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Postby sp1 » Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:53 pm

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Postby sp1 » Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:59 pm

I think John was bapt just as John (no middle name) 28 September 1834, Brierley Hill, son of Jeremiah & Phoebe Thompson.

Jeremiah (Brettell) Thompson appears in the census in Brierley Hill from 1841-61 and was a Glass Cutter as per son Johns marriage.

I am sure he is the one bapt 28 Dec 1880, Brierley Hill, Jeremiah Brettell Thompson, son of Samuel Thompson & Sarah.
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Postby sp1 » Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:09 pm

Jeremiah Brettell Thompson was bapt 28 Dec 1800, Brierley Hill, son of Samuel Thompson & Sarah.

Samuel Thompson & Sarah Brettell married 5 Oct 1788, Clent.

Jeremiah Thompson & Phoebe Skidmore married 21 September 1823, Clent.
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Postby sp1 » Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:15 pm

I’m doing this from my mobile so I’ll stop here for now until I can put computer on, as I suspect I have a lot more given the Skidmore connection - I already have 10 children for Jeremiah & Phoebe and marriages for at least 5 of them!
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Postby sp1 » Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:01 pm

Apologies for the delay in posting all of this!

Jeremiah Brettell Thompson buried 28 Sept 1866, Brierley Hill.
His wife Phoebe bapt 24 July 1805, Brierley Hill, dau of Henry Skidmore (1771-1849) & Mary Hammonds (b 1775) - Henry & Mary married 24 Feb 1794, Old Swinford. Henry Skidmore is on BCC Here:
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... ver=454123

And Here!!
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... ver=454123
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Postby sp1 » Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:17 pm

Children of Jeremiah Brettell Thompson & Phoebe Skidmore (all born/ bapt Brierley Hill):

Sarah Ann, 1824, married to Joseph Brown, 2 Apr 1850, Brierley Hill
Mary, 1825
Thomas, 1826
Celia, 1828, married to William Rollason, 29 Oct 1861, Brierley Hill (this William is a recently found connection to my direct Rollason line - needs another post!)
David, 1830
Rowland/ Roland, 1832, married Matilda Higgs (she connects to Higgs already on BCC) 6 May 1855, Brierley Hill
John (Brettle) Thompson, 1834
Emma, 1836, married John Valentine, 8 Sept 1863, Brierley Hill. NB the marriage entry says 'Henry' Valentine. This is a mistake - he is definitely JOHN, as later census and GRO index for their children proves. John Valentine born 29 July 1839, Rainford, Lancashire, died 1907, Prescot, Lancashire.
Ann Maria, Born 16 July 1838, Brierley Hill, married Thomas Guest, 22 March 1864, Brierley Hill.
James, 1841
Jeremiah, 1843, died 1844
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Postby sp1 » Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:25 pm

For the spouses of some of the children I have some further info) children for most of them, and in some cases the lines back:

Matilda Higgs (wife of Rowland Thompson) bapt 2 Oct 1836, Brierley Hill, dau of James Higgs (b 1804) and Eliza/ Elizabeth Pearsall (m 17 Jul 1829), Kingswinford. James Higgs was bapt 5 Aug 1804, Brierley Hill, and buried there 7 Nov 1872. His parents were David Higgs/ Patience Aston on BCC here:
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... ver=454123

I think Eliza/ Elizabeth Pearsall was bapt 25 Dec 1808, Brierley Hill, dau of William Pearsall, and Nancy/ Ann Pearson (born abt 1771, died 1850 and buried 2 Oct 1850, Brierley Hill.

I think Ann Pearsall -b 'abt 1795' on BCC here:
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... ver=454123
is another daughter of William Pearsall and Nancy/ Ann Pearson - bapt 16 Apr 1797 at Brierley Hill, as 'Nancy' Pearsall.

