs, England
Death Date abt 1801
Burial Date 25 Sep 1801
Burial Place Albrighton By Wolverhampton, Shrops, England
Marriage Date 1 Mar 1763
Marriage Place Albrighton By Wolverhampton, Shrops, England
Father James Wedge
Mother Mary
Spouse Ann Nichols
Children Martha Wedge
Spouse Father James Nichols
Spouse Mother Mary Sharrett

I could list the other likely children of Daniel WEDGE but that could be done another time on another thread.
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Re: John Oakley and wife Clara Blakemore bn abt 1862-1865

Postby grangers14 » Fri Jan 24, 2020 10:05 pm

I have got lost how you are doing on this Jayneh?
I know I have been looking for some, male side, but not got any further?
Has it gone to your friend yet?
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Re: John Oakley and wife Clara Blakemore bn abt 1862-1865

Postby Jayneh » Sat Jan 25, 2020 2:24 pm

Hi, I've not made progress on this since detailing the information about the Wedge family which could be put on BCC if there is time.
The tree I was working on has gone to my friend who is planning to look over it with her brother, then I might get involved with it again, I'll see how they get on.
In the meantime this could be archived.
Thanks very much for your help.
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Re: John Oakley and wife Clara Blakemore bn abt 1862-1865

Postby grangers14 » Sat Jan 25, 2020 9:15 pm

I will add that.
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Postby grangers14 » Tue Feb 18, 2020 10:43 pm

Children added but not certain on others...archive now?
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =412314128
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