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Evan Evans c1861/2

Postby peterd » Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:17 am

not sure on this line after Evan who is his father two born Wolverhampton on in 1861 one in 1862

EVANS, EVAN    FOWLER  
GRO Reference: 1861  S Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON  Volume 06B  Page 406
EVANS, EVAN    WALKER  
GRO Reference: 1862  M Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON  Volume 06B  Page 434


this is how i think the DNA connects to me and a Emily evans


poss marriage
Marriages Jun 1889
EVANS Evan Wolverhampton 6b 829
Harriman Lucy Ann Wolverhampton 6b 829



1891 census wolverhampton

Evan Evans 29 Head boot finisher
Lucy Ann Evans 26 Wife
Eunice Evans 5/12 Daughter
Lillian Maud Harriman 11 Niece bilston
rest born wolverhampton



1911, 1 Burleigh Road, Wolverhampton

Evan Evans 48 Fruiterer shopkeeper
Lucy Ann Evans 46 married 21 years, kids 6 born, 5 living
Eunice Evans 20 Teacher
Evan Evans 14 Telegraph Messenger student
Charlie Evans 12
Kathleen Evans 7
George Llewellyn Evans 10/12
all born wolverhampton


noel death

Name: Noel Evans
Rank: Fg Off
Death Age: 31
Birth Year: abt 1914
Death Date: 17 Jan 1945
Military Base: North Coates, Lincs
Service Number: 179138
Unit: 254 Squadron
Command: Coastal Cmnd
Ship: Beaufighter Tfx
Occupation: Nav
Casualty: Killed in action
Residence Place: Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
Burial Place: Wieringerwaard General Cemetery, Netherlands
Notes: Killed in Either Beaufighter Ne465 Or Nv187 and Crashed Near Den Helde

Additional Info Son of Evan and Lucy Evans, of Wolverhampton; husband of Alice Maud Evans, of Wolverhampton.


Marriages Mar 1938
Evans Noel Gough Wolverhampton 6b 838
Gough Alice M Evans Wolverhampton 6b 838

and the birth

Births Sep 1940
Evans Edward R Gougle Wolverhampton 6b 1464

le mis transcribed for the h


reply from Emily, (Edward is Emily gdad)

"Hello Peter!
Thanks for the message. Im new here, not sure how to use this app yet.
My grandparents are Ted and Lilian Evans. Teds actual name is Edward Roger Evans, from Wolverhampton. Lilian from London."



so the question is if this is Evan marraige who is his parents and how do we link in ive seen a tree on with David as father but not sure on that and is the evans the connection? as mine are dudley

poss marriage
Marriages Jun 1889
EVANS Evan Wolverhampton 6b 829
Harriman Lucy Ann Wolverhampton 6b 829
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Re: Evan Evans c1861/2

Postby peterd » Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:28 am

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Re: Evan Evans c1861/2

Postby kdwoodie » Tue Feb 13, 2024 8:44 am

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Staffordshire
Wolverhampton
St Mary
Parish Register
Register entry number 340
Marriage date 21 Apr 1889
Evan EVANS full age bachelor Finisher 43 Stafford St David EVANS Finisher
Lucy Ann HARRIMAN full age spinster 40 Duke St David HARRIMAN (deceased)
Witness1 Richard Henry CLAY
Witness2 Charlotte SWEENY

EVANS, NOEL HARRIMAN
GRO Reference: 1914 M Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 1076
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Re: Evan Evans c1861/2

Postby peterd » Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:28 pm

trying to locate a david evans to a walker or fowler marriage

got this

Marriages Sep 1852
Chandler Joseph Marylebone 1a 778
EVANS David Marylebone 1a 778
Myhill Amelia Ann Marylebone 1a 778
WALKER Ann Marylebone 1a 778

found this ?

Name Evan Evans
Gender Male
Christening Aug 11 1861
St. Mary's, Wolverhampton, Stafford, England
Residence Wolverhampton, Stafford, England
Father David Evans
Mother Elizth.


their is a evan evans with his step farter in manchester on a canal boat 1871 that fits mother betty? but according to a family tree his father died 1890 stafford st wolverhampton?
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Re: Evan Evans c1861/2

Postby kdwoodie » Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:40 pm

All census show Elizabeth as mother, I cannot find a marriage for David Evans and Elizabeth. There first child was Born London
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Re: Evan Evans c1861/2

Postby kdwoodie » Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:06 pm

Staffordshire
Wolverhampton
Merridale Cemetery
Other Transcript
Burial date 12 Mar 1890
Burial person forename David
Burial person surname EVANS
Person age 72y
Burial person abode Stafford Street
Notes Parish: St. Mary. Occupation: Shoemaker. Grave: 2205. Reg. No.: G3/37159
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Re: Evan Evans c1861/2

