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Re: John Nock b 13 Jan 1853 West Bromwich

Postby Jimmy » Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:08 am

NOCK, JOHN blank.
GRO Reference: 1853 M Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 06B Page 532.
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Re: John Nock b 13 Jan 1853 West Bromwich

Postby Jimmy » Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:24 am

Death,
WHEATLEY, JOHN age 52.
GRO Reference: 1846 S Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 18 Page 442.

Wednesbury St Bartholomew.
Burial date 22 Aug 1846.
John WHEATLEY. 52. West Bromwich.
Notes Killed in a coal pit.
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Re: John Nock b 13 Jan 1853 West Bromwich

Postby Jimmy » Fri Jan 15, 2021 2:53 pm

Possible for John Nock born 1853, no father on marriage.

1881. Clayfield Rd, Doncaster.
David Plant 25. West Bromwich.
Hannah Plant 24. West Bromwich.
John Nock 29. Lodger. Coal miner. West Bromwich.
Sarah Nock 24. Nuneaton, Warwickshire.
Mary Ann Nock 5. West Bromwich.
Charles Nock 3. Newtown, Staffs.
Clara Nock 2. Denaby, Yorkshire.
Elizabeth Nock 3 months. Mexbro, Yorkshire.

NOCK, MARY ANN WRIGHT.
GRO Reference: 1875 M Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 06B Page 843.

NOCK, CHARLES WRIGHT.
GRO Reference: 1876 D Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 06B Page 793.

NOX, ELIZABETH WHITE.
GRO Reference: 1881 M Quarter in DONCASTER IN THE COUNTIES OF YORK AND NOTTINGHAM Volume 09C Page 702.

Tipton St Martin.
Marriage date 02 Jun 1873.
John NOCK. 20. bachelor. Miner. Dudley Port. No father listed.
Sarah WRIGHT. 19. spinster. Dudley Port. Charles WRIGHT. Blacksmith.
Witness 1 Joseph MILLS.
Witness 2 Sarah HICKMAN.
Notes Groom's father's name and occupation not given. All parties sign by mark.
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Re: John Nock b 13 Jan 1853 West Bromwich

Postby Northern Lass » Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:47 pm

What is the occup of David plant?

and do we have him on the 1891 to find the kids and his wifes maiden name pls

Think he might be on bcc
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Re: John Nock b 13 Jan 1853 West Bromwich

Postby Jimmy » Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:14 pm

David Plant is a Coal miner.

Wednesbury St John.
Marriage date 24 Mar 1878.
David PLANT. 21. bachelor. Miner. Wednesbury. David PLANT. Miner.
Hannah HOWL. 20. spinster. Wednesbury. Joseph HOWL. Moulder.
Witness 1 Samuel WINDOWS.
Witness 2 Elizabeth Charlotte WINDOWS.
Notes Groom Signed with X.
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Re: John Nock b 13 Jan 1853 West Bromwich

Postby Jimmy » Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:25 pm

1891. 7 Blacks Row, Darfield, Yorkshire.
David Plant 33. coal miner. Swan Village, Staffs.
Hannah Plant 33. Great Bridge, Staffs.
Joseph Plant 12. Swan Village, Staffs.
John J Plant 5. Wombwell, Yorkshire.
Sarah A Plant 3. Darfield, Yorkshire.
Thomas H Plant 1. Darfield, Yorkshire.

PLANT, SARAH ANN HOWL.
GRO Reference: 1888 M Quarter in BARNSLEY UNION Volume 09C Page 242.

PLANT, THOMAS HENRY HOWL.
GRO Reference: 1890 S Quarter in BARNSLEY UNION Volume 09C Page 221.
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Re: John Nock b 13 Jan 1853 West Bromwich

Postby SharonA » Sat Jan 16, 2021 12:48 pm

Thank you Northern lass and Jimmy for your wealth of information. I can't believe how much information you've gathered in such a short space of time. I am so grateful for your help. Sorry I haven't got back sooner but I was looking up info on John's children/grandchildren.

At the moment I'm working through the information you have given me and linking it with my info so I'll get back to you later today with an update.

Please can you guide me on how I upload the certificates for you to look at
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Re: John Nock b 13 Jan 1853 West Bromwich

Postby peterd » Sat Jan 16, 2021 2:52 pm

SharonA wrote:Thank you Northern lass and Jimmy for your wealth of information. I can't believe how much information you've gathered in such a short space of time. I am so grateful for your help. Sorry I haven't got back sooner but I was looking up info on John's children/grandchildren.

