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"ComplJoseph Baker born 1817 Brierley Hill...mumbles sorting

PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:02 am
by mumbles
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =317072781
Jan posted he married Hannah Unknown but children registered as mother Hale
and I found Freereg marriage :
St. Peter Wolverhampton 1/11/1837
Joseph Baker 20 Miner Dudley Road father Joseph Baker Miner
Hannah Hale 20 Dudley Road father John Hale Miner
Witnesses :- John Biddulph & Sarah Pitt
Jan also posted possible 2nd marriage to a Matilda Marston but occupations of Joseph and His father do not add up as Butcher as against Miner.
I found son John born 1857 with mother Hale so is it possible Hannah did not die until after 1857 and he married a Matilda after that and before 1861 Census ?
Daughter Matilda born 1855 Brierley Hill cannot find on GRO

Re: Joseph Baker born 1817 Brierley Hill

PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 4:39 pm
by Jimmy
1871. Normanton, Yorkshire.
Ulysses Crandall 29.
Elizth Crandall 20.
Joseph Baker 54. Widow. Lodger. miner. Staffordshire.
Sarah Baker 20. Lodger. miner. Staffordshire. Isaiah on image.
John Baker 14. Lodger. miner. Staffordshire.
George Rimahaw 28.
John Clarke 21.

1871. Wrights Lane, Rowley Regis
John Owen 32.
Sarah Owen 29.
Ann E Owen 5.
Florena Owen 1.
Matilda Baker 54. Vistor. Rowley Regis.

1881. Church Bridge High Field Colliery, Oldbury.
Joseph Baker 64. Coal miner. Rowley Regis.
Matilda Baker 63. Coal miner. Rowley Regis.

Re: Joseph Baker born 1817 Brierley Hill

PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 4:40 pm
by Jimmy
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Rowley Regis St Giles.
Marriage date 27 May 1878.
Joseph BAKER. 61. widower. Miner. Groom abode Brades. Joseph BAKER. Miner.
Matilda BAKER. 60. widow. Brades. John ADAMS. Rivet maker.
Witness isaiah MORETON.
Witness Emma MORTON.
Notes The bride, groom & both witnesses signed with X.
Transcribed by Alan Harward.
File line number 35.

Re: Joseph Baker born 1817 Brierley Hill

PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:06 pm
by mumbles
Thanks Jimmy,
So does it mean Joseph and Matilda did not marry until 1878 ? or is it a different Matilda ?

Re: Joseph Baker born 1817 Brierley Hill

PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 8:16 pm
by Jimmy
I'm not sure, his father is right but her father is John Hale not John Adams.

Re: Joseph Baker born 1817 Brierley Hill

PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:32 am
by Northern Lass
Are you still working on this
If so I can sticky

Re: Joseph Baker born 1817 Brierley Hill

PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:14 am
by mumbles
Still working on but trying to clear this and two others on forum