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ARC....Ann unknown abt 1846 0n BCC,-

Postby Jimmy » Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:46 am

Ann Unknown abt 1846 on BCC.

https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... ver=520819

Births Mar 1866.
Hadley Selina. Dudley. 6c. 19. not on GRO.

HADLEY, WILLIAM HENRY GORTON.
GRO Reference: 1865 S Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 108.

HADLEY, JOSEPH GORTON.
GRO Reference: 1868 S Quarter in BURTON UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 351.

HADLEY, MARY ANN GORTON.
GRO Reference: 1871 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 147.

HADLEY, JOHN GORTON.
GRO Reference: 1872 S Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 152.

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1863.
GORDON Ann. ADLEY John. 1863. Lower Gornal, St James. Dudley Register Office. 215/001/390.

Lower Gornal
Marriage date 14 Dec 1863.
John HADLEY. 20. bachelor. Miner. Kingswinford. John HADLEY. miner.
Ann GORDON. 19. spinster. Kingswinford. Joseph GORDON. occupation Fitter.
Witness 1 William COOK.
Witness 2 Arabella NEW.
Notes Groom, Bride & both Witnesses sign X. Grooms surname spelled Adley in register but the surname is Hadley in 1871 Census - Dudley.
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Re: Ann unknown abt 1846 0n BCC,

Postby Jimmy » Wed Jan 13, 2021 12:20 pm

1871. 15 Waterloo Street, Dudley.
Joseph Garton 56. Widow. Labourer.
Lendance Garton 20. Prudence on image.
Richard Garton 18.
Alice Garton 14.
Louisa Gorton 12.

All born Dudley.

1861. Waterloo Street, Dudley.
Joseph Gorton 42. Fitter, labourer.
Mary Gorton 37.
David Gorton 20.
Ann Gorton 16.
Charles Gorton 14.
Prudence Gorton 12.
Richard Gorton 9.
Alice Gorton 7.
Louisa Gorton 3.

All born Dudley.

1851. Eve Hill, Dudley.
Joseph Gorton 32. Cooper.
Mary Gorton 28.
Davied Gorton 10.
Lelinah Gorton 8.
Ann Gorton 5.
Charles Gorton 2.

All born Dudley.

1841. Dudley.
Joseph Gorton 25. Cooper.
Mary Gorton 20.
Sarah Gorton 1.
David Gorton 2 Mo.
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Re: Ann unknown abt 1846 0n BCC,

Postby Jimmy » Wed Jan 13, 2021 12:33 pm

GORTON, DAVID SMITH.
GRO Reference: 1841 J Quarter in DUDLEY UNION Volume 18 Page 262

GORTON, ANN SMITH.
GRO Reference: 1846 M Quarter in DUDLEY UNION Volume 18 Page 278.


GORTON, PRUDENCE SMITH.
GRO Reference: 1851 D Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 18 Page 246.

Dudley St Thomas.
Marriage date 23 Apr 1838.
Joseph GARTON. full age. bachelor. Cooper. Fisher Street, Dudley. David GARTON. Fender maker.
Mary SMITH. minor. spinster. Fisher Street, Dudley. Edward SMITH. Miner.
Witness 1 Thomas WILLIAMS.
Witness 2 Esther HINTON.
Notes By Banns-Groom & witness 2 signed. Bride & witness 1 marked X.
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Re: Ann unknown abt 1846 0n BCC,- Can anyone add this to Bcc

Postby mallosa » Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:04 pm

added all that Jimmy

https://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/t ... ver=520819


Could this be Mary Smith, did her mother Harriet (unknown) marry Edward Smith?

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Re: Arc tbc......Ann unknown abt 1846 0n BCC,-

Postby Northern Lass » Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:21 am

I think it is ....there is a marriage I will add in. and connect with a note
Free Reg. Harriet Dingley to edward smith
will put link on when done
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Re: Arc tbc......Ann unknown abt 1846 0n BCC,-

Postby Northern Lass » Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:49 am

Something isnt right...so is the connection I have made good or bad
Edward Smith marriage to Harriet Dingley and kids
mary smith
Elizabeth Smith
Ann Smith

if I could find some baptisms that would be great....anyone?

the problem is Mary smith is on 1841 with husband Joseph Gorton and mother Harriet so ...here..

Mary Smith dau of Harriet and Edward is on the census here
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1841: Village, Rowley Regis
Harriott Swlko 50 [Harriott Smith]
Elizabeth Swlko 15 [Elizabeth Smith]
Mary Smith Swlko 21 [Mary Smith] Nailer
Joseph Swlko 1 [Joseph Smith] Who are his parents?
Ann Smith 17 Nailer
(all born in County)

and here
1841 Census: Dudley
Joseph Gorton 25. Cooper.
Mary Gorton 20.
Sarah Gorton 1.
David Gorton 2 Mo.

think I better disconnect what I have done if can't be proved...

help pls.
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Re: Help pls.....Ann unknown abt 1846 0n BCC,-

Postby Jimmy » Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:59 am

SMITH, JOSEPH SMITH.
GRO Reference: 1840 J Quarter in DUDLEY UNION Volume 18 Page 303.