William Pearsall & Nancy/ Ann Pearson m 12 June 1791, Kingswinford
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Postby sp1 » Fri Feb 22, 2019 4:46 pm

Samuel Thompson (husband of Phoebe Brettell) ie the father of Jeremiah Brettell Thompson, is, I think, the one buried 12 Feb 1843, Brierley Hill - age at burial would give him a birthdate of abt 1767. This Samuel was with his son Jeremiah in 1841 Census.

Samuel Thompson and Sarah (Brettell) had another son, also called Jeremiah (no middle name) bapt 17 July 1796, buried 24 May 1797, Brierley Hill. I have no other children for them.
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Postby grangers14 » Sat Jun 29, 2019 5:14 pm

1841. Crabtree Lane, 7, Dwellings, Kingswinford
Jeremiah Thompson, 35, Glass Worker,
Phebe, 30,
Sarah, 15,
Mary, 15,
Thomas, 14, Roller,
Celia, 12,
Rowland, 9,
John, 7,
Emma, 4,
Ann, 2,
James, 8 m
/Samuel Thompson, 70, Ind
All born County.

1851. Brierley Hill, Kingswinford.
Jeremiah Thompson, head, 50, Glass Cutter,
Pheoba, wife, 45,
Mary, daur, 26, Dress Maker
Thomas, son, 24, IronRoller,
Celia, daur, 23, School Mistress,
Rowland, son, 18, Glass cutter,
John, son, 16, Pupil Teacher,
Emma, daur, 14, ?
Ann M. daur, 12,
James, son, 10
All born Kingswinford.

1861. South Street, Kingswinford.
Jeremiah Thompson, head, 60, Glass Cutter,
Phoebe, wife, 55,
Mary, daur, 35, Dressmaker,
Thomas, son, 33, Glass Cutter,
Celia, daur, 31,
John, son, 25, Clerk,
Emma, daur, 23,
James, son, 20, Glass Cutter
All born Kingswinford

There is also a birth and death date for,
Jerh, Thompson, Baptism 17th July 1796, death date, 24th May 1797. Parents Saml and Sarah Thompson.

Jeremiah Brettle Thompson, Baptism, 28th December 1800, Brierley Hill, parents, Samuel and Sarah Thompson, Brierley Hill
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Postby grangers14 » Sun Jun 30, 2019 5:52 pm

sp1 wrote:Children of Jeremiah Brettell Thompson & Phoebe Skidmore (all born/ bapt Brierley Hill):

Sarah Ann, 1824, married to Joseph Brown, 2 Apr 1850, Brierley Hill


That marriage is to Joseph Bourne...
Marriage. Freereg
2nd April 1850. St Michael, Brierley Hill.
Joseph Bourne, FA, B, Organist, Brettle Lane, Joseph Bourne
Sarah Ann Thompson, FA, S, Brierley Hill, Jeremiah Thompson
By License.
Witnesses, Celia Thompson, Thomas Thompson, Jeremiah Thompson, Mary Bourne.

1851. Brettle Lane, Amblecote.
Joseph Bourne, head, 28, Glass cutter employing 9 hands and teacher of music on the pianoand organist at Brierley Hill Church, Brettle Lane
Sarah A, wife, 27, Brierley Hill

1861. Dennis, Amblecote.
Joseph Bourne, head, 38, Master Glass Cutter, employing 15 men, 4 boys
Clara, daur, 8,
Horace, son, 7,
Henrietta, daur, 5,
Ann M Thompson, visitor, 22, Brierley Hill
Jane Eardley, servant, 15, House Servant
All others born Brierley Hill

1871. Glass Works. Brettle Lane, Amblecote.
Joseph Bourne, head, 48, Glass Cutter,
Horace, son, 17, Glass cutter,
Henrietta, daur, 15,
Elizabeth Bowler? servant, 12, Domestic servant, Wall Heath
All others born Brettle Lane
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Postby grangers14 » Sun Jun 30, 2019 7:33 pm

sp1 wrote:Children of Jeremiah Brettell Thompson & Phoebe Skidmore (all born/ bapt Brierley Hill):


Celia, 1828, married to William Rollason, 29 Oct 1861, Brierley Hill (this William is a recently found connection to my direct Rollason line - needs another post!)