Postby peterd » Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:06 pm

cheers KD the mystery deepens their is a welsh census 1871 but it has evan evans born wales
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Re: Evan Evans c1861/2

Postby kdwoodie » Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:02 pm

Found it
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Northamptonshire, England, Church of England Marriages, 1754-1912
St Giles Northampton
21 Oct 1839
David Evans Full Age Bachelor Shoemaker Spring Gardens David Evans Maltster?
Elizabeth Fowler Full age Spinster Wellingboro Road John Fowler Shoemaker
Wit 1 John Fowler
Wit 2 Rich'd Teaman or Feaman ?
David marked X Elizabeth signed

1851 Stafford Street Wolverhampton
David Evans 35 Head Mar Shoemaker Born Hayden Norfolk
Mary Evans 22 Wife Mar Born London
Elizabeth Evans 10 Daughter Scholar Born London
James Evans 8 Son James Son Born Wolverhampton
Alice Evans 4 Daughter Scholar Born Wolverhampton
John Evans 1 Son Born Wolverhampton

1861 33 Stafford Street Wolverhampton
David Evans 44 Head Mar Shoemaker Born Hayden Norfolk
Elizth Evans 39 Wife Mar Born ? Wales
Jane Evans 18 Daughter
Alice Evans 14 Daughter Scholar n
John Evans 12 Son Scholar
David Evans 6 Son Scholar
Florence Evans 4 Daughter Scholar
James William Evans 1 Son
Joseph Smith 9 Visitor Scholar
Others Born Wolverhampton

1871 44 Stafford Street Wolverhampton
David Evans 55 Head Mar Shoemaker Born ? Wales
Elizabeth Evans 49 Wife Mar Born Hayden Norfolk
David Jno Evans 16 Son S Shoemaker
Florence Evans 14 Daughter Scholar
James W Evans 12 Son Scholar
Evan Evans 10 Son Scholar
Randal Evans 7 Son Scholar
Rose Evans 5 Daughter Scholar
Others Born Wolverhampton

1881 43 Stafford St Wolverhampton
David Evans 65 Head Mar Shoemaker Born Wales
Elizabeth Evans 59 Wife Mar Born Norfolk
David Evans 26 Son Unm Shoemaker
Randal Evans 17 Son Unm Shoemaker
Rose Evans 15 Daughter Unm Dressmaker
Richard Evans 10 Son Scholar
Florence Harns 24 Mar
David Harns 5 Grandchild
Others Born Wolverhampton

David died 1890

1891 43 Stafford Street Wolverhampton
Elizabeth Evans 69 Head Widow Green Grocer Born Hayden Norfolk
Randle Evans 29 Son S Boot Finisher Born Wolverhampton
Richard H Clay 20 Grandson S Boot Finisher Born Wolverhampton
Selina Ederington 15 Servant S Domestic Servant Born Wolverhampton

Staffordshire
Wolverhampton
Merridale Cemetery
Other Transcript
Burial date 20 Apr 1899
Burial person forename Elizabeth
Burial person surname EVANS
Person age 73y
Burial person abode Stafford Street
Notes Parish: St. Mary. Widow. Grave: 2205. Reg. No.: G4/06226

EVANS, ELIZABETH FOWLER
GRO Reference: 1841 M Quarter in EAST LONDON UNION Volume 02 Page 214
Staffordshire
Wolverhampton
St Peter
Parish Register
Baptism date 26 Mar 1844
Person forename Elizabeth Evans
Person sex F
Father forename David
Mother forename Elizabeth
Father surname EVANS
Person abode Fender Row
Father occupation Cordwainer


EVANS, JANE FOWLER
GRO Reference: 1843 J Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON AND SEISDON Volume 17 Page 337
Staffordshire
Wolverhampton
St Peter
Parish Register
Baptism date 6 May 1843
Person forename Jane
Person sex F
Father forename David
Mother forename Elizabeth
Father surname EVANS
Person abode Fender Row
Father occupation Cordwainer

EVANS, MARY ANN FOWLER
GRO Reference: 1845 J Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON AND SEISDON Volume 17 Page 381
Staffordshire
Wolverhampton
St Peter
Parish Register
Baptism date 14 Jun 1845
Person forename Mary Ann
Person sex F
Father forename David
Mother forename Elizabeth
Father surname EVANS
Person abode Johns Street
Father occupation Cordwainer
Not on census and cant find a death

EVANS, ALICE FOWLER
GRO Reference: 1847 S Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON & SEISDON Volume 17 Page 337
Staffordshire
Wolverhampton
St Peter
Parish Register
Baptism date 14 Jul 1847
Person forename Alice
Person sex dau of
Father forename David
Mother forename Elizabeth
Father surname EVANS
Person abode Stafford Street