West Midlands Birth indexes for the years: 1840.
SMITH Joseph 1840 Rowley Regis Sandwell Register Office RR/3/104.

Rowley Regis St Giles.
Burial date 28 Sep 1842.
Burial person forename Joseph.
Burial person surname SMITH.
Person age 2.
Burial person abode Village.
Notes Fever.
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Re: Help pls.....Ann unknown abt 1846 0n BCC,-

Postby Northern Lass » Thu Jan 21, 2021 12:07 pm

Can you find any baptisms for Elizabeth mary or ann with parents Harriet and edward Jimmy?
I can't do that igi thing anymore and too many on free reg.
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Re: Help pls.....Ann unknown abt 1846 0n BCC,-

Postby Jimmy » Thu Jan 21, 2021 12:24 pm

Northern Lass wrote:Can you find any baptisms for Elizabeth mary or ann with parents Harriet and edward Jimmy?
I can't do that igi thing anymore and too many on free reg.


I can't see anything on FreeReg or Familysearch.
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Re: Help pls.....Ann unknown abt 1846 0n BCC,-

Postby Jimmy » Thu Jan 21, 2021 12:38 pm

According to this Harriett wasn't married,

1851 : Village, Rowley Regis.
William Bowater, Head , 26 , Coal Miner.
Elizabeth Bowater, Wife, 24, Nailer.
William, Bowater, Son, 5, Scholar.
Sarah, Bowater, Daughter, 2, Scholar Rowley Staffordshire.
Joseph Bowater, Son, 11 Months.
Phillie, Bowater, Daughter, 6, Scholar.
Harriet Smith, Inmate, Unmarried, 53, Nailer.
All Born in Rowley Regis.
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Re: Help pls.....Ann unknown abt 1846 0n BCC,-

Postby Northern Lass » Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:43 pm

Ok so we have 2 marys
this one with mother Harriet...harriet is unmarried
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =282623497

and then the other mary has father Edward and this mary marries joseph gorton
https://www.tribalpages.com/tribe/brows ... =810321575

so Harriett prob didnt marry Edward and was unmarried in 1851

Edward Smith father of Mary who marries Joseph Gorton may have married a Harriett Dingley
is that right?
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Re: Arc tbc....Ann unknown abt 1846 0n BCC,-

Postby Jimmy » Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:35 pm

Dudley St Thomas.
Baptism date 23 Jun 1822.
Mary SMITH.
Father Edward SMITH. Dudley. Miner.
Mother Christiana.

Dudley St Thomas.
Marriage date 17 Sep 1815.
Edward SMITH. Dudley. bachelor.
Christiana STACY. Dudley.
Bride condition spinster
Witness 1 Samuel PASKIN.
Witness2 William HODGETTS.
Notes By Banns-Bride Groom & witness (2) marked X Witness (1) signed.
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Re: Arc tbc....Ann unknown abt 1846 0n BCC,-

Postby Jimmy » Thu Jan 21, 2021 4:13 pm

Mary's brother.

Dudley St Thomas.
Baptism date 26 Mar 1826.
William SMITH.
Father Edward SMITH. Dudley. Miner.
Mother Christian
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Re: Arc tbc....Ann unknown abt 1846 0n BCC,-

Postby Jimmy » Thu Jan 21, 2021 4:16 pm

Full 1851 census, with Mary's mother and brother.

1851. Eve Hill, Dudley.
Joseph Gorton 32. cooper.
Mary Gorton 28.
Davied Gorton 10.
Lelinah Gorton 8.
Ann Gorton 5.
Charles Gorton 2.
Christiana Hinton 54. widow. lodger. Derbyshire.
William Smith 25. lodger.
Thomas Hinton 20. lodger.
Richard Bloxsom 31. lodger. Butcher. Warwickshire.
Prudence Bloxsom 30. lodger. Dudley.
Elizabeth Bloxsom 8. lodger.
Sarah Bloxsom 6. lodger. Worcester.
Ann Bloxsom 4. lodger. Worcester.
Custiana Bloxsom 1. lodger.

Tipton St Martin.
Marriage date 21 Jun 1830.
William HINTON. bachelor. Tipton.
Christiana SMITH. widow. Tipton.
Witness 1 John HOLLAND.
Witness 2 Thomas SHORTHOUSE.
Notes Bride signs X.
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Re: Arc tbc....Ann unknown abt 1846 0n BCC,-

Postby Jimmy » Thu Jan 21, 2021 4:59 pm

Dudley St Thomas.
Baptism date 02 Apr 1820
Prudence SMITH.
Father Edward SMITH. Dudley. Miner.
Mother Christiana.

on marriage cert it gives Prudence's father as William Smith.

Ancestry, image available,

Richard Bloxham. 32. Bachelor. Butcher. Richard Bloxham. Brick maker.
Prudence Smith. 32. Spinster. William Smith. Shoemaker.
Witnesses Joseph and Mary Gorton.
Marriage Date: 24 Mar 1852.
Marriage Place: Birmingham, St Martin, Warwickshire.
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