At the moment I'm working through the information you have given me and linking it with my info so I'll get back to you later today with an update.

Please can you guide me on how I upload the certificates for you to look at
Many thanks


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Re: John Nock b 13 Jan 1853 West Bromwich

Postby SharonA » Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:20 pm

Thank you I will have a go
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Re: John Nock b 13 Jan 1853 West Bromwich

Postby SharonA » Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:58 pm

These are the marriage and birth certificates I have for John Nock, more information to follow. Thank you for all your help so far!
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Re: John Nock b 13 Jan 1853 West Bromwich

Postby SharonA » Sat Jan 16, 2021 8:47 pm

Info I have so far for John Nock:

History given by John's granddaughter: John born West Bromwich, mother Mary, father unknown, wife Sarah. Certificates (posted) support this.

I have found John and his family on the following census's

1881 Mexborough-lodger with David Plant
1891 Denaby
1901 Rotherham
1911 Brackenhill, Wakefield

Died 1938 Ackworth 85 years

1871 spouse Sarah Wright Nuneaton with parents-no sign of John

Mother Mary
1851 West Bromwich Servant
1854 marries George Wheatley
1861 onwards Mary is with George and their family no record of John.

No record of John living with his Grandfather William Nock or living with marriage witnesses that I can find.

I believe that he may have been in an orphanage or workhouse. Are these records available to view?

Thank you for your help so far :)
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Re: John Nock b 13 Jan 1853 West Bromwich

Postby Northern Lass » Sun Jan 17, 2021 7:59 am

Jimmy wrote:Possible for John Nock born 1853, no father on marriage.

1881. Clayfield Rd, Doncaster.
David Plant 25. West Bromwich.
Hannah Plant 24. West Bromwich.
John Nock 29. Lodger. Coal miner. West Bromwich.
Sarah Nock 24. Nuneaton, Warwickshire.
Mary Ann Nock 5. West Bromwich.
Charles Nock 3. Newtown, Staffs.
Clara Nock 2. Denaby, Yorkshire.
Elizabeth Nock 3 months. Mexbro, Yorkshire.

NOCK, MARY ANN WRIGHT.
GRO Reference: 1875 M Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 06B Page 843.

NOCK, CHARLES WRIGHT.
GRO Reference: 1876 D Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 06B Page 793.

NOX, ELIZABETH WHITE.
GRO Reference: 1881 M Quarter in DONCASTER IN THE COUNTIES OF YORK AND NOTTINGHAM Volume 09C Page 702.

Tipton St Martin.
Marriage date 02 Jun 1873.
John NOCK. 20. bachelor. Miner. Dudley Port. No father listed.
Sarah WRIGHT. 19. spinster. Dudley Port. Charles WRIGHT. Blacksmith.
Witness 1 Joseph MILLS.
Witness 2 Sarah HICKMAN.
Notes Groom's father's name and occupation not given. All parties sign by mark.


So this is the right JOhn Nock
Just the query is still where is he in 1861 and 1871
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Re: John Nock b 13 Jan 1853 West Bromwich

Postby SharonA » Sun Jan 17, 2021 9:10 am

This is the right John Nock however from his birth in 1853 until his marriage in 1873 I cannot find him. He doesn't appear. on the 1861 and 1871 census
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Re: John Nock b 13 Jan 1853 West Bromwich

Postby Jimmy » Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:02 pm

Jimmy wrote:David Plant is a Coal miner.

Wednesbury St John.
Marriage date 24 Mar 1878.
David PLANT. 21. bachelor. Miner. Wednesbury. David PLANT. Miner.
Hannah HOWL. 20. spinster. Wednesbury. Joseph HOWL. Moulder.
Witness 1 Samuel WINDOWS.
Witness 2 Elizabeth Charlotte WINDOWS.
Notes Groom Signed with X.


I have found a connection for David Plant on BCC.

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Re: John Nock b 13 Jan 1853 West Bromwich

Postby Northern Lass » Wed Jan 20, 2021 9:00 am

SharonA wrote:This is the right John Nock however from his birth in 1853 until his marriage in 1873 I cannot find him. He doesn't appear. on the 1861 and 1871 census


Think we are stuck on this one will move to brickwalls.
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