EVANS, JOHN FOWLER
GRO Reference: 1849 S Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON & SEISDON Volume 17 Page 366
Wolverhampton
St Mary
Parish Register
Baptism date 25 Nov 1849
Person forename John
Person sex M
Father forename David
Mother forename Elizabeth
Father surname EVANS
Person abode Stafford Street
Father occupation Cordwainer
Notes John ??, Joseph Smith, Jane Evans
Father occupation Cordwainer

EVANS, MARY ANN FOWLER
GRO Reference: 1852 J Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 371
Staffordshire
Wolverhampton
St Mary
Parish Register
Baptism date 30 May 1852
Person forename Mary Ann
Person sex F
Father forename David
Mother forename Elizabeth
Father surname EVANS
Person abode Stafford Street
Father occupation Shoemaker
Notes Mary Ann Tucker, Ann Grimes, John Evans
Burial
Staffordshire
Wolverhampton
Merridale Cemetery
Other Transcript
Burial date 04 Mar 1855
Burial person forename Mary Ann
Relationship dau of
Male relative forename David
Burial person surname EVANS
Person age 2y9m
Burial person abode Stafford Street
Notes Parish: St. Peter. Occupation: Shoemaker. Grave: 9066b. Inflammation on the lungs. Reg. No.: G1/04740

EVANS, DAVID FOWLER
GRO Reference: 1854 D Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 341
Staffordshire
Wolverhampton
St Mary
Parish Register
Baptism date 07 Jan 1855
Person forename David
Person sex M
Father forename David
Mother forename Elizabeth
Father surname EVANS
Person abode Stafford Street
Father occupation Cordwainer
Notes Joseph, James , Jane Smith

EVANS, FLORENCE FOWLER
GRO Reference: 1857 M Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 396

EVANS, JAMES WILLIAM FOWLER
GRO Reference: 1859 D Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 417
Staffordshire
Wolverhampton
St Mary
Parish Register
Baptism date 11 Aug 1861
Person forename James William
Person sex M
Father forename David
Mother forename Elizabeth
Father surname EVANS
Person abode Stafford Street
Father occupation Bootmaker
Notes Evan Higgins, Thomas Ash, Jane Evans


EVANS, EVAN FOWLER
GRO Reference: 1861 S Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 406
Staffordshire
Wolverhampton
St Mary
Parish Register
Baptism date 11 Aug 1861
Person forename Evan
Person sex M
Father forename David
Mother forename Elizabeth
Father surname EVANS
Person abode Stafford Street
Father occupation Bootmaker
Notes Evan Higgins, Thomas Ash, Jane Evans

EVANS, RANDLE FOWLER
GRO Reference: 1863 D Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 392
Staffordshire
Wolverhampton
St Mary
Parish Register
Baptism date 22 Nov 1863
Person forename Randle
Person sex M
Father forename David
Mother forename Elizabeth
Father surname EVANS
Person abode Mitre Fold
Father occupation Cordwainer
Notes Isaac Gibson, James , Anna Wilding

EVANS, ROSE FO...
GRO Reference: 1866 M Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 523
Wolverhampton
St Mary
Parish Register
Baptism date 01 Apr 1866
Person forename Rose
Person sex F
Father forename David
Mother forename Elizabeth
Father surname EVANS
Person abode Deanery Row
Father occupation Shoemaker
Notes Jane , Henry Clive, Alice Evans
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Re: Evan Evans c1861/2

Postby kdwoodie » Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:15 pm

Name Evan Evans
Death Date 14 Apr 1923
Cemetery Merridale Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place Wolverhampton, Metropolitan Borough of Wolverhampton, West Midlands, England
Has Bio? N
Spouse
Lucy Ann Evans
Children
David Evans
Evan Evans
URL
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/200 ... evan-evans

Name Evan Evans
Death Date 14 Apr 1923
Death Place Wolverhampton, West Midlands, England
Probate Date 24 Oct 1923
Probate Registry London, England
EVANS Evan of 7 Owen Road Wolverhampton died 14 April 1923 art The General Hospital Wolverhampton Administration London 24 Oct 1923 to Lucy Ann Evans widow. Effects £606 18s 10d

Name Lucy A Evans
Death Age 87
Birth Date abt 1865
Registration Date Apr 1952 [May 1952] [Jun 1952]
Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun
Registration district Wolverhampton
Inferred County Staffordshire
Volume 9b
Page 799

Name Lucy Ann Evans
Death Date 5 May 1952
Death Place Wolverhampton
Probate Date 30 Jun 1952
Probate Registry Birmingham, England
EVANS Lucy Ann of 136 Lea Road Wolverhampton widow died 5 May 1952 Administration Birmingham 30 June 1952 to Charlie Evans greengrocer. Effects £271 6s 2d
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Re: Evan Evans c1861/2

Postby peterd » Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:58 pm

WOW you halve haven't been busy so the welsh connection is it right or wrong has it seem to switch between him and his wife on the census?
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Re: Evan Evans c1861/2

Postby peterd » Tue Feb 13, 2024 8:33 pm

found this on eliabeth c1841

Name Elizabeth King (born Evans)
Residence St Pancras, Middlesex, England

1841 Birth Based on the 1851 Census and also her Australian Death Record which gives her Age as 69 years old- which means a Birth year of 1841. However her Christening was in 1844 and the 1861 Census is 1843.