William possibly on BCC here...will have to look tomorrow.
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =690565796

1871. 17, Moor Street, Kingswinford.
Pheobe Thompson, Head, W, 65,
Mary, daur, 43, Dress Maker
Both born Kingswinford (Brierley Hill crossed out)

1871. 19 Moor Street, Kingswinford.
William Rollinson, head, 45, Engine Fitter,
Celia, wife, 42,
Emma, daur, 5
All Born Kingswinford (Brierley Hill crossed out)

1881. 17, Moor Street, Mary Thompson, head, 55,
Brierley Hill.

1881. 19 Moor Street, Kingswinford.
William Rollinson, head, 55, Engine Mechanic,
Celia, wife, 52,
Emma, daur, 15,
All born Brierley Hill

Marriage. Freereg.
29th October 1861. St Michael, Brierley Hill.
William Rollinson, 35, B, Engineer, Brierley Hill, Mark Rollinson, Engineer
Celia Thompson, 33, S, Brierley Hill, Jeremiah Thompson, Glass Cutter,
By License.
Witnesses, Jeremiah Thompson, Emma Thompson
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Postby sp1 » Mon Jul 08, 2019 1:38 am

grangers14 wrote:
sp1 wrote:Children of Jeremiah Brettell Thompson & Phoebe Skidmore (all born/ bapt Brierley Hill):


Celia, 1828, married to William Rollason, 29 Oct 1861, Brierley Hill (this William is a recently found connection to my direct Rollason line - needs another post!)

William possibly on BCC here...will have to look tomorrow.
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =690565796

1871. 17, Moor Street, Kingswinford.
Pheobe Thompson, Head, W, 65,
Mary, daur, 43, Dress Maker
Both born Kingswinford (Brierley Hill crossed out)

1871. 19 Moor Street, Kingswinford.
William Rollinson, head, 45, Engine Fitter,
Celia, wife, 42,
Emma, daur, 5
All Born Kingswinford (Brierley Hill crossed out)

1881. 17, Moor Street, Mary Thompson, head, 55,
Brierley Hill.

1881. 19 Moor Street, Kingswinford.
William Rollinson, head, 55, Engine Mechanic,
Celia, wife, 52,
Emma, daur, 15,
All born Brierley Hill

Marriage. Freereg.
29th October 1861. St Michael, Brierley Hill.
William Rollinson, 35, B, Engineer, Brierley Hill, Mark Rollinson, Engineer
Celia Thompson, 33, S, Brierley Hill, Jeremiah Thompson, Glass Cutter,
By License.
Witnesses, Jeremiah Thompson, Emma Thompson


Jo:
Yes, I think its that William Rollason/ Mark Rollason line.

I have the following:
William Rollason bapt 20 Feb 1825, Brierley Hill, son of Mark Rollason & Elizabeth.
Mark Rollason & Elizabeth Pitt married 3 June 1810, Halesowen.
Mark Rollason bapt 3 June 1787, Walsall, son of Mark Rollason & Phoebe. He is, as you pointed out, already on BCC. He died 1859 and was buried Kingswinford.

I haven't found a marriage for Mark & Phoebe but I think this Mark was bapt 4 Dec 1757, Tipton, son of William Rollason & Catherine (nee Dudley). Note that Mark Rollason born 1787 calls his eldest son Dudley - the only Dudley Rollasons I have found have ALL been descendants of William & Catherine.

William & Catherine are on BCC here:
https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... ver=465175
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Postby grangers14 » Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:33 pm

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Postby sp1 » Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:42 pm

I’m having a look Jo, but please bear with me as I’m working nights at the moment
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Postby grangers14 » Wed Jul 17, 2019 3:03 pm

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