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Re: Ernest Harold H Shaw

Postby grangers14 » Sat Mar 21, 2020 7:48 pm

I have disconnected Ernest from the family...
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Re: Ernest Harold H Shaw

Postby rockyfowler » Sat Mar 21, 2020 10:17 pm

Dudley St Augustine Holly Hall Baptisms

1895
1588 23 Jan Sophia daughter of William & Emily LILLEY Low Town Miner Born 30 May 1894
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Re: Ernest Harold H Shaw

Postby grangers14 » Sun Mar 22, 2020 6:16 pm

kdwoodie wrote:Been looking at this possibility

Births Jun 1928
Shaw Mary E Dukes Birmingham S. 6d 284

Births Sep 1934
Shaw Phyllis Dukes Birmingham 6d 709

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1922
SHAW Ernest DUKES Ethel M 1922 Dudley, St Andrew Dudley Register Office 205/015/289

1911 19 Hadley's Fold, Darby End, Netherton, Dudley, Worcestershire
Mark Dukes Head 40 Married Iron Moulder Born Hadleys Fold
Ellen Dukes Wife 40 Married Nail Maker Born Netherton
Wilfred Dukes Son 17 Single Bricklayer Born Netherton
John Dukes Son 14 Office Clerk Born Netherton
May Dukes Daur 12 School Born Netherton (Deaf and Dumb from 3 years of age )
William A Dukes Son 8 School BORN Netherton

DUKES, ETHEL MAY NOCK
GRO Reference: 1898 D Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 97

Possible Death
Deaths Sep 1934
Shaw May E 35 Birmingham 6d 430
Did she die in child birth ?

Possible Death for Sophia
Deaths Dec 1961
SHAW Sophia 67 Rowley R. 9b 268

It's a pity you can't see the bottom of Headstone photo i think it has the death for Daisy



Where does this fit in Kaye? Lost on this bit. :?
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Re: Ernest Harold H Shaw

Postby grangers14 » Sun Mar 22, 2020 6:19 pm

BC Wench wrote:I found this.

1939 Register

????Births Jun 1928
Shaw Mary E Tromans Stourbridge 6c 16

Marriage: 1948 Dudley Register Office - Ref No: DRO/11A/112
Alfred C Fryer & Mary E Shaw


I have the birth for Mary on order...
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Re: Ernest Harold H Shaw

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Re: Ernest Harold H Shaw...Jo sorting

Postby kdwoodie » Sun Mar 22, 2020 8:07 pm

rockyfowler wrote:That Brummie family (Deaf Ernest) are a red herring did deaf people makes stoves? nothing to do with the dudley family buried in Dudley :idea: Just a thought :roll:
What stops deaf people making Stoves ?

In 1939 there is Mary E Shaw born 1928 who has the mothers maiden name Dukes

The only marriage i could find was for Ernest and Ethel May Dukes in 1922 (First marriage of Ernest as he was a widower on his marriage to Phyllis Lilley )

The second child was Phyllis, record is officially closed in 1939.

My thinking is that Ethel died during childbirth as they are both registered Sept 1934 in Birmingham.

Could do with this marriage being looked up
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1922
SHAW Ernest DUKES Ethel M 1922 Dudley, St Andrew Dudley Register Office 205/015/289

I have searched and searched and cannot find an Ernest H Shaw born abt 1897 with father Ernest, i do think that Ernest with father Samuel is correct and that the marriage cert to Phyllis Lilley could be a mistake. My opinion.

The only birth registered for Ernest Harold Shaw in 1897 is with MMN Peters as i posted originally.

It's a pity you can't see the bottom of Headstone photo i think it has the death for Daisy. It looks like only the top half of the headstone is visible
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Re: Ernest Harold H Shaw...Jo sorting

Postby rockyfowler » Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:49 pm

23 Dec 1922
Ernest SHAW 25 B Polisher Handsworth Father Samuel Shaw Stoker
Ethel May DUKES 24 S 10 Brewery St Father Mark Dukes Care Taker
Wit; Mark Dukes / Annie Jarvis

Time for an old timer to hang up his genealogy boots? I was so wrong even insulting a deaf stove polisher :oops:
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Re: Ernest Harold H Shaw...Jo sorting

Postby kdwoodie » Mon Mar 23, 2020 7:02 am

Thank you rocky, please don't hang up your boots.

It just all seems to make sense to me but I'm odd anyway.
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