Mar 3 1841 9 Horn Court, Aldergate, East London, London, England
Baptism Mar 26 1844 St Peter's, Wolverhampton, Stafford, England
Christening Entry confirms David's Occupation as a Cordwainer and that the Family are living at Fender Row.
Mar 26 1844 St Peter's Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England

Residence Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England
1851

Residence Relationship: Servant, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England
1861

Marriage Marriage to: Edward Stanford King
Oct 1872 St George Hanover Square, London
Marriage Marriage to: Edward Stanford King
Dec 1 1872 St Gabriel Pimlico, Hanover Square, London, England

Death Elizabeth's Age is given as being 69 which differs from her 1844 Birth year (1841). In this Entry, her Mother's Maiden Name is given as Flower rather than Fowler. David Evans is confirmed as her Father. Thank you to Wendy Ross for her Research.

June 6 1910 Victoria, Australia
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Re: Evan Evans c1861/2

Postby peterd » Tue Feb 13, 2024 9:05 pm

KD what does the notes mean ?

EVANS, EVAN FOWLER
GRO Reference: 1861 S Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 406
Staffordshire
Wolverhampton
St Mary
Parish Register
Baptism date 11 Aug 1861
Person forename Evan
Person sex M
Father forename David
Mother forename Elizabeth
Father surname EVANS
Person abode Stafford Street
Father occupation Bootmaker
Notes Evan Higgins, Thomas Ash, Jane Evans
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Re: Evan Evans c1861/2

Postby peterd » Tue Feb 13, 2024 9:44 pm

County Staffordshire
Place Wolverhampton, St Mary

Baptism date 28 May 1871
Person forename Richard Henry
Person sex ?
Father forename Henry
Mother forename Jane
Father surname CLAY
Person abode Stafford Street
Father occupation Japanner
File line number 647


Marriages Dec 1865
Clay Henry Penkridge 6b 739
Evans Jane Penkridge 6b 739



think this is Florence marriage

Marriages Jun 1875
EVANS Florence Wolverhampton 6b 702
HARRIS William Wolverhampton 6b 702


County Staffordshire
Place Wolverhampton, St Mary
Register type (Links to more information) Parish Register
Register entry number 3953
Baptism date 23 Apr 1876
Person forename David
Person sex ?
Father forename William
Mother forename Florence
Father surname HARRIS
Person abode 43 Stafford Street
Father occupation Shoe maker
Transcribed by Pat Galloway
File line number 1847
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Re: Evan Evans c1861/2

Postby peterd » Tue Feb 13, 2024 10:18 pm

rose marriage

County Staffordshire
Place Wolverhampton, Queen Street Independent
Register type Parish Register
Marriage date 29 May 1887
Groom forename Thomas
Groom surname EDWARDS
Groom age 26
Groom condition bachelor
Groom occupation Wheelwright
Groom abode Littles Lane Wolverhampton
Bride forename Rose
Bride surname EVANS
Bride age 21
Bride condition spinster
Bride abode Stafford St. Wolverhampton
Groom father forename Thomas
Groom father surname EDWARDS
Bride father forename David
Bride father surname EVANS
Transcribed by Jonathan Maxfield
File line number 77
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Re: Evan Evans c1861/2

Postby peterd » Tue Feb 13, 2024 10:25 pm

david marriage

County Staffordshire
Place (Links to more information) Wolverhampton, St George
Register type (Links to more information) Parish Register
Register entry number 430
Marriage date 21 May 1881
Groom forename David
Groom surname EVANS
Groom age 26
Groom condition bachelor
Groom occupation Boot riveter
Groom abode Wharf Street
Bride forename Eunice
Bride surname MORGAN
Bride age 22
Bride condition spinster
Bride abode Commercial Road
Groom father forename David
Groom father surname EVANS
Groom father occupation Boot finisher
Bride father forename Robert
Bride father surname MORGAN
Bride father occupation Miner
Witness1 Randle EVANS
Witness2 Miriam ROBINSON
Transcribed by Barb Jones
File line number 432
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